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September 01, 2023, 04:44:02 PM
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Power doesn't corrupt. The corruption is there long before the power. The reason we don't see the corruption when there is little or no power is, people without power are humbled by their weakness. So, they often don't act on what little power that might fall to them.

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If a corrupt man is given power,there is no way that he wouldn't display his corrupt habit. If power is given to someone,the way he operates without power remains the same,and some can hide their corrupt habit to deceive people but it can't be hidden for long. If you see a man that is in power and is corrupt,this means that he has been corrupt ever since the beginning before he came into power.

Let's take for example of the corrupt politicians that do everything in their power to make sure that they win elections by rigging it or even kill people for power. In my country,I will say that corruption leads to power and not power leads to corruption,because we hear big lies before elections and we see how the votes are sold out to a candidate that has paid for it and at the end the wrong candidate that is not the people's choice will be put into power.  Meaning a corrupt leader that used money to rig election, and he will continue with his corrupt act in power.

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September 01, 2023, 06:00:49 PM
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Power doesn't corrupt. The corruption is there long before the power. The reason we don't see the corruption when there is little or no power is, people without power are humbled by their weakness. So, they often don't act on what little power that might fall to them.

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If a corrupt man is given power,there is no way that he wouldn't display his corrupt habit. - Since all people are corrupt, you are talking about everyone. If power is given to someone,the way he operates without power remains the same,and some can hide their corrupt habit to deceive people but it can't be hidden for long. - Right, much of the time. But sometimes a corrupt person changes his mind, just like a good man changes his. If you see a man that is in power and is corrupt,this means that he has been corrupt ever since the beginning before he came into power. - That is true, because all people are corrupt. But there are many 'bad' people who do not show it at all when they are poor... because they need help just to live. Showing corruption when poor, might turn away the benefits that they might get from those who are good and somewhat in control of giving benefits. In addition, when they are poor, they see how corruption harms other poor people, and their empathy keeps them from showing the corruption that they naturally are.

Let's take for example of the corrupt politicians that do everything in their power to make sure that they win elections by rigging it or even kill people for power. In my country,I will say that corruption leads to power and not power leads to corruption,because we hear big lies before elections and we see how the votes are sold out to a candidate that has paid for it and at the end the wrong candidate that is not the people's choice will be put into power.  Meaning a corrupt leader that used money to rig election, and he will continue with his corrupt act in power.

In Biden's case, his big American corruption is linked to blackmail that people in foreign countries are using against him... especially China. If Biden wasn't being blackmailed, his corruption might only be half of what it is.

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September 01, 2023, 08:45:15 PM
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If a corrupt man is given power,there is no way that he wouldn't display his corrupt habit. If power is given to someone,the way he operates without power remains the same,and some can hide their corrupt habit to deceive people but it can't be hidden for long. If you see a man that is in power and is corrupt,this means that he has been corrupt ever since the beginning before he came into power.

Let's take for example of the corrupt politicians that do everything in their power to make sure that they win elections by rigging it or even kill people for power. In my country,I will say that corruption leads to power and not power leads to corruption,because we hear big lies before elections and we see how the votes are sold out to a candidate that has paid for it and at the end the wrong candidate that is not the people's choice will be put into power.  Meaning a corrupt leader that used money to rig election, and he will continue with his corrupt act in power.
Yes you are correct about what you are saying, if a bad person has the power over all he's bad character will definitely show off one day even if the person is trying to hide it for people to see, although in this life you can't satisfy everybody because what you thinks is right it might be wrong for others and that's the nature of life.
Some people were not corrupt while they were common but untill they have the powers that's when they became corrupted, if a person is bad I don't think that the society will choose the person to lead them.
Well I am also a good Nigerian and I believe that there are good leaders out there but the real thing is that as long as you entered into the political seat those corrupt politicians out there will poison the mind of the good ones with money and if the person says A maybe after everything he will start think B so my conclusion is that let's do our best thsts all.

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September 01, 2023, 09:04:18 PM
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Political power does have the potential to corrupt officials. When individuals hold significant authority & decision making abilities it can be tempting for some to abuse their power for personal gain or to prioritise their own interests over those of the people they are meant to serve. Obviously not all officials succumb to this corruption. Some remain honest & dedicated to their responsibilities.It is crucial to promote transparency, accountability & ethical behaviour in politics to mitigate the risk of corruption.

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September 01, 2023, 11:23:20 PM
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Power is said to be the ability to control the action of other people around you.when can change the decision of other people using force or negotiations you are are said to powerful.some types of power include,

Physical power (the rock)
Political power (Joe Biden)
Economic power ( Alinko Dangote)
Expert power (Lionel Messi)
Referent power(Nelson Mandela)
Coercive power(Saddam Hussein) etc

Political power is said to be the ability to control people in a country without problem.but too much political power bring about dictators.

There is a popular saying that power corrupt, but absolute power corrupt absolutely.

  Power does corrupt, and with the saying power corrupts,  but absolute power corrupt absolutely, it proved that with great power comes great responsibilities and such responsibilities can lessen ones morals and this can be the typical hero to villian story. Such examples can be found in Government or politics as a person in a high state of power tends to abuse it.

  Whereas morals are weakened because of absolute power, where there's little or no remorse of the decisions or actions made, be it good, or bad. There's simply no opposition due to such amount of power given to an individual or simply as power brings forth enormous confidence in those that weilds it. Power's like an addictive drug, there is going to be need for a stronger dosage especially when the brain starts to adapt to the usual dosage. It's never enough.
 


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September 01, 2023, 11:35:33 PM
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Power is said to be the ability to control the action of other people around you.when can change the decision of other people using force or negotiations you are are said to powerful.some types of power include,

Physical power (the rock)
Political power (Joe Biden)
Economic power ( Alinko Dangote)
Expert power (Lionel Messi)
Referent power(Nelson Mandela)
Coercive power(Saddam Hussein) etc

Political power is said to be the ability to control people in a country without problem.but too much political power bring about dictators.

There is a popular saying that power corrupt, but absolute power corrupt absolutely.
the system is corrupt already. is the power that brings out more corruption on them.
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September 02, 2023, 07:02:02 PM
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Power doesn't corrupt. The corruption is there long before the power. The reason we don't see the corruption when there is little or no power is, people without power are humbled by their weakness. So, they often don't act on what little power that might fall to them.

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Agreed. Power makes people feel more true to themselves and more like themselves because it showcases the inner beliefs and desires of each individual. Besides, this is what I was thinking about today when I was having a though about asking a user of this forum some important questions and my mind goes to Hhampuz cause he appears to be one of the most reasonable and mature managers in this forum based on how I have seen him treated issues for years.

People only misunderstand corruption and power because the corrupt mind is there right before the power comes and it's the power that shows it to the public. Is just like having a friend who's poor and humble during that time you can't know who she actually was until she has money. This is something I have experienced through a friend.

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September 03, 2023, 02:52:21 PM
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Power is now such a thing that they are getting it anyway and if they get it, they don't want to come down from it. They don't have time to think about what comes next. How can I survive? The question that power causes corruption is complex but power is one of the tools of corruption because power is the cause of corruption and then there is an opportunity to do so.There is no such thing as male or female when it comes to corruption but men are more affected by corruption because they have to carry out many responsibilities and often misuse their power to do corruption.Power does not always corrupt, but it helps to corrupt. The main reason for corruption is the degradation of human morals and lack of good governance has become an activity
However, not all power leads to corruption. First of all, what comes first is how the power is acquired, depending on the type of corruption and whether it will corrupt if it comes to power. comes through corruption then it is 100% sure that he will abuse power and corrupt it has become an eternal fact of the world.
Finally, I can say that excess power or independence is not good for any work, so everyone If management is created through discipline and pleasure, if the person you want to put in power is selected through the right method and if you check what his values ​​and ethics are.Then you will find the right people and by using the power and its good side many people can easily control many bad things and manage all the work properly and whom you have entrusted. If he takes the responsibility with bad thoughts then he will abuse the power in taking the responsibility.Corruption originates from personality and corruption from people or institutions is created by power But currently corruption by abuse of power in other and developing countries is 100% really advanced but it is less in quantity.If accountability, transparency and good governance and independence of the judiciary are ensured in a state, power can never turn into corruption and lead to corruption.Rather than discussing the corruption that power leads to, we should first think about the root cause of why we are doing corruption, then it will be possible to prevent corruption and if we see These are a little more common in imaginary or other states because these states have a lower standard of living and a higher level of corruption due to higher levels of greed and so on.
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September 07, 2023, 06:17:40 AM
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Power is said to be the ability to control the action of other people around you.when can change the decision of other people using force or negotiations you are are said to powerful.some types of power include,

Physical power (the rock)
Political power (Joe Biden)
Economic power ( Alinko Dangote)
Expert power (Lionel Messi)
Referent power(Nelson Mandela)
Coercive power(Saddam Hussein) etc

Political power is said to be the ability to control people in a country without problem.but too much political power bring about dictators.

There is a popular saying that power corrupt, but absolute power corrupt absolutely.


Your question is somehow confusing
but ill rather say power corrupts but generally a corrupt mind corrupts power entirely.


Looking at the society at large its only when one's certain mind is towards achieving their selfish gain.
They go about to attain it and the only way they can achieve that mindset is by gaining power.
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September 07, 2023, 11:35:49 AM
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Political power is said to be the ability to control people in a country without problem.but too much political power bring about dictators.
Every that's too much is bad and the same goes with the power that an official in the government has. The tendency of abuse and corruption is higher if that person is thinking of that. But not all that has the same power are abusing it, there are still honest officials and workers for the public service.

There is a popular saying that power corrupt, but absolute power corrupt absolutely.
It's on the mindset of the official. You'll see how they work when they're already in the office and if they're truly corrupt, you'll see them how they perform and take action based on the post that they've been elected.

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I don't know where to stand trying to reason the answer to your question but I'm seeing it this way . If you have very hairy cat and you love to cuddle it but it always resists that will you stop cause you care about that cat or you would just continue to do that cause you enjoy it . Having absolute power is addictive and you always exercise it . At times you wouldn't even notice . Any man can become that devil
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I don't know where to stand trying to reason the answer to your question but I'm seeing it this way . If you have very hairy cat and you love to cuddle it but it always resists that will you stop cause you care about that cat or you would just continue to do that cause you enjoy it . Having absolute power is addictive and you always exercise it . At times you wouldn't even notice . Any man can become that devil

In other words, a good man, if he gets power, just might become insensitive to the needs of the poor, weak people. This might happen because he forgets what it was like when he, himself, was weak and poor. It's not that he wants to be cruel. It's just that he doesn't realize that he is being cruel, because the things he does don't affect him that way any longer.

If he gets reminded about how it felt back then when he was weak, he would be more thoughtfully considerate.

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September 17, 2023, 04:28:21 PM
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Once there is this ability to control other peoples will there will be this unconscious act of corruption, Sometimes this corruption is not intentional but the fear of having your subject challenge your decisions create room for corruption and once the idea get nurtured it becomes a norm. It is very difficult tasting power without having this corrupt feelings, It only takes discipline to stay incorruptible and most time it can make such leaders isolated from the others.
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September 17, 2023, 05:34:12 PM
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Power is said to be the ability to control the action of other people around you.when can change the decision of other people using force or negotiations you are are said to powerful.some types of power include,

Physical power (the rock)
Political power (Joe Biden)
Economic power ( Alinko Dangote)
Expert power (Lionel Messi)
Referent power(Nelson Mandela)
Coercive power(Saddam Hussein) etc

Political power is said to be the ability to control people in a country without problem.but too much political power bring about dictators.

There is a popular saying that power corrupt, but absolute power corrupt absolutely.
By power they generally always means the power to affect other people's lives or make decisions which could affect other people lives. this mostly comes with the political powers because you would generally not care for the lives of people who might get affected with your decisions after some time. This is what people means you get corrupt with power.
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September 17, 2023, 09:25:55 PM
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Not power, but uncontrolled, unbalanced power is what is very likely to corrupt. Even those who reach leadership with honest intentions - and there are examples such as Gandhi, sometimes are driven by their self-righteousness, since they are people that had to test their stance very frequently along their paths, so they inevitably become too much self-confident.

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People with physical power don't have it enough that it could corrupt them. They are still bound by same laws as the rest of us. And being best at some sport has nothing to do with corruption either, because you can't use that power to be dishonest or make a criminal offense by being good at soccer.

People who have power over others can be corrupted, and often are. That's why transparency and regulations are so important. I know that many crypto fanatics flinch when regulations are mentioned, but they are set for a good reason and one of them is to get rid of corruption.

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September 17, 2023, 10:01:58 PM
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*it always seems to be a 'him'.

Well, the gap between male politicians to female politicians up to this date is still huge, so the existence of corruption will be more noticeable to male species. In the future where the number of female to male politcians is almost equal or equal, only then we can have a data that will prove if gender is a related for this "CORRUPTION"
Who else but him,  (because he have to take all the risk).

The merging between male and female politicians is still very high and at that we can easily ascribed the causes pf that to lack of participation from the female politicians,  because sometime they can't take the risks that os involved in contesting and winning elections in most places,  and this also is evident in the political conduct in some places.

Political struggle in Africa most especially is too rough for women to get involved and even if they,  they get kicked behind by the male forsk who sees this thing as man's business,  but seriously,  it will really be nice if we can at least let a woman president in Africa and let us test the line of leadership.
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September 19, 2023, 06:11:51 PM
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Actually, power vested on an actor by virture of his higher position, does corrupt. The concept corrupt tenotes are an action verb that explains changing the rules of the game. Therefore whoever that is in the higher position of power has the tendency to circumvent the standard.
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September 20, 2023, 11:34:59 AM
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Power is something we humans need to be careful about because it has a way of changing an individual. Depending on the person in question because I know there are people when given the power to do something or as a leader they don't abuse it instead they use it to help those they're to serve. While in some cases when power is given to someone they use it for their selfish need, without the care of their subject. That's why I'll always say power only suit God almighty because he knows how to use it on like we humans, greed and selfishness won't let us make it to use.
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September 20, 2023, 03:31:08 PM
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If I can capture what you are saying here, you are asking if power truly corrupts the holder in-charge?
Well... Power can be bestowed in different aspects but all aimed at the goal of bringing expected impact's.

Power is the ability and the capacity of doing greats.
It could be as follows...

*Power of speech (authority)
*Power to lead (leadership)
*Physical power (muscular)
*Educational power (knowledge)
* Monetary power (money)
*Invention & technology (creativity).

Now power can be ordained or bestowed, either by appointment or by election or even by possessions.
It now depends on its perspective looking at to bring or posseses the abilities and capacities to build a solid wall or laying reliable and productive bricks either by exercised of  power oby authorities, power of leadership, muscular power, monetary power or by creativities to be ascertained for the benefits of an individual or others.

This has reminded me of a thread I previously created titled "Too much power in on man's hand". https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461210.msg62609003#msg62609003

So looking at it in an overview, I think you are pointing at power when it has to do with the others (public).

If I must sum up to this with experiences of things going on in the societies today where a man holds a multiple  portfolios or in position to ascertain a superintendent authority with the lack of capacities and abilities to exercise it's power with wisdom, POWER has been a bigotry, selfish interests and threats to the societies.

The above recent listed Powers has been a tussle (corruption) for the oppressors of oppressions across the existence of humans with it's negative effects in the societies where forces and supremacy is accorded by vulnerability depending on its failure to ascertain the  abilities and capacities to deal with others cordially according to a wellbeing

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