Sapphire GPU are poorly built? Or just not rugged

[deskless]

what is life of GPUs ?

I got a bunch of 580s that have been working since 2018 and recently switch them off due to space issue. I am thinking whether to sell them or to wait till I get space again for mining. How long these GPUs  can last?

[FloridaKid]

what is life of GPUs ?

I got a bunch of 580s that have been working since 2018 and recently switch them off due to space issue. I am thinking whether to sell them or to wait till I get space again for mining. How long these GPUs  can last?

There we have it, this shows that you care for those GPUs and they served you right, many just care about making dollars out of the GPUs and that is it, no dusting off the dusts that affects cooling, no thermal paste reapplying, no changing thermal pads, of cos the cards will fail faster if they aren't taken care of

[Metroid]

Actually last time I traveled down to China most mining farms I saw are using sapphire model of GPUs the most, maybe your friend bought those GPUs from miners who don't take much care of their GPUs? Or maybe your friend don't care much about the longetivy of the GPUs and start OC too much? I don't see anything wrong with sapphire

All were brand new, maybe like somebody said, specific models, because my friend bought many of a specific model and where I live there is no warranty, so if it breaks then gameover. If warranty was given then no issues, so in many countries shops dont cover any warranty procedure, yes sapphire covers, but you need to send to usa and that costs a lot, more than the gpu itself, plus after it gets back from usa you also needs to pay tax on it hehe, so better leave it broken and be done with it.

[FP91G]

This is how 5 year old video cards work after mining Ethereum. This is the maximum possible downvolt and overclocking, I can add more megahash, but I need stability.
One of the video cards has been dying for six months already, but I picked up a stable BIOS for it. When overclocked, she starts having problems.
This is a sapphire, I changed the thermal paste once, 3 years after the end of the warranty. All coolers are original.

[DrX]

This is how 5 year old video cards work after mining Ethereum. This is the maximum possible downvolt and overclocking, I can add more megahash, but I need stability.
One of the video cards has been dying for six months already, but I picked up a stable BIOS for it. When overclocked, she starts having problems.
This is a sapphire, I changed the thermal paste once, 3 years after the end of the warranty. All coolers are original.

I would try to run those under 60C, usually they start to crash on 65C. Also you could try to drop mem to 2000 or 2030...
Using REF 20?

EDIT: Just checked, i'm running those with 1950 mem, 29,7Mh/s and temp 55C (Ubermix bios with REF 20)

[Zotak337]

This is how 5 year old video cards work after mining Ethereum. This is the maximum possible downvolt and overclocking, I can add more megahash, but I need stability.
One of the video cards has been dying for six months already, but I picked up a stable BIOS for it. When overclocked, she starts having problems.
This is a sapphire, I changed the thermal paste once, 3 years after the end of the warranty. All coolers are original.

I would try to run those under 60C, usually they start to crash on 65C. Also you could try to drop mem to 2000 or 2030...
Using REF 20?

EDIT: Just checked, i'm running those with 1950 mem, 29,7Mh/s and temp 55C (Ubermix bios with REF 20)

Is 65°C that bad for AMD GPUs ? I think they are far more safer at that temp, I have a rx580 that runs on 70°C for years and it still working fine I had to give it out to my nephew and he still do casual gaming on the GPU

[0verseer]

I have never heard someone have a problem with Sapphire's GPU, at least in my circle which most are typical end-user gamers or miners. Heck, when there was a clearance of used mining cards, Sapphire AMD is always the one best selling even if the price is a bit higher than other GPU brands.
And Vega 56, rx580s, and 570s are quite ancient so they're bound to failure since it is way past their prime condition. Let's me give some tips, PSU is the most critical part that you should not cheap out if you want to squeeze out whatever is left of those old GPU cards.

[DrX]

Is 65°C that bad for AMD GPUs ? I think they are far more safer at that temp, I have a rx580 that runs on 70°C for years and it still working fine I had to give it out to my nephew and he still do casual gaming on the GPU

I think the problem usually is the memory temp, not the core, not sure if you can see it on polaris cards, maybe gpu-z?

And of course, it depends on the card, these are just my opinions on Sapphire RX480 Nitro+ cards with samsung memory.

[adaseb]

Here is my experience with Sapphire cards.

The really really old GPUS before 2013, where very solid built. I am talking about the Sapphire Radeon 7950 etc. Then in 2014 they had a bad batch of GPUs. The worst was the Sapphire Dual-X R9 280X. This card had faulty MOSFETs or something. Basically after mining for a few weeks, they all went up in a poof of smoke.

I think the Sapphire Triple Fan R9 280X was more solid built. Anyways the issue I had with the Dual-X was that if you want to RMA you need to ship it overseas. And if you want to RMA you need proof you are the original owner. They require the original bill of sale along with your RMA. Since I bought them second hand, I couldn't RMA any of them and they were all less than a year old.

Since then I never bought any Sapphire cards however I think the RX series and up were more solid built and didn't really hear of any issues with them.

[FP91G]

I would try to run those under 60C, usually they start to crash on 65C. Also you could try to drop mem to 2000 or 2030...
Using REF 20?

EDIT: Just checked, i'm running those with 1950 mem, 29,7Mh/s and temp 55C (Ubermix bios with REF 20)

This is the normal temperature for these cards in the summer. Other cards worked for me in the summer at a temperature of 75 degrees Celsius, because there was poor ventilation in that room.
Despite the errors, the farm is very stable, so I don't want to do anything. I've tried different settings, but these are the most stable ones. It is better not to optimize old video cards, it can take a lot of time, but there will be no result.

[Skinny48]

Gigabyte and zotac has the worst cooling materials on them ( cheap thermal pads) while maxsun and yeston have worst cooling mechanism over all but Msi, Asus, sapphire and others are the first on my list, they never failed me, I'm shocked you said they die easily it depends on how the owner took care if the cards, no matter which brand if care is not taken the cards will die fast

[Metroid]

Gigabyte and zotac has the worst cooling materials on them ( cheap thermal pads) while maxsun and yeston have worst cooling mechanism over all but Msi, Asus, sapphire and others are the first on my list, they never failed me, I'm shocked you said they die easily it depends on how the owner took care if the cards, no matter which brand if care is not taken the cards will die fast

They probably do that to void your warranty with them because they know you will change the crap thermal things and doing so, they will not do do with you, yeah shady business, my take on this is to look for manufactures who puts the best thermal pads, so you dont need to change anything.

[FP91G]

Gigabyte and zotac has the worst cooling materials on them ( cheap thermal pads) while maxsun and yeston have worst cooling mechanism over all but Msi, Asus, sapphire and others are the first on my list, they never failed me, I'm shocked you said they die easily it depends on how the owner took care if the cards, no matter which brand if care is not taken the cards will die fast

I think this is not true. I have 4 year old Gigabyte and zotac graphics cards and they work great. Somewhere I changed some thermal seals, because they deteriorated when removing the cooling system.
Each model has its own problems and here you need to talk specifically. For example, I would not buy MSI MECH or Armor video cards, because this is the worst cooling, and I would buy GAMING with pleasure.

[philipma1957]

Gigabyte and zotac has the worst cooling materials on them ( cheap thermal pads) while maxsun and yeston have worst cooling mechanism over all but Msi, Asus, sapphire and others are the first on my list, they never failed me, I'm shocked you said they die easily it depends on how the owner took care if the cards, no matter which brand if care is not taken the cards will die fast

I think this is not true. I have 4 year old Gigabyte and zotac graphics cards and they work great. Somewhere I changed some thermal seals, because they deteriorated when removing the cooling system.
Each model has its own problems and here you need to talk specifically. For example, I would not buy MSI MECH or Armor video cards, because this is the worst cooling, and I would buy GAMING with pleasure.

My Msi Mech are no where near the quality of my Msi Gaming.

I have some msi 5600 gaming that are likely the best of all my cards for cooling.


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CKDLN91/ref=dp_iou_view_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1


these were great amd cards.

[FP91G]

MSI Gaming has always been the best video card and cost $ 20-30 more. They overclocked well and were more popular with miners than Sapphire. But I have never seen a Sapphire with poor cooling, and this is a huge plus for this graphics card manufacturer. I would not be afraid to buy Sapphire with any cooling.

[Gunday_07]

Gigabyte and zotac has the worst cooling materials on them ( cheap thermal pads) while maxsun and yeston have worst cooling mechanism over all but Msi, Asus, sapphire and others are the first on my list, they never failed me, I'm shocked you said they die easily it depends on how the owner took care if the cards, no matter which brand if care is not taken the cards will die fast

I think this is not true. I have 4 year old Gigabyte and zotac graphics cards and they work great. Somewhere I changed some thermal seals, because they deteriorated when removing the cooling system.
Each model has its own problems and here you need to talk specifically. For example, I would not buy MSI MECH or Armor video cards, because this is the worst cooling, and I would buy GAMING with pleasure.

He is probably judging old zotac cards, zotac just learnt about their mistakes year ago there old GPU has worst cooling pads, I had to change the pads on my zotac 1660 super the pad melted on the chips and I found out they using cheap pads

[CrossroadBTC]

If you having problems with sapphire cards then you got yours from miners who don't take much care of the cards, this is why I don't buy used cards randomly from different sellers, I always make sure I'm getting from people who use the cards for other means and also locally

[adaseb]

Yeah the worst GPU fans are probably Gigabyte. I'd had most of my Gigabyte GPUs with failing or almost failing fans. I used to buy them on Aliexpress however those new ones also failed. They had a very bad design because some of their models featured 3 fans per GPU and even those fans started to all fail and they were all under low loads.

I got so bad that I either basically slapped on a few case fans to cool the GPUs or I just took some dental floss, put it on the fan blades, pulled off the fan to see the bearing and lubricated it from time to time. Did it so many times that I managed to do this while the GPU is inside the rig and mounted vertically. Re oiling the fans made them good for another 90-365 days.

[swogerino]

Yeah the worst GPU fans are probably Gigabyte. I'd had most of my Gigabyte GPUs with failing or almost failing fans. I used to buy them on Aliexpress however those new ones also failed. They had a very bad design because some of their models featured 3 fans per GPU and even those fans started to all fail and they were all under low loads.

I got so bad that I either basically slapped on a few case fans to cool the GPUs or I just took some dental floss, put it on the fan blades, pulled off the fan to see the bearing and lubricated it from time to time. Did it so many times that I managed to do this while the GPU is inside the rig and mounted vertically. Re oiling the fans made them good for another 90-365 days.

I never had problems with Gigabyte fans,usually I had Gigabyte cards only in the Nvidia side mostly as I only have on Rx 5700 xt from the Amd side which is running pretty well.I had a lot of 1070,1070 ti,1060 and 1050 ti in my first mining rigs during 2016-2017 and I still have some of those cards,one Gtx 1050 ti running as my primary card in my workstation,mining perfectly Ethereum Classic with 58 degree Celsius and doing so from quite some time.I had problems only with the ASUS brand which may sound strange to many people here but a lot of Rx 580 with triple fan died to early.

[senyorito123]

Avoid used sapphire GPUs, I don't know how this GPUs are made but they die easily after few years , this have happened to me with GPUs like Vega 56, rx580s and 570s, stay away from sapphire cards

On my experience as a pc technician, sapphire was only good for software applications but not really effective with mining because of its poor quality. Better switch to other expensive one that has good performance and most efficient. We can't force everybody to stop using it, but at least we're reminding them for their own benefit.