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August 24, 2021, 05:38:00 AM
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Definitely, I mean, less fortunate people tend to take risk in order to make quick buck or a chance to a jackpot. They realize that there money to be make on gambling on poorer areas soI am not surprised that they decided to set casinos there. They are businessman and for them profit comes first.

Then they are not less fortunate people. Casinos established a business there meaning it's profitable despite being a deprived area and more people are attracted to the business. They have money to play and gamble on it.

And maybe it's cheaper to start a business there compare to the capital as the areas are not that established.

But searching the internet, the poor areas in the UK still have a good look and you won't think there are lots of poor there. Still beautiful compare to poor areas in other countries like here lol.

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August 24, 2021, 05:52:48 AM
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It's normal I think it's the same for all nation's of the world it's always the poorest regions with less taxation that has the highest number of gambling centers since the government mostly pays lesser attention to those areas and the cost of renting a venue for their gambling business is cheaper compared to urban cities
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August 24, 2021, 05:57:03 AM
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It's normal I think it's the same for all nation's of the world it's always the poorest regions with less taxation that has the highest number of gambling centers since the government mostly pays lesser attention to those areas and the cost of renting a venue for their gambling business is cheaper compared to urban cities

In a way it is nice as well if we have some in those regions since people will travel to that place to play and in that case the upliftment or the employment of those areas increases be it in way of restaurant, hotel industry, travel cabs etc and those provides more opportunities to locals.

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August 24, 2021, 07:25:41 AM
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Because the poor people are the most that gamble and waste their money on gambling the most, remember that around 90% of lottery players come from the poor neighborhood so it's not surprising that gambling areas are near those neighborhood.
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August 24, 2021, 08:41:25 AM
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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.
Here you are talking about 20% which must be not that significant compared to the rest of 80% gambling venues, right? When I first start reading this, 20% at poorest part means what about the percentage of wealthiest people's regions. Does that survey have anything in-between poor and wealthy category? When one category (poor) part is having 20% then it seems to me like a normal thing regardless of what other parts are doing (overall, I feel like there should be some error on this study or this study should be talking about uniform distribution of gambling houses among rich and poor parts of UK but definitely not about targeting poor, it seems).

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August 24, 2021, 08:50:58 AM
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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

I think the business owners really know their shit.

They know you can only get poorer by gambling so they don't target the rich people because they are rich because they ain't dumb to play too much.

Instead they target the poor people because they are dumb and dumb people play more and more and keep getting poorer.

It is a brilliant business decision.

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August 24, 2021, 09:23:00 AM
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I think the business owners really know their shit.

They know you can only get poorer by gambling so they don't target the rich people because they are rich because they ain't dumb to play too much.

Instead, they target the poor people because they are dumb and dumb people play more and more and keep getting poorer.

It is a brilliant business decision.

It's something I heard a long time ago, casinos are making more profit from small gamblers who are always trying to make a big profit, and that simply rarely happens. So I am not surprised with this report, poor people wish to get rich and casinos provide the chance for that... Just in the reality, these people are losing from day to day that little what they have.
For sure casinos knows what's good for their business, would be stupid if they don't.

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August 24, 2021, 09:25:51 AM
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Because the poor people are the most that gamble and waste their money on gambling the most, remember that around 90% of lottery players come from the poor neighborhood so it's not surprising that gambling areas are near those neighborhood.
Exactly, gambling gives the illusion of getting out of poverty in just a matter of one bet or gamble in something, that's why most poor people gamble because they want to get a good life. Of course this isn't true since gambling is designed to take your money and not give it to you. Another reason is that people don't have anything better to do so they pass the time through gambling.

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August 24, 2021, 09:38:52 AM
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I think this is the same everywhere in the world though, and even in countries where it's illegal, you find the underground ones the most in poor cities and rural towns where the police don't really do anything because there's no hi speed internet or other forms of entertainment.

I think also we have to know what they count.

A scratchcard shop (considered gambling) in a poor town is not the same as a roulette machine in the city right?

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August 24, 2021, 10:01:06 AM
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Exactly, gambling gives the illusion of getting out of poverty in just a matter of one bet or gamble in something, that's why most poor people gamble because they want to get a good life. Of course this isn't true since gambling is designed to take your money and not give it to you. Another reason is that people don't have anything better to do so they pass the time through gambling.
That's the word that I was looking for, illusion. What you say is true and I think that the people at the top is going to want to keep it that way because they benefit in this kind of scheme the most and they have the utmost control. Haven't considered that some poor don't have any better past times but it seems fitting why they are the most people in the strata that gambles.
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August 24, 2021, 10:24:41 AM
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This is just another attempt to get gambling banned by the anti-gambling lobby. Sometimes I wonder why these lobby losers don't do a job for a living. The real reason is that it is always easier to set up casinos and gambling joints in the poor areas, as the rent is low and manpower is available in sufficient quantities. Casinos actually help the people in these areas, by providing them with direct and indirect employment. If we listen to the anti-gambling nutjobs, then these people will lose their jobs and will be forced to beg on the street. Perhaps that is exactly what they want.
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August 24, 2021, 10:35:52 AM
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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The poor being targeted, no doubt about that. Why? Because they are less educated, and thus they can believe in various "winning strategies" and stuff,  and play endlessly generating the profit for the owners of gambling venues. But that's not all. I suspect that those gambling outlets are of such quality that it would be pointless to put them in the rich areas, few people would play there.

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August 24, 2021, 10:45:48 AM
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You are indeed correct. The poor is being targeted. It's not because the rent is cheaper, they can always make up for that if they badly want their business to be planted. Why put it in the wealthiest venue if they know they are not going to spend more and they will just use casinos as just a meeting place or for a little pleasure. While the poor will use gambling as means of risking more for a chance to be rich.
That's all the reason behind it and they are just using the cheap rent for an excuse.

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August 24, 2021, 11:12:14 AM
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Targeting the poor? maybe, but it could be why many gambling venues are located in poor areas because the number of poor people is more than the rich so it takes a lot of venues to accommodate those who love to gamble, or it could be the reason because of rental fees or the salaries of employees who also inexpensive.
I don't know about the UK, but is it possible because regulators in poor areas are corrupt officials and receive a lot of money from the gambling industry in their area? so there are many gambling venues there.

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August 24, 2021, 11:53:50 AM
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okay let say its cheap to build a business on that areas but what if theres only less people that will gamble due to thier state of living ?
being poor doesnt always mean that they are also poor to think of how to manage thier wealth .
if i were them i will position in central areas where its closer to rich people because there will be that will gamble offline more than online .
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August 24, 2021, 12:34:31 PM
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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report
Casinos target everyone, there is no difference between the rich and poor except their betting money. Probably they think that rich people are busy so they may not be spending time for that and you only covered 22% then where the remaining 78% of the casinos are located?

It will be obvious in a place where middle class people are living more and they are the target for most of the business in this world.
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August 24, 2021, 12:50:14 PM
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I think that according to social formulas, poor people are more prone to gambling addiction, and they part with their money more easily trying to win and get rich from gambling... Probably the poor areas do not have expensive casinos like in Las Vegas, but ordinary beggarly bars with slot machines... And of course you're right about the cheap rent... it's not profitable to keep a cheap casino in an expensive district...

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August 24, 2021, 12:58:09 PM
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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

That makes totally sense for me and as sad as it sounds it is also pretty logical. This kinda reminds me of the statistics of smoking too. I recently read that, at least in germany, smoking becomes more and more a habit of the lower social classes. Which maybe seems pretty odd at first because as far as i know one pack of cigarettes costs around 6€ in germany so if you smoke 1 pack a day you have to spend 180€ a month only for your smoking habit, which is a huge amount of money especially for poorer people and still a much bigger share of them are regular smokers in comparison to people of normal or high wealth. So i would say just take care of your self and make sure that you are not one of those poor people that is already in need of money but still throws away their last nickel with gambling. Only gamble if you can afford to do so.
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August 24, 2021, 01:34:31 PM
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I think that according to social formulas, poor people are more prone to gambling addiction, and they part with their money more easily trying to win and get rich from gambling... Probably the poor areas do not have expensive casinos like in Las Vegas, but ordinary beggarly bars with slot machines... And of course you're right about the cheap rent... it's not profitable to keep a cheap casino in an expensive district...

I don't read much about the stats but I know that UK indeed has a high rank in terms of gambling industry. Many people on UK was doing gambling so maybe the area is just strategic for gamblers besides on the point you mention above. UK has a lot of gambler residents so you can have a lot of customer wherever you put the casino location or maybe Casino was already established on that area before poor people live around it.

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August 24, 2021, 01:52:15 PM
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Maybe they have a bigger percentage of players in the poorest part of the country. It's also more convenient and cheaper for them to hold a gambling event in the poorest areas. We also know that poorer people are more into gambling than lots of rich people because they're hoping that gambling could change their lives.
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