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August 24, 2021, 06:18:21 AM
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I just downloaded the android version of electrum to try it out. It is extremely slow and would usually get stuck when clicking "next" or "cancel" is it really this bad or is it just my phone? I am currently Using Poco x3 NFC with 6gb ram 64gb storage.

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August 24, 2021, 06:28:33 AM
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I believe it is directly related to the device it is on. I have used electrum on multiple mobile phones and each time it gets progressively slower the lower the RAM and ROM storage get.

I am currently Using Poco x3 NFC with 6gb ram 64gb storage.
However, in my little experience for this device type, it should just be a minor inconvenience rather than a big issue, except maybe when compared to much more powerful devices.

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August 24, 2021, 07:03:02 AM
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Excuse me what functions are available in electrum that's not general on other android wallets today? Why electrum in 2021 where we have better crypto mobile wallets today? Avoid the hassle and download metamask app or trust wallet on your phone

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August 24, 2021, 07:04:30 AM
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Hm, I am using Electrum on my phone for quite some time, and haven't experienced any issues. I have Samsung Galaxy Note 10 which is a little bit older phone than your Poco x3 and not significantly stronger and its working smoothly.

Since Poco x3 has decent hardware, maybe try to clean it up a little bit. From my experience Xiaomi devices slow down soon after purchasing, but still it shouldn't be that bad as its still a relatively new phone.

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August 24, 2021, 07:35:21 AM
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In my past experience, though I sometimes recommend the desktop version, Electrum on mobile simply just sucks unfortunately. Use better wallets such as BlueWallet[1] or Samourai[2] instead.


[1] https://bluewallet.io/
[2] https://samouraiwallet.com/

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August 24, 2021, 07:40:59 AM
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I rebooted my phone and downloaded it again and it seems that it is running normal now. My internal storage was almost full when I downloaded it maybe it affected the app(I am not sure). Anyway, thanks for the inputs.

Excuse me what functions are available in electrum that's not general on other android wallets today? Why electrum in 2021 where we have better crypto mobile wallets today? Avoid the hassle and download metamask app or trust wallet on your phone
I have an existing electrum wallet on my PC and at the moment I can't access my PC so I have to use the mobile version to make a transaction.

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August 24, 2021, 07:44:00 AM
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I have an existing electrum wallet on my PC and at the moment I can't access my PC so I have to use the mobile version to make a transaction.

Just a heads up: You can use other Bitcoin wallets because your PC's wallet backup is pretty much compatible with most wallets in general(mobile or desktop).

https://bluewallet.io/
https://samouraiwallet.com/

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August 24, 2021, 07:48:03 AM
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I just downloaded the android version of electrum to try it out. It is extremely slow and would usually get stuck when clicking "next" or "cancel" is it really this bad or is it just my phone? I am currently Using Poco x3 NFC with 6gb ram 64gb storage.
Poco x3 NFC is using Android 10, I upgraded my phone like two months ago to Android 10 and Electrum wallet latest version which I am using works perfectly. Only what I know is that after you click on the wallet to open, it can take up to 5 to 10 seconds before it will open, but after that, no issue. Also, if you have just want to generate a new wallet like what you are complaining about now, it can be a bit slow to bring out your seed phrase while also click back can be a bit slower (but while click back) do not click back, just wait and let it generate you the seed phrase, it will work perfect.

In my past experience, though I sometimes recommend the desktop version, Electrum on mobile simply just sucks unfortunately. Use better wallets such as BlueWallet[1] or Samourai[2] instead.

[1] https://bluewallet.io/
[2] https://samouraiwallet.com/
With what I have experienced, Electrum mobile wallet on Android is also good, just that the desktop Electrum is far better by having more feature like coin control and signing a message with an address, but no issue at all to still use it on Android if not having computer, but the person must be careful of attackers because it is easy to attack mobile device than desktop and also to be careful of online attackers.

About BlueWallet, I downloaded it some weeks ago, what I like about the wallet is the easy means to make use of lightning network, but yet not what should be that hard on Electrum.

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August 24, 2021, 08:35:33 AM
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In my past experience, though I sometimes recommend the desktop version, Electrum on mobile simply just sucks unfortunately. Use better wallets such as BlueWallet[1] or Samourai[2] instead.


[1] https://bluewallet.io/
[2] https://samouraiwallet.com/
Samourai wallet brings back sad memories 😓 honestly, I was a newbie then and I made a transaction to another wallet, this samourai wallet send out small amount of BTC and use large amount of BTC as gas fee, it literally did something I never sent it to do, the miner must be so happy

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Just a heads up: You can use other Bitcoin wallets because your PC's wallet backup is pretty much compatible with most wallets in general(mobile or desktop)
I never knew that. glad to learn something new. and thanks! I'll keep that in mind.

Samourai wallet brings back sad memories 😓 honestly, I was a newbie then and I made a transaction to another wallet, this samourai wallet send out small amount of BTC and use large amount of BTC as gas fee, it literally did something I never sent it to do, the miner must be so happy
could it be that you forgot to change the recommended fee? it is a common mistake a newbie does. I've seen people post here in the forum about ridiculous fee for a small amount of transaction

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August 24, 2021, 09:58:21 AM
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I will recommend Electrum wallet.

Samourai wallet brings back sad memories  honestly, I was a newbie then and I made a transaction to another wallet, this samourai wallet send out small amount of BTC and use large amount of BTC as gas fee, it literally did something I never sent it to do, the miner must be so happy
You can customize the fee by editing it, some wallets do not have good fee estimation, but your case can be as a result of congested mempool and using the standard fee. Samourai support RBF, you can first use low fee and then increase the fee of the unconfirmed transaction.

Make use of mempool observer for accurate fee estimation

For beginners: https://mempool.space
For advanced users: https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,24h,weight

This compilation will help you know more about how to take advantage of low fee

Transactions (Compilation for newbies)

Lastly, if you enable ricochet on Samourai wallet, such transaction is not a normal transaction, the transaction will be consisted of many hops of your choice before the Bitcoin sent will finally reach destination (recipient) address.

Samourai Wallet charges 0.002 BTC + normal miner fees for every 4- hop Ricochet transaction.

The fee is automatically paid by your wallet as part of the Ricochet transaction. You will be asked to review and accept the total fee before confirming the send.

I do not know much about cashoot, but for normal transaction, do not enable ricochet and cashoot, and you can customize (edit) the fee.

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August 24, 2021, 11:03:50 AM
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I just downloaded the android version of electrum to try it out. It is extremely slow and would usually get stuck when clicking "next" or "cancel" is it really this bad or is it just my phone? I am currently Using Poco x3 NFC with 6gb ram 64gb storage.
It could be the case of slower internet connection or you need to clean up your phone system, and I don't think that phone specs are causing this issue.

Maybe you should try other open source wallets like BlueWallet (that is probably better than Electrum) or Mycellium (has ads I don't like), and see if there is any difference in performance.

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I can't with good conscious recommend using a wallet on any mobile device that isn't running a custom operating system. Google, and Apple have far too many closed sourced pieces in their software, and that's a privacy concern, regardless whether the applications work or not. Mobile phones are also increasingly being targeted for malware, and in some instances they can be easier to attack, because of the way users use their phone.

 However, for your question; the app will have both software, and hardware limitations. Some software isn't optimised for certain hardware, even though it might be exceeding the minimum hardware requirements. As a developer, it's impossible to test your software for every piece of hardware out there so they will rely on bug reports, and app diagnostics.
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Just a heads up: You can use other Bitcoin wallets because your PC's wallet backup is pretty much compatible with most wallets in general(mobile or desktop).

https://bluewallet.io/
https://samouraiwallet.com/
Electrum seed phrases are not compatible with most wallets. In fact, there are very few wallets which will successfully restore Electrum seed phrases. Blue Wallet is one of them, but I'm pretty sure Samourai won't (unless they've implemented that feature recently).

just that the desktop Electrum is far better by having more feature like coin control and signing a message with an address
Yeah, it is a big omission from the mobile version that it does not have coin control. As a imperfect work around, you can click on the Settings icon and then on Addresses, and freeze individual addresses in your wallet which you don't want to spend from. If you only use each address once, then this is the same as freezing individual UTXOs.
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I use same phone, although I don't use electrum I feel lagginess in other apps after the last update (12.0.2), I have other problems with miui as well, from now on I will stick with stock android.

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Imo the app is quite slow when compared with others. I think the initial loading screen is slow on a lot of apps.

A bad phone just will crash or go extremely slowly but I do have 8gb ram and a strong CPU in mine so I think it's just that. I seem to find apps that use the Internet to load take longer than those that don't - but that could just be my experience.

(edit: my slowness could be caused by having a lot of wallets on my device).
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I don't face any such issues with Electrum in Android apart from the sync which takes few seconds even when the internet speed is at extreme high speed. Maybe your problems will be sorted out in the next update amd if you have any other device try and let us know do you still have the same issue.









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I rebooted my phone and downloaded it again and it seems that it is running normal now. My internal storage was almost full when I downloaded it maybe it affected the app(I am not sure). Anyway, thanks for the inputs.

It sometimes happens to me with my Samsung phone even on other apps it's slow down when the memory is full I think that is why it's running normally now it's because restarting the phone will help to clear up all running apps in the background.

I think new phones have a built-in tool that can clean up memory like mine I can go to device care and click memory then tap the clean button to clean up all running apps on the background. So it doesn't need to reboot the phone. You can try that on your Poco phone.



I search a bit on youtube it seems you can find that tool under settings>about to clear up some space and memory.
Here's the youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UErSTNhFyiE

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If you want user Electrum in Pc then it highly recommended. But for the phone I had also a bad user experience before. I installed couple of time electrum in phone. But Always I forced to uninstalled due to slow, not user-friendly etc. You can user trust wallet Instead in your phone.

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It works smoothly on my mobile phone. I think the problem is your device.

On Android, you must pay attention when you click on Pay, slide the fee-rate bar from left to right if you want to increase fee rate for your transaction (sat/byte) and vice versa if you want to reduce the fee rate.

It would be from 1, 2, 5, 10 (10 increment) to 50, then 70, 100, 150, etc.

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