Sapphire GPU are poorly built? Or just not rugged

[HardCore12V]

Every GPU makers have bad versions of GPUs, for example zotac have different versions of gtx1660, I have two types of the GPU same name same brand but different cooling method, one is good and one is bad, it's same with MSI cards, some are poorly build while some are better

[FP91G]

Avoid used sapphire GPUs, I don't know how this GPUs are made but they die easily after few years , this have happened to me with GPUs like Vega 56, rx580s and 570s, stay away from sapphire cards

On my experience as a pc technician, sapphire was only good for software applications but not really effective with mining because of its poor quality. Better switch to other expensive one that has good performance and most efficient. We can't force everybody to stop using it, but at least we're reminding them for their own benefit.

And where did you get such statistics?
From your experience?
And how is the use of software applications different from mining, if, for example, I will use these video cards in software for guessing passwords?
A professional always speaks in detail about each device model, and does not say that all products are crap.

[senyorito123]

Avoid used sapphire GPUs, I don't know how this GPUs are made but they die easily after few years , this have happened to me with GPUs like Vega 56, rx580s and 570s, stay away from sapphire cards

On my experience as a pc technician, sapphire was only good for software applications but not really effective with mining because of its poor quality. Better switch to other expensive one that has good performance and most efficient. We can't force everybody to stop using it, but at least we're reminding them for their own benefit.

And where did you get such statistics?
From your experience?
And how is the use of software applications different from mining, if, for example, I will use these video cards in software for guessing passwords?
A professional always speaks in detail about each device model, and does not say that all products are crap.

I'm not that professional about specific details and all those ideas I said based only on experiences. Technically for other applications like guessing something or deeper, I don't tackle any of those because I'm not into deeper applications. I'm more focused on hardware set-up and servicing that's why I gave my opinions related to Op's subject.

[FP91G]

Avoid used sapphire GPUs, I don't know how this GPUs are made but they die easily after few years , this have happened to me with GPUs like Vega 56, rx580s and 570s, stay away from sapphire cards

On my experience as a pc technician, sapphire was only good for software applications but not really effective with mining because of its poor quality. Better switch to other expensive one that has good performance and most efficient. We can't force everybody to stop using it, but at least we're reminding them for their own benefit.

And where did you get such statistics?
From your experience?
And how is the use of software applications different from mining, if, for example, I will use these video cards in software for guessing passwords?
A professional always speaks in detail about each device model, and does not say that all products are crap.

I'm not that professional about specific details and all those ideas I said based only on experiences. Technically for other applications like guessing something or deeper, I don't tackle any of those because I'm not into deeper applications. I'm more focused on hardware set-up and servicing that's why I gave my opinions related to Op's subject.

Man, don't be upset with me, but I'm an engineer too. If I tell my colleagues that sapphire is shit, I might get beat up
I can say that MSI Armor and MECH have poor cooling, Palit Dual has poor cooling, Asus OC also has poor cooling.
The shittiest OC I've written is Armor. I won't talk about gigabytes, because here we need to talk about models.

Gaming, mining, rendering, password guessing are different calculation algorithms for a video card, but I still don't understand why sapphire is only suitable for software applications?

Why are these graphics cards of poor quality? What's not to like: Cooling system, power system, thermal pads... etc?

If you share your experience, tell us specifically about the problem?

[Lucky - Luciano]

Unfortunately I also have a bad experience with the Sapphire RX480 8 GB Nitro models. Out of 24 of those cards, 4 pieces died for me. I maintained them regularly, blew them with a compressor, put the best thermal paste "Thermal grizzly kryonaut", I have a very high quality and reliable power supply. I am very disappointed. So I went back to MSI again. Now I only use the MSI 5700XT Gaming-X series graphics cards . I used to have several MSI 7950 Twin Frozr IIIs and have been mining with them for years. None of them ever died. Fans did go, but graphics cards never did.

[FP91G]

Unfortunately I also have a bad experience with the Sapphire RX480 8 GB Nitro models. Out of 24 of those cards, 4 pieces died for me. I maintained them regularly, blew them with a compressor, put the best thermal paste "Thermal grizzly kryonaut", I have a very high quality and reliable power supply. I am very disappointed. So I went back to MSI again. Now I only use the MSI 5700XT Gaming-X series graphics cards . I used to have several MSI 7950 Twin Frozr IIIs and have been mining with them for years. None of them ever died. Fans did go, but graphics cards never did.

And what is the reason? These video cards have a 3-year warranty. Did they break in the first 3 years or after?
Various models broke down for me, but I even got a profit from this, because the store returned the money to me.
I have a lot of Sapphire 5600 XT  and these GPUs are the best.

[havock5927]

I have 6 Sapphire nitro plus - rx 580. Since 2017 up to now running ETH smoothly with any issue all BIOS mod
with 33.5Mh/s each card

[adaseb]

Unfortunately I also have a bad experience with the Sapphire RX480 8 GB Nitro models. Out of 24 of those cards, 4 pieces died for me. I maintained them regularly, blew them with a compressor, put the best thermal paste "Thermal grizzly kryonaut", I have a very high quality and reliable power supply. I am very disappointed. So I went back to MSI again. Now I only use the MSI 5700XT Gaming-X series graphics cards . I used to have several MSI 7950 Twin Frozr IIIs and have been mining with them for years. None of them ever died. Fans did go, but graphics cards never did.

How did they die on you exactly? Did something blow up OR did you just get a BSOD on bootup?

If you got the BSOD or they started to crash on cold start... I think I know what happened.

Most likely since you said you replaced the thermal paste, you might of pulled a little too hard when seperating from heatsink and created micro-cracks. At first you don't get issue because they are small. However on every heat cycle, the cracks get larger and larger. Eventually one day when you stop mining to do a reboot, it crashes all of a sudden or fails to boot or you get BSOD. Then you find out the GPU is dead.

I also killed a few of my GPUs this way. Now i never do the thermal paste job unless the GPU is less than a year old.

[Lucky - Luciano]

Unfortunately I also have a bad experience with the Sapphire RX480 8 GB Nitro models. Out of 24 of those cards, 4 pieces died for me. I maintained them regularly, blew them with a compressor, put the best thermal paste "Thermal grizzly kryonaut", I have a very high quality and reliable power supply. I am very disappointed. So I went back to MSI again. Now I only use the MSI 5700XT Gaming-X series graphics cards . I used to have several MSI 7950 Twin Frozr IIIs and have been mining with them for years. None of them ever died. Fans did go, but graphics cards never did.

How did they die on you exactly? Did something blow up OR did you just get a BSOD on bootup?

If you got the BSOD or they started to crash on cold start... I think I know what happened.

Most likely since you said you replaced the thermal paste, you might of pulled a little too hard when seperating from heatsink and created micro-cracks. At first you don't get issue because they are small. However on every heat cycle, the cracks get larger and larger. Eventually one day when you stop mining to do a reboot, it crashes all of a sudden or fails to boot or you get BSOD. Then you find out the GPU is dead.

I also killed a few of my GPUs this way. Now i never do the thermal paste job unless the GPU is less than a year old.

I didn't change the paste then. One piece died in operation and 3 pieces died after blowing with a compressor (I blew them regularly until then, every 3 months). All pieces died after the 3-year warranty expired and not all died at once. For example, one would die today, the other after a month - 2 months and so on. They do not give any video signal, the fans do not turn. It's not a GPU failure, that's what the master told me. He fixed all the graphics cards and says there were several breakdowns on each.

[senyorito123]

Avoid used sapphire GPUs, I don't know how this GPUs are made but they die easily after few years , this have happened to me with GPUs like Vega 56, rx580s and 570s, stay away from sapphire cards

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I'm not that professional about specific details and all those ideas I said based only on experiences. Technically for other applications like guessing something or deeper, I don't tackle any of those because I'm not into deeper applications. I'm more focused on hardware set-up and servicing that's why I gave my opinions related to Op's subject.

Man, don't be upset with me, but I'm an engineer too. If I tell my colleagues that sapphire is shit, I might get beat up
I can say that MSI Armor and MECH have poor cooling, Palit Dual has poor cooling, Asus OC also has poor cooling.
The shittiest OC I've written is Armor. I won't talk about gigabytes, because here we need to talk about models.

Gaming, mining, rendering, password guessing are different calculation algorithms for a video card, but I still don't understand why sapphire is only suitable for software applications?

Why are these graphics cards of poor quality? What's not to like: Cooling system, power system, thermal pads... etc?

If you share your experience, tell us specifically about the problem?

There's nothing to be upset man, I respected what's your reaction for this matter about specific problems I experienced. Sorry to tell I just base all those statements I said from my customers who let me fix their personal computers, because most of them was used in gaming and internet cafe's before pandemic days. It's a long enumeration if I would specify those previous concerns I got, but anyways big thanks for you.