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August 26, 2021, 07:18:16 AM |
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I don’t understand what point of view you want to explain. Pakistan’s economy has always been on the verge of collapse. Afghanistan’s current economic situation is also extremely bad, with little impact on Pakistan. The country with the largest real investment in Pakistan is China. The impact of China's national investment policy on Pakistan will be obvious.
I am also not clear this point Pakistan is won well free freedom country. Afghanistan lots of people get freedom from America I don't agree Taliban can impact Pakistan economy. Pakistan is dependent on china so china will help to recover their all problems.
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August 26, 2021, 09:58:46 AM |
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Every single nation on earth that do not have a big company (and preferably few more) that sells billions of dollars worth of product to other nations will be facing this crisis. It could be today, it could be next year, it could be in a decade but it will happen.
All those USA, UK, Germany and alike nations that have companies that sells to the whole world does create a gap between those nations and nations like Pakistan. If someone from Pakistan came up with Apple (which wouldn't be big I assume like it is now) then Pakistan would be saved, just from that one company.
So, every nation needs to make sure to promote their big companies and help them grow even bigger when it comes down to going overseas, I would literally prefer if governments paid from tax payers money to these nations to open up shops all around the world so that they would bring in more money back to the nation. If you expect foreigners to come in and give you money then you will bankrupt, you need to go earn that money.
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August 26, 2021, 11:07:43 AM |
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Pakistan harbored some terrorists (ehem) in the past, and with this link that they had with terrorist groups, a lot of huge names in the world economy are wary of placing some investments on the country. Add to that the lack of raw materials, manpower, and other resources on the country which further rubs salt to Pakistan’s economic wounds. The Taliban’s rise to power is perhaps one of those things that sealed Pakistan’s economic fate. We would see a continuous decline from here, and it will not be a pretty sight that’s for sure.
Wow, this is actually a really good reason as to why Pakistan's economy is going to tank with the occupation of the Taliban in Afghanistan. Aren't they a nuclear power too? Meaning that they still have a last resort that they can use to their advantage or even probably leverage it to use against neighboring countries to gain some favors in terms of resources.
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August 26, 2021, 11:28:43 AM |
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Wow, this is actually a really good reason as to why Pakistan's economy is going to tank with the occupation of the Taliban in Afghanistan. Aren't they a nuclear power too? Meaning that they still have a last resort that they can use to their advantage or even probably leverage it to use against neighboring countries to gain some favors in terms of resources.
Even countries such as Israel, India and North Korea have nuclear weapons. And it is suspected that Iran may be also having them. But having nuclear weapons is one thing, and having the technology to launch attacks is another. What will be the use with nukes, if they don't have ballistic missiles which can carry these warheads? China is rumored to have transferred missile technology to Pakistan, but in terms of defense technology Pakistan is ages behind the superpowers. If they decide to blackmail the world with nukes, then the consequences won't be too sweet for them.
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August 26, 2021, 12:57:03 PM |
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Why would Pakistan’s economy suffer? You’re talking as if Afghanistan and the Taliban are interdependent. But the fact is, it’s the Taliban that is dependent on Pakistan's support, not vice versa.
The only reason why Pakistan’s economy could suffer problems is if because of providing support for the Taliban other countries might impose sanctions.
There are rumors about that but I don't think that pakistan will confirm about their support to terrorist organization groups since as you said they will paid what they do for supporting those enemy of the state if they are confirmed doing that. Didn't know that the connection between these two countries are much more deeper than I initially know, I mean I know that Pakistan supports the Taliban but I didn't it's this deep, I thought it's just like giving them weapons or something like that.
Here is the article of denial of Pakistan about helping the taliban https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/afghan2/Afghan0701-02.htm but maybe the rumors is true since they will not be pointed out if they didn't towards this relation to the terrorist group.
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Whenever I'm engaged in a discussion, I make sure the discussion is something I have picked interest on. Politics and religion are things I don't talk much on because of individual differences and when I look beyond what we are fighting for, they alway don't worth it that's why I always ignore. Religion and politics doesn't worth it and dieing for anyone is just foolishness be it politics or religion. We always forget the humanity outweigh those things but because of selfish interests and corruption, we always turned a blind eye. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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August 26, 2021, 11:42:03 PM |
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At first the Afghans blamed Pakistan for the situation they were in. Islamabad is accused of providing shelter to the Taliban. Several years ago former Pakistani president General Pervez Musharraf acknowledged the ISI was responsible for the birth of the Taliban. Because the government and most of the population of Afghanistan are more supportive of India. it all depends on how Pakistan explains this phenomenon to the public, so that investors don't leave Pakistan
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August 27, 2021, 02:55:23 AM |
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At first the Afghans blamed Pakistan for the situation they were in. Islamabad is accused of providing shelter to the Taliban. Several years ago former Pakistani president General Pervez Musharraf acknowledged the ISI was responsible for the birth of the Taliban. Because the government and most of the population of Afghanistan are more supportive of India. it all depends on how Pakistan explains this phenomenon to the public, so that investors don't leave Pakistan
Pakistan has supported various militant groups, to pursue their interests in Kashmir and Afghanistan. And regarding Taliban, I would agree. The Taliban was an unsophisticated and unorganized outfit and it was the CIA which transformed it in to a deadly conventional terror organization by supplying it with modern weaponry and training. They wanted to kick out the USSR from Afghanistan, and hoped that the Taliban would do the job for them. The ISI mostly played a supporting role. And once the Soviets puled out of Afghanistan, the Taliban turned their weapons against those who supplied them in the first place.
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August 27, 2021, 05:37:11 AM |
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For now it is not only Pakistan whose economy is declining but many other countries are also experiencing the same thing during the current pandemic, if indeed the cause of Pakistan's economic decline is because of helping the Taliban, can you include the source so we can review further about the truth of this news
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August 27, 2021, 07:18:32 AM Last edit: August 27, 2021, 07:31:33 AM by Koro-Sensei |
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Investors are most likely to invest in countries where they are safe. Pakistan in the other hand is a neighbor country of Afghanistan which is really prone to attacks by these terror groups. This makes investors staying out of that place and that makes their economy shrink added by this pandemic it is really expected to lower down their GDP. Unless, they fight this terror group, they can't have foreign investor coming there.
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August 27, 2021, 12:44:21 PM |
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Pakistan is a country with a depressed economy and extremely troubled society, mainly terrorism as well as crime. I have read a lot about this country and they are one of the most troublesome countries. security is very poor and terrorism occurs continuously in many places.
Don't forget the religion extremism in there which is the worst thing because their faith caused millions if not billions of deaths in the name of someone that there's no guarantee that we will ever see. I think this mixture of things that Pakistan do is what's causing their current problem in terms of economy.
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August 27, 2021, 01:48:45 PM |
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Basically, from the beginning, even before the Taliban took control, I've read that the economy there is already chaotic on the verge of collapse, and now coupled with the Taliban conflict, it will definitely be more chaotic and difficult to control. The economy has become increasingly chaotic, the Afghan currency has fallen dramatically and not only that, the price of basic necessities is now reported to have increased by about 20% after the Taliban took control of Afghanistan. and now banks in Afghanistan are restricted in search of some even closed plus the World Central Bank has now stopped disbursing funds for its projects in Afghanistan, citing concerns about the impact of the Taliban government on development prospects, especially for women. this will become increasingly chaotic and uncontrollable if allowed to drag on for a long time, it could be that Afghanistan is now just a matter of time to be destroyed if this is not stopped immediately.
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August 29, 2021, 08:42:39 PM |
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USA leaving Afghanistan created a whole lot of gap there, it is creating a big problem, right now they are literally ruled by a terrorist organization, don't get it confused, Taliban IS a terrorist organization because they create terror, if you are afraid of them, if you fear them, if millions upon millions of people running away from the nation because of them, it means they are cause of terror for so many people, what do you call a group that causes terror? A terrorist organization.
This is why it is only understandable that they may cause some harm all around, it could be for Pakistan, it could be for Iran, it could be for Turkey where many Afghans are running to, it could be anywhere, it is a terrorist organization ruling over a huge nation, of course it is going to cause a lot of economical problems and even other problems to nations around them.
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I don’t understand what point of view you want to explain. Pakistan’s economy has always been on the verge of collapse. Afghanistan’s current economic situation is also extremely bad, with little impact on Pakistan. The country with the largest real investment in Pakistan is China. The impact of China's national investment policy on Pakistan will be obvious.
Really, is it always been that way? Then how come they're still doing just fine and they even have this seeding projects that aims to grow a lot of trees, pretty sure that it's an expensive project plus don't they have a nuclear arsenal? Pakistan really needs the aid of other countries for it to survive again if that could ever be possible. Corruption and other illegal activities had been the backbone of the country which the US and other European countries had tried their best to clear the waves but still yet nothing happened. The Taliban had a deceitful objective to eradicate people who are or can be an antagonist to them by claiming lives unnecessarily.
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Pakistan really needs the aid of other countries for it to survive again if that could ever be possible. Corruption and other illegal activities had been the backbone of the country which the US and other European countries had tried their best to clear the waves but still yet nothing happened. The Taliban had a deceitful objective to eradicate people who are or can be an antagonist to them by claiming lives unnecessarily.
In order to improve their economy, Pakistan needs to come out of the FATF blacklist. And that is not going to happen unless they stop supporting these radical outfits such as Taliban. The COVID 19 pandemic has made the situation worse everywhere. And for Pakistanis, this had a greater impact because many of them are working in the GCC nations to earn a livelihood. Despite the vaccination coverage, the GCC nations are also witnessing a steep increase in the number of new COVID cases.
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Pakistan's economy is now fragile unable to do much for others in this situation the Taliban authorities may try to appear in a good human form for the time being and may want to include other groups in the government but even that attempt is unlikely to succeed. There are also vast differences in the language culture and practices of many ethnic groups in afghanistan in a society of such a mixed population, the philosophy of pluralism is the key to uniting all religions castes tribes ethnicities and tribes, which is totally unacceptable to the taliban.
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August 30, 2021, 04:44:06 AM |
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It seems that the economic impact in Pakistan has nothing to do with helping the Taliban, because Pakistan itself is in economic crisis than before, in Afghanistan there are several countries that have helped the Taliban like Turkey, China and even the US, but they are not affected by their economy because they have helped Afghanistan or the Taliban
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August 30, 2021, 05:55:35 AM |
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It seems that the economic impact in Pakistan has nothing to do with helping the Taliban, because Pakistan itself is in economic crisis than before, in Afghanistan there are several countries that have helped the Taliban like Turkey, China and even the US, but they are not affected by their economy because they have helped Afghanistan or the Taliban
Other countries such as Turkey and Qatar have also helped the Taliban (although in an indirect manner). But these countries are safe from any sanctions or embargoes, because they are economic powerhouses. Both the US and Russia need Turkey on their side, to maintain the monopoly on natural gas supplies to the European Union. And Qatar is the largest supplier of LNG right now. Pakistan doesn't have any such economic leverage. They are mostly dependent on remittance payments from the middle-east and that's why they could be in a greater danger.
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August 30, 2021, 06:20:16 AM |
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It seems that the economic impact in Pakistan has nothing to do with helping the Taliban, because Pakistan itself is in economic crisis than before, in Afghanistan there are several countries that have helped the Taliban like Turkey, China and even the US, but they are not affected by their economy because they have helped Afghanistan or the Taliban
Pakistan certainly has an impact with Afghanistan after being controlled by the Taliban, they are 2 countries but there are many similarities in the population there, I hope Pakistan can play an active role in helping Afghanistan so that it can create better economic and political conditions than before.
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August 30, 2021, 07:10:24 AM |
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Pakistan certainly has an impact with Afghanistan after being controlled by the Taliban, they are 2 countries but there are many similarities in the population there, I hope Pakistan can play an active role in helping Afghanistan so that it can create better economic and political conditions than before.
One of the provinces of Pakistan (Khyber Pakhtunkhwa) is mostly populated by the Pashto speaking people. Back in 1947-48, there was a movement to merge the province with Afghanistan (previously the entire area was part of the Afghan Durrani Empire). And some of the Pakistani officials still believe that Afghanistan is interested in merging the province to their territory. This is also one of the reasons why Pakistan has aided the Taliban, so that they could weaken the Afghan government.
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