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Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia
Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia but Britain, along with the United States, lost the war. And it sent a message to China and Russia that they are also weak against people who do not have weapons like the United States or Europe. So is there anything to be gained from joint US-British military exercises? In case if the Taliban retake Afghanistan?
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I'm not quite sure about the US' motivation when started the war in Afghanistan but I don't think it's for showing off power. The US failed to do so against China and Russia (Soviet at that time) in Vietnam war and I'm sure it doesn't want to make the same mistake again. It's just Afghanistan the ‘Graveyard of Empires’.
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I hope that the current international arms deals with the United States and Europe will be canceled by all conscious countries and that the countries that have taken arms or technology from the US and EU will consider themselves insecure because when you are in a country If you can't win the war, then what guarantee can such a weapon give you that you will be able to defend yourself or not? I'm not quite sure about the US' motivation when started the war in Afghanistan but I don't think it's for showing off power. The US failed to do so against China and Russia (Soviet at that time) in Vietnam war and I'm sure it doesn't want to make the same mistake again. It's just Afghanistan the ‘Graveyard of Empires’.
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It could mean that Ukraine and Taiwan are free real estate. Some dodgy characters within Russia and China, maybe even some colluding together, to take advantage of the chaotic US foreign policy situation. You see US troops leaving Afghanistan by the Biden admininstration, surely they must be thinking that their aggression would go unchecked. Certainly shouldn't trust Vladmir Putin or Xi Jinping to exercise restraint during a time of US withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Oh, and by the way, if the US was interested in showing power, they could do it other ways. They need to send in the bombers.
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With the recent news, China is just chill and observing and they can be with the reconstruction of the new government led by the Taliban. There's still both for them, risk and opportunity.
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Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia
Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia but Britain, along with the United States, lost the war. And it sent a message to China and Russia that they are also weak against people who do not have weapons like the United States or Europe. So is there anything to be gained from joint US-British military exercises? In case if the Taliban retake Afghanistan?
The lesson to be learned from Afghanistan is that people don't believe in your idea, they won't be fighting for it. It took 20 years to train the Afghan Army and it got destroyed in 2 weeks. Most of the soldiers didn't even fight and just went home. Most of the fighting was done by the special forces but they were outnumbered and had no air support. Most of them got wiped out. So all USA did in the end was giving better weapons to the Taliban.
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I was disappointed to hear that the Chinese run media is already making reference to the United States not being able to protect Taiwan and basically saying America is a lot of talk but able to stand up and protect those who choose to form alliances with us. It’s sad to think one weak leader can make an entire country seem like such cowards on the world stage.
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So all USA did in the end was giving better weapons to the Taliban.
It's kind of a tradition at this point.
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I'm not quite sure about the US' motivation when started the war in Afghanistan but I don't think it's for showing off power. The US failed to do so against China and Russia (Soviet at that time) in Vietnam war and I'm sure it doesn't want to make the same mistake again. It's just Afghanistan the ‘Graveyard of Empires’.
The Korean Defeat was even more brutal than vietnam, add their latest attempt in Myanmar, or Hong Kong, or Xinjang... My take? It's complicated, the former american republic, known as the united states of america was never ruled by one single agenda. It was more a chaotic entreprise, with sometimes conflicting and other times collaboratings agendas. I just would like to mention 3 important events that this war on terror permitted to hide 1, the fall of WTC 7... sec files (always winning trades, insider trading records), fbi files (maybe already on the pedogate political take down of Christendom), pentagon 2 trillions missing... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foreignpolicyjournal.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F02%2Fwtc-collapse.jpg&t=665&c=VjDB9dq1XKLaEg) 2. the commercial banker bailouts following ben bernanke interest rise while having said to the moms and pops of america to go on variable mortgage rate, while congress had lowered mortgage lending conditions to hide their hollowing out and looting operations against this former republic. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmikesmoneytalks.ca%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2Finterest-rates.jpg&t=665&c=oT6rv9CX3Tw-cQ) 3. pedogate ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.img.sputniknews.com%2Fimg%2F07e4%2F08%2F14%2F1080229964_0%3A258%3A2047%3A1365_768x0_80_0_1_bef0b9c8841263aafc61b119087cf84d.jpg&t=665&c=ABaeNjz-kHW6jg) Don't worry, I understand that for most of you it's way too complex, I don't add that the Iranian battlespace is way bigger than afghanistan and irak combined, with people really ready to die in an end of time total war. but if you have time, always DYOR and never trust them. NEVER. and as those events are just part of a bigger plan I would invite you to do your own research on those 3 men : https://www.azquotes.com/author/2100-Zbigniew_Brzezinskihttps://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/28442.Henry_Kissingerhttps://www.azquotes.com/author/12501-David_Rockefelleronce you do please find my threat on how to manage anger on the "off-topic" sub ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5355058.new#new) have a nice day and if you wish you can always go back to your predictive programming (teLIEvision or soLIEmedia), or forget...
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Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia
Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia but Britain, along with the United States, lost the war. And it sent a message to China and Russia that they are also weak against people who do not have weapons like the United States or Europe. So is there anything to be gained from joint US-British military exercises? In case if the Taliban retake Afghanistan?
This news is really not new to us even before they are already using afghanistan and iran as battleground. USA always have a hidden agenda that's why i really dont trust them. If that only to show some firepower to scare other country like china and russia, then they are wrong.
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I was disappointed to hear that the Chinese run media is already making reference to the United States not being able to protect Taiwan and basically saying America is a lot of talk but able to stand up and protect those who choose to form alliances with us. It’s sad to think one weak leader can make an entire country seem like such cowards on the world stage.
This will be the talk because American and their allies did not succeed in keeping the Afghanistan army in control of Afghanistan. They lost the war after 20 years of abolishing the previous government and they are back in control now.
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I suggest that the Afghan government treat the United States in the same way, blocking the Kabul International Airport and blocking the U.S. retreat. Afghanistan will become a war zone in the future, and China will inevitably play a game with the United States.
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I suggest that the Afghan government treat the United States in the same way, blocking the Kabul International Airport and blocking the U.S. retreat. Afghanistan will become a war zone in the future, and China will inevitably play a game with the United States.
Maybe the people and the army in Afghanistan think like you. but The Taliban promised that the war in Afghanistan is over and they will forgive all their opponents.
Compared with the United States, the United States still has better resources than Afghanistan, and it truly initiates war. Not necessarily who will win.
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Afganistan was a battlefield of superpower since nearly 1980. Russia could not achieve its goals here, defeated and lost its power & states. After Russia losing power America tried to keep its hold But After a great investment in the army and arms here. America could not get success nor succeed to show its power to China. The afghani nation is under war last 40 years. Their economic, social, political structure has been destroyed. Their people are sick of war. They want peace to establish a new developed Afganistan. So it is the duty of all nations of the world to help Afganistan to establish itself.
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Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia
Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia but Britain, along with the United States, lost the war. And it sent a message to China and Russia that they are also weak against people who do not have weapons like the United States or Europe. So is there anything to be gained from joint US-British military exercises? In case if the Taliban retake Afghanistan?
United States unable to take over Taliban in last 20 years and finally USA were forced to get out of their country facing a miserable defeat. United states have nothing to show to the world, instead i wonder how will they face the world with a defeat ? How will they convince people that the money they used in the war against Taliban in last 20 years and the lives they have destroyed for USA soldiers in the last 20 years, who is to blame for all this ?
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Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia
Afghanistan was a battleground for the United States to show its power to China and Russia but Britain, along with the United States, lost the war. And it sent a message to China and Russia that they are also weak against people who do not have weapons like the United States or Europe. So is there anything to be gained from joint US-British military exercises? In case if the Taliban retake Afghanistan?
United States unable to take over Taliban in last 20 years and finally USA were forced to get out of their country facing a miserable defeat. United states have nothing to show to the world, instead i wonder how will they face the world with a defeat ? How will they convince people that the money they used in the war against Taliban in last 20 years and the lives they have destroyed for USA soldiers in the last 20 years, who is to blame for all this ? Pakistan gave the accomodation for the Tliban and China is giving the financial help for them as well so this is war between China and US to show their power to this world meanwhile other country people are suffering for their personal benefits. But now most government closed their borders and not ready to accept the fleeing people as refugees.
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