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August 18, 2021, 08:30:06 AM
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As the United States accelerates its withdrawal from Afghanistan, the withdrawal of the United States has exacerbated the imbalance of Afghanistan's internal power. At present, Afghanistan will fall into a situation of prolonged or normalized civil war.I also saw the video about the airport. Those people wanted to catch American planes. That scene deeply touched me. Human lives are so small and humble in the war. This is terrible.
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August 18, 2021, 08:46:21 AM
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I want to know why the army of 20 years was beaten and collapsed in 2 weeks?
Although Taliban guarantees that Afghan war has ended, they will forgive all opponents.
But people in Kabul is very panic. May now Afghan women and girls will begin to prohibit education.
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August 18, 2021, 09:04:01 AM
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I want to know why the army of 20 years was beaten and collapsed in 2 weeks?
Although Taliban guarantees that Afghan war has ended, they will forgive all opponents.
But people in Kabul is very panic. May now Afghan women and girls will begin to prohibit education.

So the first problem was that the Afghan special forces where the first ones to fight the Taliban. They got completely surrounded and were left alone, there was no USA air support, or troops from the Afghan National Army. After all the special forces got wiped out it was pretty much over the. The normal Afghan Army was not trained to actually believe in their cause. They just took the salary and new equipment from the coalition and as soon as the real fighting started they went home. Really sad.
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August 18, 2021, 03:34:16 PM
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I think Afganistan will not fall into a prolonged state of war again. Now, there will be an effort for peace and prosperity. Their people want no more war and fight. They are sick of nearly 30 years of fighting. Initial steps of the Taliban are showing that they will seek the solution, understanding for all fighting groups. They will make effort for peace , development, and restoration of employment & a better economy.

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August 18, 2021, 03:44:58 PM
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As the United States accelerates its withdrawal from Afghanistan, the withdrawal of the United States has exacerbated the imbalance of Afghanistan's internal power. At present, Afghanistan will fall into a situation of prolonged or normalized civil war.I also saw the video about the airport. Those people wanted to catch American planes. That scene deeply touched me. Human lives are so small and humble in the war. This is terrible.
The civil war has been on going the last 20 years and the country is at the moment more stable than it was the past 20 years. atm there is no war the taliban have seized control now we have to wait how the world reacts and whether there will be new attacks on the new government in Afghanistan. Biden has said he will not be going back to war I think the war is over and the people of Afghanistan could suffer if the new rulers are what the western media has been portraying them as. 
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August 18, 2021, 06:00:31 PM
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Trump was going to withdraw from Afghanistan but was going to keep Bagram air force base so we could still easily launch airstrikes. Trump would also only withdraw troops based on the conditions on the ground.
The Americans failed when they agreed to remove their soldiers from Afghanistan in exchange for a stop to the attacks on American military bases and residents during a friendly meeting with the Taliban last year.

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Trump was going to continue to provide the Afghan military support via air support. Biden basically handed the country over to the Taliban.
Now that the Taliban are functioning freely, the safety of Americans is dependent on the state of Afghanistan and Pakistan. Biden will regret not keeping the Taliban under his control.

We've been there for almost 20 years. Billions of dollars, thousands of lives -- all for what exactly?
To avoid another terrorist assault on American territory like the one that occurred on September 11, 2001, Americans have been in Afghanistan since 2001 for their own safety, not for the safety of Afghans.

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August 18, 2021, 08:05:20 PM
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To avoid another terrorist assault on American territory like the one that occurred on September 11, 2001, Americans have been in Afghanistan since 2001 for their own safety, not for the safety of Afghans.

My problem with this rationale is that Osama Bin Laden was captured in Pakistan. If an occupying presence stays too long in one place, the terrorists can just move elsewhere.

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August 18, 2021, 08:14:38 PM
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funny how the word "problem" getting in the routine of the regime propagandist... for those humans here, you have certainly already banned them, but funnily they pop like toxic mushrooms...

When the people of the world will get that covid was intentionally released to frame china, steal the election from trump, assure massive bail outs and foster the forced vaccination agendas...they will forget, like 911, wmds in irak, uss liberty or pedogate.
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To avoid another terrorist assault on American territory like the one that occurred on September 11, 2001, Americans have been in Afghanistan since 2001 for their own safety, not for the safety of Afghans.

My problem with this rationale is that Osama Bin Laden was captured in Pakistan. If an occupying presence stays too long in one place, the terrorists can just move elsewhere.

Yes, Bin Laden was apprehended in Pakistan, but his training and camp were set up in Afghanistan, and he launched most of his attacks from there, so the Americans reasoned that deposing the Taliban, who had been in control since 1996, would weaken al-Qaeda's activities.

The Taliban retreated to the south after the Americans invaded Afghanistan and took control from them, while its leaders escaped to Pakistan. It's a tremendous failure to spend 20 years in Afghanistan and not be able to retake the south from the Taliban.

This is a big motivation to other Islamic State militias operating In Africa, America must show strength.

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August 19, 2021, 12:23:04 AM
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To avoid another terrorist assault on American territory like the one that occurred on September 11, 2001, Americans have been in Afghanistan since 2001 for their own safety, not for the safety of Afghans.
This makes little sense why would Americans leave the country where there have been isolated attacks from terrorists and go to a war torn country? Their chance of survival would be better at home and not in a country which has been one of the biggest areas in the world for conflict recently. It was in the best interest of America to put the Afghanistan government in control and out of control of the taliban because they consolidate the power in the middle east. That has now changed and it is only because Biden is more conservative than previous presidents that America has withdrawn. I think Trump put in the order to withdraw before Biden was elected but the presidents before that have continued the war even when people were requesting America to withdraw.
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August 19, 2021, 12:42:33 AM
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This is a big motivation to other Islamic State militias operating In Africa, America must show strength.

It's not strength to invade foreign countries and blow trillions of dollars there with no net gain at best, and likely with a whole new generation growing up to hate the US. "Insanity" is more like it.
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August 19, 2021, 01:38:48 AM
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To avoid another terrorist assault on American territory like the one that occurred on September 11, 2001, Americans have been in Afghanistan since 2001 for their own safety, not for the safety of Afghans.

My problem with this rationale is that Osama Bin Laden was captured in Pakistan. If an occupying presence stays too long in one place, the terrorists can just move elsewhere.

Yes, Bin Laden was apprehended in Pakistan, but his training and camp were set up in Afghanistan, and he launched most of his attacks from there, so the Americans reasoned that deposing the Taliban, who had been in control since 1996, would weaken al-Qaeda's activities.

The Taliban retreated to the south after the Americans invaded Afghanistan and took control from them, while its leaders escaped to Pakistan. It's a tremendous failure to spend 20 years in Afghanistan and not be able to retake the south from the Taliban.

This is a big motivation to other Islamic State militias operating In Africa, America must show strength.


They tried to give democracy to those Afghans who sided with them but these are just a few, some are even just pretending to like the democracy they gave. This country had been around for a very long time, Afgan already existed even before Columbus reached America. They can't make them forget the culture of these people in just 20 years no matter how much strength they will show even taking over the south.

What is necessary for them is to leave the Afghans alone, if they kill each other there and hail someone like Sadame, it's their choice. We have no say about it. But I don't think a leader will arise if he ain't giving good service to the people as well.

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August 19, 2021, 07:03:10 AM
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This makes little sense why would Americans leave the country where there have been isolated attacks from terrorists and go to a war torn country? Their chance of survival would be better at home and not in a country which has been one of the biggest areas in the world for conflict recently.

I've previously stated that the safety of Americans is dependent on the state of Afghanistan and Pakistan (homes of Isis, Al-Qaida, and Taliban militants). The best way to defeat your enemies is to keep them close, which is exactly what America has done for the past 20 years; now you understand why they had to sacrifice everything.

This is a big motivation to other Islamic State militias operating In Africa, America must show strength.

It's not strength to invade foreign countries and blow trillions of dollars there with no net gain at best, and likely with a whole new generation growing up to hate the US. "Insanity" is more like it.

Because every danm American's life depends on it, and because America will NEVER help you until it benefits them, they approached Nigeria and Chad with ridiculous propositions a few years ago when the two countries needed help fighting Boko Haram. You are world power do your job!!!

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August 19, 2021, 11:52:58 AM
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Because every danm American's life depends on it

Very dramatic. Also untrue.

You are world power do your job!!!

I don't think invading foreign countries should be in the job description but ultimately it's the employer (the American voter) who decides it.
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August 19, 2021, 12:11:00 PM
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I don't think invading foreign countries should be in the job description but ultimately it's the employer (the American voter) who decides it.

you are based in SD? what ever you are such a liar, how is miss paski circling? 3 days and she is back, after all it was only 4 days ago isn't it?

I strongly believe that you are a transplant of the obama regime now working for the biden regime, aka an enemy of this republic.

I hope that if the FBI can be overthrown and the american people liberated that you will be martial courted and executed in full compliance with military laws.

have a nice day, suchmoon Smiley.

questions : what did hit the pentagon on 911? who mined WTC 7 for it's control demolition (no plane hit, said on tv, ask trump, he knows as everyone in the building industry) ? what happened in the week priors to 911 in wtc 1 and 2? how can people who never flown a jetliner get 2 hits? why didn't the israelis warning where heard, but only by silverstein and co? what was in the SEC records file on WTC 7 and the FBI files?

so how can a people give an instruction has an employer, if the said employee (FBI) is lying, like for pedogate with 2 arrests?

bye bye suchy... see you in jump suit soon Smiley.

When the people of the world will get that covid was intentionally released to frame china, steal the election from trump, assure massive bail outs and foster the forced vaccination agendas...they will forget, like 911, wmds in irak, uss liberty or pedogate.
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August 19, 2021, 02:06:56 PM
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Still perplexed as to why Americans and other NATO members have been battling less than 200,000 Taliban forces in Afghanistan for the past 20 years with no visible results? The Afghan war has been a source of cash for the wealthy in the United States, who have funneled billions of dollars into their own pockets, robbing from taxpayers. @Suchmoon

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August 19, 2021, 02:22:48 PM
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Still perplexed [...] @Suchmoon

Not sure why you're addressing this to me. You're the one saying that the US should keep stepping on the same rake over and over again.
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August 19, 2021, 02:39:42 PM
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To prove the sentence with which you disagreed previously, and to inform you that Americans only pay Americans, and that those large sums of money never crossed the border.

I'm not against President Biden's troop pullout; I just despise the fact that Americans are posting high figures online while spending little and accomplishing nothing in Afghanistan. Hope you agreed with me now

Still perplexed [...] @Suchmoon

Not sure why you're addressing this to me. You're the one saying that the US should keep stepping on the same rake over and over again.

America will NEVER help you until it benefits them.

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August 19, 2021, 07:25:43 PM
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Still perplexed as to why Americans and other NATO members have been battling less than 200,000 Taliban forces in Afghanistan for the past 20 years with no visible results? The Afghan war has been a source of cash for the wealthy in the United States, who have funneled billions of dollars into their own pockets, robbing from taxpayers. @Suchmoon

You can fight against an army, but not against an ideology. The Afghan national army is 350,000 strong (trained and armed by the NATO) and the Taliban had around 85,000 active fighters (mostly illiterate, with hardly any formal military training). If they could seize most of the territory without much fighting (there was no warfare as such, the Taliban leaders just signed deals with provincial government and took over the administration), then it means that a large section of the Afghan population supported the ideology represented by the Taliban.
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August 20, 2021, 11:55:07 PM
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https://twitter.com/Anthony/status/1428712321317318657/photo/1

Americans are in an extremely bad spot.

The French are rescuing their citizens at the Kabul airport but also making evacuations in other places, the US soldiers are stranded at the airport.

The US can't go around extracting US citizens or Afghan allies outside of the airport because the fear is that the Taliban will start a physical shooting war with American troops - that means more troops must be brought back to the region, and the war that Biden tried to end will have literally have become worse had Biden left troops there in the first place.

Americans are screwed, the government you paid for will not help you.

There were also some journalists saying that American citizens were being charged 2,000 USD for a plane ride home. The state department scrapped it once the stories began to circulate it.
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