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August 30, 2021, 02:04:57 PM
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A country that is in conflict, of course, will experience a significant economic decline and that is the consequence
diplomatic relations between countries and investors play an important role in the economy of a country and when conflicts arise then fear will arise, so it is not surprising that many investors withdraw/sell their investments

Before the political conditions in Afghanistan improve (until it is clear which group controls the country) then Afghanistan's economic condition will continue to deteriorate

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August 30, 2021, 07:39:29 PM
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I don’t understand what point of view you want to explain. Pakistan’s economy has always been on the verge of collapse. Afghanistan’s current economic situation is also extremely bad, with little impact on Pakistan. The country with the largest real investment in Pakistan is China. The impact of China's national investment policy on Pakistan will be obvious.

I think the real concern should be the whole countries security. Taliban is in power so extremist activity could be at its peak now in Pakistan. Because in Pakistan there is another group of Taliban that shares the same ideology and even they both have the same ethnicity. I think the Pakistani govt should be on high alert now because Afghanistan could be a safe haven for other extremist groups which could be very dangerous for its neighboring countries pakistan.


Based on the Afghan economy under the control of the Taliban, which is currently not fully improving because they are in the early stages of future economic development. So it is natural to organize the land structure of the country with a new policy system, as was the case with other countries after the second world war at that time.

Restoring the economy is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand. We are talking about the economic growth of a country full of various ethnicities. What if in the end Afghanistan became a country with the nickname of a superpower. As once discussed by a member of the US Congress (Jim Banks) who said that after the withdrawal of US troops there are still many American war goods left in the form of military assets of $85 million which are detailed in super complete combat equipment: 200 planes and helicopters including the proud US Black hawk. , 600,000 heavy and light weapons, medical equipment, bulletproof armor, and many more such as retinal scanner biometric equipment in the form of glasses.

Plus the Chinese delegation has agreed to become the country that acquires the formation of a new Afghanistan under the Taliban.

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August 30, 2021, 10:16:39 PM
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Amid decreasing Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) floes, Pakistan's economy is expected to shrnik further, flowing Afghanistan's current situation.

According to Dawn (Pakistan's official news pepar), the consistent decline in flows into Pakistan in recent years should worry the country's economic managers.
From what i understand Pakistan was instrumental in creating these forces and now they are biting them back  Cheesy. I am not aware of the entire history but i have seen debates when Afghanistan was occupied by Taliban and it was a hot topic globally and that is where i know about the history of Pakistan and the Taliban and now these forces enforces terror in neighboring country how can they expect FDI. You need stability for money to flow and as long as there is no stability investors will not risk their money.
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August 31, 2021, 02:45:18 AM
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From what i understand Pakistan was instrumental in creating these forces and now they are biting them back  Cheesy. I am not aware of the entire history but i have seen debates when Afghanistan was occupied by Taliban and it was a hot topic globally and that is where i know about the history of Pakistan and the Taliban and now these forces enforces terror in neighboring country how can they expect FDI. You need stability for money to flow and as long as there is no stability investors will not risk their money.

Pakistan is currently under the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) blacklist and that is the reason why they can't attract much FDI.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/pakistan-risks-fatf-blacklisting-as-it-continues-to-abate-terrorism-report/articleshow/80398569.cms?from=mdr

Despite several warnings, Pakistan has allowed organizations such as Jamaar-ud-Dawa and Jaish-e-Muhammed to operate in it's territory. And these organizations are suspected to have committed terrorist activity in the neighboring countries. Now who will risk investing in a country that is under active surveillance by the FATF?

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August 31, 2021, 07:56:01 AM
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Amid decreasing Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) floes, Pakistan's economy is expected to shrnik further, flowing Afghanistan's current situation.

According to Dawn (Pakistan's official news pepar), the consistent decline in flows into Pakistan in recent years should worry the country's economic managers.
From what i understand Pakistan was instrumental in creating these forces and now they are biting them back  Cheesy. I am not aware of the entire history but i have seen debates when Afghanistan was occupied by Taliban and it was a hot topic globally and that is where i know about the history of Pakistan and the Taliban and now these forces enforces terror in neighboring country how can they expect FDI. You need stability for money to flow and as long as there is no stability investors will not risk their money.
It seems that because of the Taliban, all the neighboring countries of Afghanistan will be in a fever due to the possibility of military and terrorist actions in this region. After the Taliban seized power in Afghanistan, the activities of various radical Islamist groups will intensify and the hotbed of tension in this region will inevitably grow. In response, the United States and other states will also take appropriate military measures and it is difficult to even imagine what this might lead to. A significant part of the active members of the Taliban consists of Uzbeks and other nationalities of Central Asia, and this military center can be transferred there as well. If this happens, then Russia will also be involved.
Therefore, difficulties will soon arise not only for Pakistan.

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It seems that because of the Taliban, all the neighboring countries of Afghanistan will be in a fever due to the possibility of military and terrorist actions in this region. After the Taliban seized power in Afghanistan, the activities of various radical Islamist groups will intensify and the hotbed of tension in this region will inevitably grow. In response, the United States and other states will also take appropriate military measures and it is difficult to even imagine what this might lead to. A significant part of the active members of the Taliban consists of Uzbeks and other nationalities of Central Asia, and this military center can be transferred there as well. If this happens, then Russia will also be involved.
Therefore, difficulties will soon arise not only for Pakistan.

Uzbeks comprise around 8%-10% of the population of Afghanistan, and therefore you can naturally expect a few of them in the Taliban rank and file. But Taliban is dominated by various Pashtun tribes, with a large portion coming from the Kochi nomads. Dari (Afghan Persian) speaking groups are rare in Taliban, so are the ethnic minorities such as Uzbeks, Hazaras, Pashayis, Nuristanis and Pamiris. And countries such as Tajikistan and Uzbekistan are already concerned about the warfare spilling over to their territory. Tajikistan has already started providing arms and ammunition to the Northern Alliance (which is mostly comprised of Dari speaking Tajiks).
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August 31, 2021, 02:26:14 PM
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Pakistan's economy was predicted by the US government and the US poured money into the country for political and military control. Pakistan's economy is empty and has no momentum. The Taliban take over and they will have to reform their ways to get Pakistan's economy going.
The Americans have failed and they will impose sanctions on Pakistan to contain this force, but they have the backing of Russia and some other countries so its economic recovery can be difficult. difficulty.
After each economic stagnation is normal, they need political stability before embarking on economic development.
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Pakistan's economy was predicted by the US government and the US poured money into the country for political and military control. Pakistan's economy is empty and has no momentum. The Taliban take over and they will have to reform their ways to get Pakistan's economy going.
The Americans have failed and they will impose sanctions on Pakistan to contain this force, but they have the backing of Russia and some other countries so its economic recovery can be difficult. difficulty.
After each economic stagnation is normal, they need political stability before embarking on economic development.
That could be Afghanistan you are talking about. I mean yeah sure Pakistan has a lot of shit going on in the nation and they are tied with USA as well that is all very true, but Taliban will not take over Pakistan or at least did not do so right now, they did it to Afghanistan instead. Pakistan is not doing well because their economy is in a stagnant stage and that is the main problem they are having right now, the moment they end up fixing it, they will get back on track or just like many other nations right now they will bankrupt and be a financially bad nation.

I am sorry but the whole world is in financial trouble right now, doesn't matter which nation you are, it is worse than 10 years ago and 10 years ago was the famous 2008 and aftermath, so that being even worse right now is a horrible situation, it is surreal that we manage to cripple the economy of the whole world this easily.

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Pakistan's economy was predicted by the US government and the US poured money into the country for political and military control. Pakistan's economy is empty and has no momentum. The Taliban take over and they will have to reform their ways to get Pakistan's economy going.
The Americans have failed and they will impose sanctions on Pakistan to contain this force, but they have the backing of Russia and some other countries so its economic recovery can be difficult. difficulty.
After each economic stagnation is normal, they need political stability before embarking on economic development.
That could be Afghanistan you are talking about. I mean yeah sure Pakistan has a lot of shit going on in the nation and they are tied with USA as well that is all very true, but Taliban will not take over Pakistan or at least did not do so right now, they did it to Afghanistan instead. Pakistan is not doing well because their economy is in a stagnant stage and that is the main problem they are having right now, the moment they end up fixing it, they will get back on track or just like many other nations right now they will bankrupt and be a financially bad nation.

I am sorry but the whole world is in financial trouble right now, doesn't matter which nation you are, it is worse than 10 years ago and 10 years ago was the famous 2008 and aftermath, so that being even worse right now is a horrible situation, it is surreal that we manage to cripple the economy of the whole world this easily.

I was confused between Pakistan and Afghanistan. I agree with your point of view. The world economy is facing many uncertainties. The pandemic is still going on, economic activity is struggling. This row has dozens of businesses closed because of losses.
There's nothing else we can do about fighting the epidemic and trying to keep the economy under control.
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That could be Afghanistan you are talking about. I mean yeah sure Pakistan has a lot of shit going on in the nation and they are tied with USA as well that is all very true, but Taliban will not take over Pakistan or at least did not do so right now, they did it to Afghanistan instead. Pakistan is not doing well because their economy is in a stagnant stage and that is the main problem they are having right now, the moment they end up fixing it, they will get back on track or just like many other nations right now they will bankrupt and be a financially bad nation.

I am sorry but the whole world is in financial trouble right now, doesn't matter which nation you are, it is worse than 10 years ago and 10 years ago was the famous 2008 and aftermath, so that being even worse right now is a horrible situation, it is surreal that we manage to cripple the economy of the whole world this easily.

Pakistan also used to receive a lot of foreign aid from the United States and the United Kingdom until very recently. And in case of UK, Pkaistan still remains as the top recipient of foreign aid. And it is no secret that a large part of the $1-2 trillion USD invested by the US in Afghanistan was spent in Pakistan. It was Pakistan which provided logistical support and army bases to the NATO forces. Pakistani economy has been stagnant for well over a decade now. Foreign investment has dried out due to terrorist attacks and the high population growth puts a strain on resources that are already scarce.

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September 01, 2021, 03:03:33 AM
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That could be Afghanistan you are talking about. I mean yeah sure Pakistan has a lot of shit going on in the nation and they are tied with USA as well that is all very true, but Taliban will not take over Pakistan or at least did not do so right now, they did it to Afghanistan instead. Pakistan is not doing well because their economy is in a stagnant stage and that is the main problem they are having right now, the moment they end up fixing it, they will get back on track or just like many other nations right now they will bankrupt and be a financially bad nation.

I am sorry but the whole world is in financial trouble right now, doesn't matter which nation you are, it is worse than 10 years ago and 10 years ago was the famous 2008 and aftermath, so that being even worse right now is a horrible situation, it is surreal that we manage to cripple the economy of the whole world this easily.

Pakistan also used to receive a lot of foreign aid from the United States and the United Kingdom until very recently. And in case of UK, Pkaistan still remains as the top recipient of foreign aid. And it is no secret that a large part of the $1-2 trillion USD invested by the US in Afghanistan was spent in Pakistan. It was Pakistan which provided logistical support and army bases to the NATO forces. Pakistani economy has been stagnant for well over a decade now. Foreign investment has dried out due to terrorist attacks and the high population growth puts a strain on resources that are already scarce.

US will have to compete with China as to who should Pakistan be friendlier with. The offer of China to Pakistan and Afghanistan to be part of their silkroad plans will probably be materialized now that there will be an authority (Talibans) there in Afghanistan. China legitimizing Taliban as the authority in Afghanistan will likely be accepted by many as well.

But they have to fight other forces again. Odd as it may seem, Talibans and US army are already joining forces to fight ISIS. Now they only have one enemy. It looks like a scene from a movie right?

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September 03, 2021, 02:45:44 AM
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Right now the current scenario is very difficult, because obviously nobody wants to invest there, because they fear that they may have the greatest of all possible losses, however this represents opportunities for countries like China and Russia that have stated that they are comfortable with what they are. have done in Afghanistan, it is necessary to make known the different given scenarios, but even if they find help from countries like Russia or China, they can get loans but with high interest rates, obviously these nearby countries tend to enter into a certain devaluation, because what gives them the most to people is fear.

And fear is one of the determining emotions in the economy, in financial markets it tends to generate mistrust, I would say that it is very difficult to determine what will happen, the USA can unleash an imminent war, the situation is delicate.

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September 03, 2021, 06:36:33 PM
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Pakistan's economy was predicted by the US government and the US poured money into the country for political and military control. Pakistan's economy is empty and has no momentum. The Taliban take over and they will have to reform their ways to get Pakistan's economy going.
The Americans have failed and they will impose sanctions on Pakistan to contain this force, but they have the backing of Russia and some other countries so its economic recovery can be difficult. difficulty.
After each economic stagnation is normal, they need political stability before embarking on economic development.
Don't forget that China has been secretly helping the Taliban and now they have a more intimate relationship with both Pakistan and the Taliban.
because according to some sources China has poured both funds and weapons to the Taliban to support their victory in Afghanistan, and now it is evident that they have asked for the conditions of the Taliban victory now.
It is clear that apart from China, they need economic concessions, they also have a conflict with Uighur Muslims who want independence for the Uyghurs in China. By considering the Taliban as brothers, they hope that the Taliban can suppress Muslims in the Uighurs at least they (Taliban) are not in alliance with fellow Muslims who are in the Uighurs.
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September 03, 2021, 08:36:54 PM
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US will have to compete with China as to who should Pakistan be friendlier with. The offer of China to Pakistan and Afghanistan to be part of their silkroad plans will probably be materialized now that there will be an authority (Talibans) there in Afghanistan. China legitimizing Taliban as the authority in Afghanistan will likely be accepted by many as well.

But they have to fight other forces again. Odd as it may seem, Talibans and US army are already joining forces to fight ISIS. Now they only have one enemy. It looks like a scene from a movie right?

China doesn't really care about terrorism or human rights and they can afford to enter into an alliance with the Taliban. And Russia seems to be following the same footsteps. The US government doesn't have this freedom. However, in retaliation the United States can strengthen their relationship with India. But the current Democrat administration is not seen as very friendly towards India (unlike the previous one headed by Trump). But in order to take a stance, the US first of all need to have a president who can make decisions on his own. Biden is simply not fit for the job.
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September 03, 2021, 09:03:22 PM
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It is an uncomfortable situation for the country of Pakistan that with its internal problems they also have to deal with the Taliban as well as the displaced Afghans. I believe that countries that support Afghan refugees will receive international support.

I think it is a good solution to be able to help the poor Afghans who were left with nothing.
In any case, the Taliban are being watched because of the danger that they represent as a violent and rebellious group.

But I also understand that Pakistan's economy will also worsen unless they receive more international support.

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September 16, 2021, 09:41:57 AM
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Pakistan is a country with a depressed economy and extremely troubled society, mainly terrorism as well as crime. I have read a lot about this country and they are one of the most troublesome countries. security is very poor and terrorism occurs continuously in many places.

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September 16, 2021, 09:52:44 AM
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Amid decreasing Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) floes, Pakistan's economy is expected to shrnik further, flowing Afghanistan's current situation.

According to Dawn (Pakistan's official news pepar), the consistent decline in flows into Pakistan in recent years should worry the country's economic managers.

The net flows fell by just under 39% year-on-year in July in continuation of the trend witnessed last fiscal when,
Long-term, non-debt-creating investments plummeted by 29% to 1.85 billion dollars from the previous year, the Dawn reported.

      Is this right?

I am not sure about Pakistan, I think it is certainly going to be impacted, but Afghanistan has certainly thrown away one of the best chances of modernising the country that it ever had. While US did not have any intention of helping, the fact remains that they were sending plenty of aid that has been mostly lost to corruption.

Their economy will now have to do without the huge money pumps from the US. My take is that Pakistan will suffer the side effects as well.

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September 16, 2021, 12:50:32 PM
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It seems that the economic impact in Pakistan has nothing to do with helping the Taliban, because Pakistan itself is in economic crisis than before, in Afghanistan there are several countries that have helped the Taliban like Turkey, China and even the US, but they are not affected by their economy because they have helped Afghanistan or the Taliban

Pakistan certainly has an impact with Afghanistan after being controlled by the Taliban, they are 2 countries but there are many similarities in the population there, I hope Pakistan can play an active role in helping Afghanistan so that it can create better economic and political conditions than before.
Its true that two countries has many similarities .The main theme is for them is religion but why they become act like as terrorist .I actually never get that two countries has different terrorist group they actually has negativity about their economy .They always fight for the power never for religion .However we have seen that how Taliban has act on the past when they were in power .Once again Afghanistan are in deep trouble with their economy and security .The situation of the border are same as Pakistan .Two countries is actually surviving with their economy and it will never be solved if nothing happen to set the peace here .

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September 16, 2021, 01:18:32 PM
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I still can't get over how everything with Afghanistan went down.  It's an absolute embarrassment to my country, the United States. All I can't help but think is that something very fishy was/is going on.  You don't just fight a 1 trillion dollar war and then all of a sudden just say "hey, we're out".  I feel horrible for the people in both Afghan and Pakistan, it can't be an easy way of life there no matter what.

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September 18, 2021, 12:20:22 AM
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Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, conflict, and the failures of past governments and their corruption, the humanitarian situation in Afghanistan is dire, with nearly 18 million Afghans in urgent need of humanitarian assistance.

The international community must learn from the past and must remain engaged in Afghanistan because instability or economic collapse will perpetuate the conflict and prolong the suffering of the people in Afghanistan.

Today Afghanistan is at a critical juncture in its history.  The Afghan people can, with the support of the international community, restore peace and revive development prospects.
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