Fall of Afghanistan Or Rise OF Afghanistan

[virasog]

Afghanistan has WON the war against the Super Power USA and is now under freedom. USA has faced the worst defeat despite being a super power.
20 years of struggle has come to life now.

But International media is using the headlines "FALL OF Afghanistan " ?  Is it not the RISE OF Afghanistan

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[mu_enrico]

Taliban is a terrorist organization. It means they govern using terror, not with peaceful consensus. Try to criticize/oppose Taliban and you will get insta-killed.
Freedom doesn't exist under such organization, since they will form tyrannical (nasty) government.

[Cnut237]

Afghanistan has WON the war against the Super Power USA

The Taliban is not Afghanistan. It's a terrorist movement that enforce brutal Sharia law. Here's a bit of background:
https://news.sky.com/story/afghanistan-what-is-sharia-law-and-how-has-the-taliban-interpreted-it-12383974

and is now under freedom.

Try telling that to the 50% of the population that are female. Or indeed to anyone who has to live there and is not a rabid fundamentalist zealot. Quote from the link above.

Taliban interpretation of Sharia law

The Taliban was condemned internationally for enforcing a strict and extreme version of Sharia law during its rule from 1996 to 2001, which included administering punishments such as public stonings, whippings and hangings.

The militant group also banned music and musical instruments, with the exception of the daf - a type of frame drum - and cut off the hands of thieves and stoned adulterers.

Along with their allies, they committed massacres against Afghan civilians, denied UN food supplies to 160,000 starving people, and conducted a policy of scorched earth - burning vast areas of fertile land and destroying tens of thousands of homes.

Under the Taliban's ruling, activities and media including paintings, photography and movies that depicted people or other living things were banned.

Many Afghans fear the Taliban will reimpose this harsh interpretation of Islamic law - leading to thousands of people trying to flee the country.

Impact on Afghan women

Under the Taliban's rule, women were effectively put under house arrest as they were not allowed to work or have an education.

Women and girls from the age of eight had to wear a burka and had to be chaperoned by a male relative if they wanted to leave their home.

High-heeled shoes were also banned in case they excited men, homes with windows on the ground and first floor had to be painted over and women were forbidden to go on their balconies.

Photographing, filming or displaying pictures of females in newspapers, books, shops or the home was not allowed, place names that had "women" in were changed and women were banned from appearing on radio, TV or at public gatherings.

Women who disobeyed the rules, even if they had no male relatives to go outside with, were flogged in the street or in stadiums and town halls.

Women had their thumb tips cut off for wearing nail varnish and were stoned to death if they refused to declare loyalty to the Taliban. Anyone who broke the rules could be subject to humiliation, public beatings by the Taliban's religious police or execution.

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Taliban is a terrorist organization. It means they govern using terror, not with peaceful consensus. Try to criticize/oppose Taliban and you will get insta-killed.
Freedom doesn't exist under such organization, since they will form tyrannical (nasty) government.

you mean peaceful consent like here ?



and the recent bioterrorism forced injection where is the consent? where are you from? A us embassy or what?

911 wtc 7 , where are the talibans?

[mu_enrico]

where are you from? A us embassy or what?

I fuck your mother last night and now you forget my face?

you mean peaceful consent like here ?

No, like where when the legislature makes law, that is a peaceful consensus in my opinion.

and the recent bioterrorism forced injection where is the consent?

I think mandatory vaccination is a mistake. Anyway, but in the event the government becomes tyrannical, the people can protest in the streets, and putting pressure to change the law. Conversely, when Taliban makes stupid decisions, you think people will dare to protest?

[Cnut237]

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Aren't you supposed to be banned for death threats or some shit like that, or was it some other similarly deluded dimwit.

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your boss ?



or working for paski circle back ? you are moronically pathetic occupiers.

[LTU_btc]

Serious stuff, OP, but better please back to reality. Taliban is terrorist organization. Do you really expect that life in Afghanistan will get better, they will live peacfully and human rights will be respected. Well, personally I doubt about it, but time will tell.
For me it's enough to see how Afghanistan people reacted to it and what was going on in airport. They were trying to leave country at any cost.

[jrrsparkles]

Us bank seized 9.75 BN worth of Afghanistan assets to stop the Taliban (terrorist organization) from accessing it and also other banks will do the same for sure which means the economy of Afghanistan is nomore unless China takes the complete burden and give enough money to them.

And if this is the rise of the country then why people are scared and running away from the country by holding the wheels of airplanes?

[Mauser]

Afghanistan has WON the war against the Super Power USA and is now under freedom. USA has faced the worst defeat despite being a super power.
20 years of struggle has come to life now.

But International media is using the headlines "FALL OF Afghanistan " ?  Is it not the RISE OF Afghanistan

It is maybe the rise of the Taliban again, but definitely not of Afghanistan. The Taliban got all the new weapons and equipment from USA and are happy now. But for the average population in Afghanistan its a disaster. All the international NGOs who where there to help Afghanistan to develop will leave again. There won't be much support from the outside now.

[sapnu]

Afghanistan has WON the war against the Super Power USA and is now under freedom. USA has faced the worst defeat despite being a super power.
20 years of struggle has come to life now.

But International media is using the headlines "FALL OF Afghanistan " ?  Is it not the RISE OF Afghanistan

The recent news about the downfall of Afghanistan's government was shown that it is something that harms many although it might have ended up through murders at some point. It can also be clearly observed the fear and the terror as many citizens forced to fly out of the country to the point that there are some who died from falling in an airplane. It is actually something that can be considered confusing, what is really the purpose of the terrorists, is it really for the betterment of the country or are they just trying to claim power over it. The media never fails to confuse us nevertheless, I hope everyone in there will stay safe and can return to their normal live with the absence of fear and deaths.

[Jet Cash]

They have got massive reserves of lithium. So China and Russia are moving in.
The USA has lost out big time.

[5thFear]

That is a good point. But it is always the case. With the fall of one, the rise of other starts. But i think Afghanistan is good for taking down of Nations, It might not rise like some other nations e.g, USA, China, Russia,.. Afghanistan don't have some key fundamentals to make it a super power. And those are Rivers, Ocean, agriculture land.. It has to be dependent alot on Pakistan for all these. Its most fruits and vegetables are imported from Pakistan and some other neighbouring countries. For access to Ocean, it has to go through either Pakistan or Iran.

[teosanru]

Afghanistan has WON the war against the Super Power USA and is now under freedom. USA has faced the worst defeat despite being a super power.
20 years of struggle has come to life now.

But International media is using the headlines "FALL OF Afghanistan " ?  Is it not the RISE OF Afghanistan

Even though I have believed in the popular quote that someone's terrorist is someone's freedom fighter, so in a way, the Taliban are right in fighting for their land. But the truth is slightly different here. The facts of the case are :

1. Taliban is a small set of militant organization which doesn't represent all the communities of Afghanistan, it's just the ideology of a few Muslims and doesn't even have any history to boast about in fact they came into existence in just 1990.

2. Afghanistan's indigenous people have no feeling of statehood or nationhood. They are split into very small tribes and villages leaving quite distant from each other which means they really don't share any common belief except religion. So technically they don't even want an independent Afghanistan, all they want is peace in their daily lives. This was a big reason that their army didn't even try to stop the Taliban.

3. Taliban are really orthodox and violent in their means, even worse than North Korea, which means there is "no independence in substance" people are now the slaves of a man holding gun.

4. USA obviously wasn't right in their approach and really did funded these Taliban in the first place during the Cold War, but their intent has always been quite clear, it was always the vengeance of 9/11 and never the re-establishment of Afghanistan. But yet it's true that they won the battle but lost the war.

5. Even after Taliban in action there will be no rise in Afghanistan, there will be absolutely zero development under this regime and chances are the country could become a safe heaven for terrorists once again.

[inoes]

Fall of Afghanistan?
Because the civil war in Afghanistan makes people suffer.  UNHCR says nearly 400,000 Afghans have been forced to flee their homes since the start of this year.  
Previously, there were 2.9 million Afghan refugees residing in various countries.  And in the end the conflict in Afghanistan not only caused a human tragedy.  In the economic aspect, Afghanistan is also expected to be hit.  
Most of the state's income is from grant funds.  If the Taliban is in power, donors from various countries are reluctant to provide further assistance.

[tabas]

You're looking at it at the wrong side my friend. Taliban is also using the media to make them look good. They have expressed their desire to conquer not just Afghanistan but the entire world just as what the other groups and countries doing.
The reaction and acts of the Afghans are already portraying words with those videos circulating world wide. They were terrified when the Taliban already stepped to their presidential palace.

[realcrypto]

For me it is the rise of Afghanistan, there is and adage that says you can only take a cow to the River but you cannot force the cow to drink water. U.S cannot force peace and westernization on Afghanistan so let the citizens adjust to those strict sharia laws and see it as their fate. They will eventually become unique in their lifestyle. U.S should also release their money, it is affecting the poor masses as well.

[syedakhlaque]

The History of afghans shows that they are warlike and brave. No foreign rule could get domination over them for centuries. Even superpowers of the time like Britsh, Russia, and even America cannot overcome them. After a great financial loss, They have to leave the country. Fight and war are in the nature of afghanis. But time is a great master. It learns a lot about everyone. After observing the initials of the Taliban in Afghanistan it can be said that Afghan will now work for restoration and reconstruction of Afghanistan. Now having the experiment of past, the Taliban will work together. It is hoped that Afghanistan will rise. And the people of Afghanistan will take a sigh of relief.

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Afghanistan has WON the war against the Super Power USA and is now under freedom. USA has faced the worst defeat despite being a super power.
20 years of struggle has come to life now.

But International media is using the headlines "FALL OF Afghanistan " ?  Is it not the RISE OF Afghanistan

the LIBERATION of Afghanistan, it can still fall to rise again as the future is untold but to God himself .