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August 24, 2021, 01:26:52 PM
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Hi guys,

Have you guys ever try to mine with couple of asics connected to the Internet via 4G phone network.

Is it reliable long term or some issues are to be expected and this is not a viable option?

Many thanks for your feedbacks.

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August 24, 2021, 02:22:50 PM
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If it has stable internet then you can but you will need some device to connect your ASIC with wifi

And I think it also depends on how many ASIC machines you have?


Why not buy a modem instead? A modem that can support a sim card network? Then directly connect all your miner if you have more than 4 miners then you would need a router with more slots.

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August 24, 2021, 09:32:09 PM
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Latency is probably the biggest issue here, but I would love to hear from anyone doing this with a commercial grade 4g modem/router like a Cradlepoint.   Not a cell phone, or consumer grade "hot spot".
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August 25, 2021, 10:24:08 AM
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Yes this was my point, I'm not sure latency will work.
BTW with a 5G instead of 4G, would latency be better? (I know it's a noob question, but I usually got internet with fiber or wired phone)
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August 25, 2021, 11:38:27 AM
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Depends on your location and the quality of the 4g/5g network.
If were talking about a good quality network and you have good reception theres no reason you cant do it.

Latency is not an inherent problem with 4g/5g or really any network technology thats used but it can be a local issue.
You could check network uptime stats if theyre available but really the only way to know for sure is to try it out.
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August 26, 2021, 01:39:54 PM
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I've been mining with 9x Antminer S9 inside a Windmill for about a year now using 4G.
Its working pretty good. Haven't really had any problems with shares being transmitted too late or anything.
I can't tell you though how good this scales as I haven't tried with more than 9 devices simultaneously.
I will expand this operation later this year though and if I encounter any problems I will let you know!
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August 27, 2021, 10:57:01 AM
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BTW with a 5G instead of 4G, would latency be better? (I know it's a noob question, but I usually got internet with fiber or wired phone)

In theory, it should be an order of magnitude better, although mining doesn't require that super-low latency, 4G as is pretty solid and has an average latency below 70ms according to my own experience, and mind you, the infrastructure here is not the best, so I doubt you will have any issues mining over 4G in terms of latency, your issue will be the bandwidth consumption, if you have a few gears that will be doable, if not, you have some issues.

To solve that you could use a mining proxy, but I have yet to find a stable proxy that I can trust with a few PH worths of hashrate, so that could be an issue.

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August 28, 2021, 11:27:00 AM
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I can answer because I only use the shared connection from 4G via my Iphone.
its works perfectly

I connect my Ubuntu server via WIFI ( 4G shared) and I share this connection via ethernet to a ethernet switch. From here RJ45 to my ASICs. Works very well h24. the iphone stays here always reloading battery.

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August 28, 2021, 07:09:47 PM
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I can answer because I only use the shared connection from 4G via my Iphone.
its works perfectly

I connect my Ubuntu server via WIFI ( 4G shared) and I share this connection via ethernet to a ethernet switch. From here RJ45 to my ASICs. Works very well h24. the iphone stays here always reloading battery.

Hey, I'm wondering, since many 4G contracts still have limited total download capacity - how much data does a miner use up each month?

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August 28, 2021, 08:19:22 PM
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I can answer because I only use the shared connection from 4G via my Iphone.
its works perfectly

I connect my Ubuntu server via WIFI ( 4G shared) and I share this connection via ethernet to a ethernet switch. From here RJ45 to my ASICs. Works very well h24. the iphone stays here always reloading battery.

Hey, I'm wondering, since many 4G contracts still have limited total download capacity - how much data does a miner use up each month?

Near to nothing !

I have many antminer running + laptops mining and I download less than 50 Mo. Upload is more than 850 Mo in general but it is never exactly the same

I will check from 1 to 30th September, and update my message here

Ps : I only solo mine, I don't know if there is an influence on these informations but I don't think so

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August 28, 2021, 08:34:02 PM
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Near to nothing !

I have many antminer running + laptops mining and I download less than 50 Mo. Upload is more than 850 Mo in general but it is never exactly the same

I will check from 1 to 30th September, and update my message here

Ps : I only solo mine, I don't know if there is an influence on these informations but I don't think so

Cool thanks for the quick feedback! To clarify - since Mo. is not an official unit (is it?) - you're talking about MB? Megabytes / megabits?

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Near to nothing !

I have many antminer running + laptops mining and I download less than 50 Mo. Upload is more than 850 Mo in general but it is never exactly the same

I will check from 1 to 30th September, and update my message here

Ps : I only solo mine, I don't know if there is an influence on these informations but I don't think so

Cool thanks for the quick feedback! To clarify - since Mo. is not an official unit (is it?) - you're talking about MB? Megabytes / megabits?
A single miner on a standard stratum pool does roughly 15MBytes a day per pool connection.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg41861265#msg41861265

I also log all internet I/O a miner of mine does at home and it is always close to this per day.

Tiny compared to probably anything else you ever do on the internet.

Up vs Down of that 15MBytes: similar
Up is about 48% i.e. down is about 52%

If you are using non-standard firmware, i.e. not original firmware, then those numbers may be a lot larger depending upon what the hack firmware also sends and receives all day long ...

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August 29, 2021, 10:19:58 AM
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Near to nothing !

I have many antminer running + laptops mining and I download less than 50 Mo. Upload is more than 850 Mo in general but it is never exactly the same

I will check from 1 to 30th September, and update my message here

Ps : I only solo mine, I don't know if there is an influence on these informations but I don't think so

Cool thanks for the quick feedback! To clarify - since Mo. is not an official unit (is it?) - you're talking about MB? Megabytes / megabits?
A single miner on a standard stratum pool does roughly 15MBytes a day per pool connection.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg41861265#msg41861265

I also log all internet I/O a miner of mine does at home and it is always close to this per day.

Tiny compared to probably anything else you ever do on the internet.

Up vs Down of that 15MBytes: similar
Up is about 48% i.e. down is about 52%

If you are using non-standard firmware, i.e. not original firmware, then those numbers may be a lot larger depending upon what the hack firmware also sends and receives all day long ...

Oh that's very strange, I will watchover this carefully.

I use Braiinos I don't know if it changes the data ?

Will save some logs everyday on my servers and look at it

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A single miner on a standard stratum pool does roughly 15MBytes a day per pool connection.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg41861265#msg41861265

I also log all internet I/O a miner of mine does at home and it is always close to this per day.

Tiny compared to probably anything else you ever do on the internet.

Up vs Down of that 15MBytes: similar
Up is about 48% i.e. down is about 52%

15 Megabytes a day sounds very reasonable, thanks a lot!
BTC full nodes however, damn, I seed like hundreds of GB a month at home, I saw recently..  Grin

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A single miner on a standard stratum pool does roughly 15MBytes a day per pool connection.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg41861265#msg41861265

I also log all internet I/O a miner of mine does at home and it is always close to this per day.

Tiny compared to probably anything else you ever do on the internet.

Up vs Down of that 15MBytes: similar
Up is about 48% i.e. down is about 52%

15 Megabytes a day sounds very reasonable, thanks a lot!
BTC full nodes however, damn, I seed like hundreds of GB a month at home, I saw recently..  Grin

Yes, 3GB internet on a prepaid card is more than enough.

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September 03, 2021, 07:30:52 AM
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Yes this was my point, I'm not sure latency will work.
BTW with a 5G instead of 4G, would latency be better? (I know it's a noob question, but I usually got internet with fiber or wired phone)
5G was meant to be faster and better than 4G network, I remember when 3G was the faster years back in my country when 4G was introduced I saw a bigger noticeable difference in hashing Milli second, I have less rejected shares as well, I believe 5G will perform way better with lower latency

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September 03, 2021, 08:21:27 AM
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Yes this was my point, I'm not sure latency will work.
BTW with a 5G instead of 4G, would latency be better? (I know it's a noob question, but I usually got internet with fiber or wired phone)
5G was meant to be faster and better than 4G network, I remember when 3G was the faster years back in my country when 4G was introduced I saw a bigger noticeable difference in hashing Milli second, I have less rejected shares as well, I believe 5G will perform way better with lower latency


If there is a cell tower close by there should not be much latency problem,  would be almost same as WIFI.

I've been running some years on 4G and never had troubles whit connection, tought i had a Cell Tower just on top of me, but the towers are mostly everywere now days.

Packages of information are so small that they wont get stuck either whit like 100-200ms or abit higher.


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September 03, 2021, 01:45:09 PM
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yes it's work and work good
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September 04, 2021, 03:03:55 PM
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Hi guys,

Have you guys ever try to mine with couple of asics connected to the Internet via 4G phone network.

Is it reliable long term or some issues are to be expected and this is not a viable option?

Many thanks for your feedbacks.

Larson311
Hi, I bought 3G/4G modem from AliExpress. I have 1 asic and 1 rig plus TV and all other stuff. Everything is working fine. Average ping for pools in EU is 50-60. Germany/France/Italy less than 10. USA/Australia/China 200+
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