Bitcoin vs Altcoins

[Stablemoney21]

Bitcoin is useless. Nothing more than a tool for speculative idiots. Satshi who?  What is bitcoin backed by.  We are building a new stablecoin that will be 100% backed by dollars. A currency backed by the worlds largest economy. Unlike useless bitcoin. This is the future.  Reply for more info.

[qwertyup23]

You are right, there are tons of altcoins in existence but you should only focus on the top 15 of the altcoins that are currently listed on the market. It is too risky if you invest and purchase altcoins from new projects (pump and dump scheme). Try your best to focus on just 1-2 at the moment. Diversifying your portfolio may seem to be a good idea, but in an investment mechanism that is highly volatile, it is better to just focus on less than more.

Just remember that the price history is going to be the biggest factor here. Almost all of the top 15 altcoins increased their prices on the following years.

Bitcoin is useless. Nothing more than a tool for speculative idiots. Satshi who?  What is bitcoin backed by.  We are building a new stablecoin that will be 100% backed by dollars. A currency backed by the worlds largest economy. Unlike useless bitcoin. This is the future.  Reply for more info.

Obviously a troll, calling BTC useless without providing any concrete data or information on why it is supposed to be useless. The funny thing is, after saying that bitcoin is indeed useless, you subsequently promoted your own project with it.

OP, better avoid investing any coins from their project.

[Ceyflix-Rez]

If BTC is the only crypto coin available I believe we will have less investors in crypto space today, people making big money from altcoins is why many people are so into altcoins, they know bitcoin is huge but bitcoin is high in price and they want another crypto coin that will be like BTC in future

[Fivestar4everMVP]

As for the plethora of altcoins out there, and, in particular, the few that I own, I worry about the long-term future of their viability. At the time of this writing, it seems as if the sky is the limit and these projects are not only growing, but here to stay. However, things aren't always as they seem and I'm starting to wonder if it may be more prudent to dump and invest solely in BTC which I feel provides the most benefit to society and potentially has the most durability.

I wouldn't say it's prudent to dump altcoins and invest only in BTC.  Diversification is important always in investing.  Bitcoin is the King though, and if you are holding over the long term I can't think of a better coin to put your money in.  That being said, a little exposure to coins like ETH & BNB that can provide revenue through staking isn't a bad idea.  Coins that offer exposure to liquidity pools like CAKE & UNI are another great way to provide some revenue for your portfolio.  Additionally, you can use platforms like CoinEx to provide your own liquidity pair of coins you choose to deposit.

I guess my point is that crypto is full of cool stuff if you look around for it.  Holding is great, but remember to keep some coins to actually use as well.  If you're buying altcoins and not using them, that's when I'd be worried about their value going to zero.

Like ognasty said, diversification is the best if making money is involved, except you @op just wanna hold btc for btc sake, then that's a different topic, many top investors hold a lot of bitcoin and still invest in other altcoins, and this altcoins have brought in great returns just like btc if not more.
The thing is, you @op can invest in good altcoins for the short term and invest in bitcoin for the long term, this way, you benefit from both sides, a good idea is to from time to time put some of your altcoins profit in btc, this way, your btc holding for the long term is growing, you can even make or call it your retirement savings.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I don't think every ALT is valuable, but I do think there is a place for those types of projects and if they are pushing the boundaries of crypto space then that's a good thing in the long run.

Well said, I don't think the community will be so against altcoins if they're actually adding value to the market but that's not what's happening instead we're just seeing duplicates and inferior ones for that matter all over the market. I still believe we haven't seen the best of the altcoin market but it isn't any of the Defi crabs and NFT bullshit flooding the whole market.

Those are just distractions with the intentions of stealing your Bitcoin. Basically these projects are just duplicate of each other meaning they're just built for speculation purpose and nothing more. When that altcoins with motive of adding value to the community comes, they'll be welcomed like how the likes of ethereum was welcomed.

There's no doubting ethereum did play an important role in the adoption of the market but its role can't be compared to that of bitcoin. The stablecoin did also playing a role as now there's an alternative to fiats for securing our profit incase of market volatility.

[tersek]

If BTC is the only crypto coin available I believe we will have less investors in crypto space today, people making big money from altcoins is why many people are so into altcoins, they know bitcoin is huge but bitcoin is high in price and they want another crypto coin that will be like BTC in future

this is a report on the crypto market globally and all Altcoins are only 6% ahead

The global crypto market cap is $2.10T. Bitcoin’s dominance is currently 44.08%

In conclusion, investors are still very interested in bitcoin

[Ridi]

Bitcoin vs Altcoin:-

Altcoins have a smaller investment market as compared to Bitcoin.Bitcoin is the most secure network whereas Altcoin is usually a lot more volatile and risky. Bitcoin has high volatility, transaction and fees can problem for many people whereas altcoins can provide cheaper and faster transactions.

[Peanutswar]

We all know that the bitcoin is the mother of all coins and mostly the other coins or the altcoins are just still dependent on the market of the bitcoin as you can see when the bitcoin pumps the altcoin pumps and vice versa but not all the coins are the same with this process. They are both volatile base on my experience I saw already the potential of the bitcoin but the altcoins take a lot of tests if this passes the market to become a trend or not.

[Taskford]

Bitcoin is useless. Nothing more than a tool for speculative idiots. Satshi who?  What is bitcoin backed by.  We are building a new stablecoin that will be 100% backed by dollars. A currency backed by the worlds largest economy. Unlike useless bitcoin. This is the future.  Reply for more info.

Reading backwards unto this thread and been curious on why you post such word towards bitcoins then looking at your post history seems you are spreading hate towards this community but I get it you want to promote your project and tell claim something to make it relevant to the one who can read your message but unfortunately we will not buy this kind of tactics since this such of hate words are been used by scammers to promote their scam coin so maybe try another thing and prove that your coin worth something.

Many claim that they are best already but all of them fail or became scam.

[n0nce]

Let me put out my 2 satoshis out here: 'Diversification' is in my honest opinion a word from the legacy system, which Bitcoin is replacing. Most people that 'diversify' into different cryptocurrencies are still thinking in 'investing $ into crypto to cash out big $ profits' (the idea is: if BTC goes down but XYZ goes up, I am still fine in $ terms), even though it is surely possible to trade alts to maximize your BTC stack.

In essence, altcoins aren't needed, since everything they do is either unnecessary (e.g. decentralized virtual cats? for what?) or can be done in BTC way more intelligently and sophisticatedly (e.g. off-chain scaling via LN compared to just dumbly increasing block size and reducing block times). Even though coins might / do exist that seem objectively better (technological standpoint), financially it's not wise to invest in those long-term.

Also, one big point of Bitcoin is that it's real digital, international money. I can receive it anywhere from anyone and spend it anywhere to anyone, at offline and online merchants. If we instead create a system of dozens of cryptocurrencies for various tasks, we're merely replicating the current situation with $, €, £ etc., where you have to exchange (and pay exchange fees) any time you interact with someone using another currency.

So for holding, I wouldn't say altcoins aren't suitable, since only one coin can really 'make it' (large-scale adoption, legal currency etc.) and trading is of course quite speculative and on the edge of being plain gambling in most coins, esp. with small market caps.

That's why I think if you just want to put cash into a cryptocurrency and 'leave & forget about it' for a bunch of years, BTC is the right choice, even though short-term you might find something that outperforms BTC for a few months.

[Gbniman]

Altcoins are alternatives to Bitcoin. They are cryptocurrencies that use a technology called blockchain that allows secure peer-to-peer transactions. 1 Altcoins build on the success of Bitcoin by slightly changing the rules to appeal to different users.
While bitcoin's high volatility, transaction times, and fees can cause a barrier for many customers not eager to risk spending more than they need to for small purchases, altcoins can provide cheaper and faster transactions. ... Bitcoin cash and dogecoin are also much lower.

[n0nce]

Altcoins are alternatives to Bitcoin. They are cryptocurrencies that use a technology called blockchain that allows secure peer-to-peer transactions. 1 Altcoins build on the success of Bitcoin by slightly changing the rules to appeal to different users.
While bitcoin's high volatility, transaction times, and fees can cause a barrier for many customers not eager to risk spending more than they need to for small purchases, altcoins can provide cheaper and faster transactions. ... Bitcoin cash and dogecoin are also much lower.

Of course, altcoins have different rules, that's what defines them and I think everybody knows that.

I don't understand your arguments though:

• volatility => altcoins are way more volatile than BTC (except USDT which is supposed to be tied to USD, but then why not just use USD directly)
• transaction times => use Lightning Network. Technologically superior scaling method, because, well, it scales, blockchains don't (by definition).
• fees => some altcoin fees like ETH are even higher than the ones of BTC and through the use of LN you can avoid mining fees altogether.

I find the mention of highly pumped and dumped Dogecoin very ridiculous one sentence after criticizing Bitcoin's volatility, gotta say: it made me chuckle

An anecdote of the on-chain scaling debate I hinted to in above list: I remember a time, where - mostly due to low usage - ETH fees were very low, while in Bitcoin they were quite high; SegWit wasn't in place yet, neither was LN implemented yet, and Ethereum folks told me they would scale much better due to larger blocks and lower block time. Then, Lightning Network started to develop and they laughed it off: why a different layer, it 'just works' for them without it, etc. Now, their fees are higher than Bitcoin tx fees and they seem to develop 2nd layer solutions as well! The other day someone mentioned to me that 'Ethereum was always proponent to off-chain scaling solutions' and that they were even better suited for them due to the turing-completeness of their scripting language. Now, I'm wondering if they always wanted off-chain scaling anyway, why did they ever bother with the <1 min block time at all and didn't just copy Bitcoin's much less storage- and bandwidth- heavy 10 minute, 1MB limits.

Anyway, sorry for me digressing and little bit of rant; it's certainly more suited to a different topic than this, just wanted to say: some altcoins sound great in theory, but once they get the adoption of Bitcoin (or even earlier) they fail at the same or different hurdles on the way. I mean, for example, Bitcoin was also 'cheap & fast on chain' in its infancy, when blocks were empty and even paying 0.1BTC tx fee was nothing since 1BTC was worth pennies.

[aysg76]

The more you come to know about bitcoin the more tou start understanding that bitcoin vs altcoin is never a topic because comparison can de done between two worthy things but bitcoin always tops the chart and all other altcoins are one way of shitcoins in the market.

First of all i was also not aware about this fact and was not having knowledge about it but then i joined this forum and started reading Mastering Bitcoin by Andreas and it opened up new tech doors for me and the rest contribution was made by the forum in enhancing my crypto knowledge or say bitcoin knowledge.I came to know the technical working of transactions, wallets, nodes,mining and everything being conducted in an decentralised manner rather than any centralised shitcoin whose prices can be manipulated easily.There was one meme which i shared on WO thread back some days.

I have been doing DCA from time to time in bitcoin investment and beleive me it is bringing up some future security to me and profits as well in meantime.Last investment was done at $30k and now they are at $48k so i am already up still people claim it's down or will burst so ignore them.

But i would not say beleive me completely as it is not right but DYOR those who think bitcoin is better and other coins can give you more returns in future.Those coins one crashed will not stand above the table but on other side bitcoin can even climb up the mountain with retail and institutional support.Beleive in it and HOLD bitcoin to secure your future.

[TheNineClub]

Isn't the first rule of investing to not put all your eggs into one basket? By going only for BTC you would be doing just that. I am not saying that anything will happen, but the rule 9f thumb is that nothing lasts forever. As with the mentioned ALTs so too with BTC, I doubt it will last forever. But, the good think is that in this day and age, you can just go back and forth with your investments and not cement yourself into one option.

[Alisha-k]

Other than a complete dump of your altcoin, why not share your portfolio amongst the two either Bitcoin and other coin so you don't miss on both opportunity. You could choose to make it either an even distribution or odd depending on how you would love to posses both coins. Because some altcoin projects could yield more returnz faster compared to Bitcoin

[dbc23]

As for the plethora of altcoins out there, and, in particular, the few that I own, I worry about the long-term future of their viability. At the time of this writing, it seems as if the sky is the limit and these projects are not only growing, but here to stay. However, things aren't always as they seem and I'm starting to wonder if it may be more prudent to dump and invest solely in BTC which I feel provides the most benefit to society and potentially has the most durability.

 Anyways, any feedback is appreciated. Call me a crazy bitcoin maximalist, tell me I'm making the best decision possible or anything in between

Bitcoin could be a better option when filling in your list of coin portfolio and could be give in more returns and certainly has longer durability compared to most altcoins bit have a chain list of other portfolios on your coin list options other than completely dumping them you could reduce the asset of altcoins and share the investment unevenly amongst them making Bitcoin of greater percentage so you don't miss-out on other market capitalization.

[Pmalek]

Bitcoin is useless. Nothing more than a tool for speculative idiots. Satshi who?  What is bitcoin backed by.  We are building a new stablecoin that will be 100% backed by dollars. A currency backed by the worlds largest economy. Unlike useless bitcoin. This is the future.  Reply for more info.

It's because of people like you that there are so many scams in the cryptocurrency niche and many people think bad of it. You are using a Bitcoin forum to badmouth Bitcoin and market your own shitcoin. No one smart enough is going to use that to help you make money. Just close the door after you leave. 

Isn't the first rule of investing to not put all your eggs into one basket? By going only for BTC you would be doing just that.

Your investment portfolio doesn't have to be crypto only. Bitcoin is a big enough crypto basket. That's one egg. Put another egg in real estate. A third one could be in precious stones, stocks, long-term savings, etc.

[soliton]

Greetings,

I just finished reading the Bitcoin Standard and am seriously considering restructuring my crypto portfolio as a result (not solely as a result of the text, but due in large part to it--I have other reasons which revolve around a fear of the effects of gov't regulation on the market). Since late 2017 I have been faithfully DCAing into BTC and 5 other projects that I have been able to research and understand as best I can. I've always been somewhat troubled by the centralized nature of some of these ALTs (ETH, ADA, LINK, DOT, ATOM) relative to BTC, but I invested anyway believing that these particular projects will have a strong role to play in the spheres of smart contracts, DeFi and overall blockchain tech adoption in the economy, generally.

So my thinking is to dump my altcoin holdings for BTC and continue DCAing into BTC only; (also feeling a srong desire to become a node operator in order to do my small part to protect and nurture the network as an aside). Bitcoin was my first love in the world of cryptocurrencies back in 2017 when my brother told me about a somewhat obscure digital form of money trading for a price in the low 4-figures; I dove in immediately based off of his brief description of it to me and a few articles that I had read. Immediately I was drawn in because in my mind it represented an alternative (and a giant FU) to the only real game in town, namely the almighty US dollar which has been in a state of decay for decades as a result of mismanagement. Over the years I have researched further which has only served to reinforce my belief in BTC and what the network stands for. Truly, we are all privileged to be living in a time where such a revolutionary concept has been gifted to humanity.

As for the plethora of altcoins out there, and, in particular, the few that I own, I worry about the long-term future of their viability. At the time of this writing, it seems as if the sky is the limit and these projects are not only growing, but here to stay. However, things aren't always as they seem and I'm starting to wonder if it may be more prudent to dump and invest solely in BTC which I feel provides the most benefit to society and potentially has the most durability.

 Anyways, any feedback is appreciated. Call me a crazy bitcoin maximalist, tell me I'm making the best decision possible or anything in between

I like the allegories used by Lisa N. Edwards who has drown  analogy between   different blockchains and  the roads people drive on and various coins with car they drive on. As she said bitcoin is like a Porshe on that roads while some other alt is like a Prius. Notwithstanding the fact that Prius saves gasoline "more people like Porsches over Prius". So, you are  not "a crazy bitcoin maximalist". You just prefer Porsche over Prius.

[witcher_sense]

I like the allegories used by Lisa N. Edwards who has drown  analogy between   different blockchains and  the roads people drive on and various coins with car they drive on. As she said bitcoin is like a Porshe on that roads while some other alt is like a Prius. Notwithstanding the fact that Prius saves gasoline "more people like Porsches over Prius". So, you are  not "a crazy bitcoin maximalist". You just prefer Porsche over Prius.

I'd put it another way because it is not about coin preference, it's more about time preference and common sense. Those who are into altcoins love talking about profits, Lambos, and Porsches. They are consumerists. For them, the more money they get after dumping their altcoin, the happier they are because that means they now can afford a better car. If you see a person driving a luxury car, he is probably an altcoiner who recently made a ton of money by converting his favorite coin into fiat. Bitcoiners are opposite to consumerism and instant gratification. They would drive a cheap car that saves gasoline only because it would allow them to buy more bitcoins. They prefer to postpone gratification of their needs and not to consume today so that they can consume a lot more in the future. Hence, if you see a man driving his Prius, that probably means he is a bitcoiner who recently dumped a bag of fiat money again to buy more bitcoin.

[n0nce]

Bitcoin is useless. Nothing more than a tool for speculative idiots. Satshi who?  What is bitcoin backed by.  We are building a new stablecoin that will be 100% backed by dollars. A currency backed by the worlds largest economy. Unlike useless bitcoin. This is the future.  Reply for more info.

It's because of people like you that there are so many scams in the cryptocurrency niche and many people think bad of it. You are using a Bitcoin forum to badmouth Bitcoin and market your own shitcoin. No one smart enough is going to use that to help you make money. Just close the door after you leave. 

Imagine wanting to save up money in something that is pegged to the USD in the first place And even if you loved fiat so much, why not just get a couple stacks of fiat money and put them into a vault? There is literally no need or point for getting or using 'USD backed stablecoins'. Just more risk than getting plain actual dollars (breaking of that link).

Isn't the first rule of investing to not put all your eggs into one basket? By going only for BTC you would be doing just that.

Your investment portfolio doesn't have to be crypto only. Bitcoin is a big enough crypto basket. That's one egg. Put another egg in real estate. A third one could be in precious stones, stocks, long-term savings, etc.

That's right; people 'diversifying' by buying various altcoins are like people who 'diversify' by buying different properties. Just because you bought a house and 2 flats, doesn't mean you have diversified. If real estate goes down, all properties go down. If BTC goes down, all the altcoins go down with it.