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September 02, 2021, 09:04:13 AM
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I think 100 million per coin is nuts, but they're probably making this prediction intentionally because they want to pump the price as much as they can and profit from it (they are not a disinterested party), but like a few years ago, financial experts were saying Bitcoin would go down to zero (which is clearly an overstatement) because they thought they could kill it and keep doing their traditional investments safely. Even considering what dkbit98 is pointing out that 100 million in 15 years is not 100 million now, unless they mean that dollar would become pretty worthless and suffer from hyperinflation, I don't think Bitcoin will be worth that much.

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September 02, 2021, 02:02:35 PM
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2035 is 14 years from now. There are so many possibilities that could happen in span of 14 years. Although i think $100M is a little bit exaggerated for a price of 1btc but it could happen. It's not really impossible given that bitcoin is limited. Maybe if you will apply the law of supply and demand, that could happen because in 14 years, let's say all bitcoin is already mined. There would be a very limited supply. The scarcity of it will make its price go higher and higher because many people will have an interest to buy it, but only a very few supply is available. Hence, price will start to pump until it reaches its peak value.

Back then, the price of btc is relatively low compared to its price today. Who would have thought it would pump that much? The believers are surely in a happy place for trusting the prediction and holding for this long (from its establishment until present).
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September 02, 2021, 03:43:46 PM
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I think 100 million per coin is nuts, but they're probably making this prediction intentionally because they want to pump the price as much as they can and profit from it (they are not a disinterested party), but like a few years ago, financial experts were saying Bitcoin would go down to zero (which is clearly an overstatement) because they thought they could kill it and keep doing their traditional investments safely. Even considering what dkbit98 is pointing out that 100 million in 15 years is not 100 million now, unless they mean that dollar would become pretty worthless and suffer from hyperinflation, I don't think Bitcoin will be worth that much.

That's right, there's a lot to be learned from his words.  Do you just want to find the stage?  or take advantage?  or is it purely a measurable prediction.  On the other hand, I see if this is based on basic calculations then the 100 Million figure is based on the prediction of hyperinflation that hit the US so that the value of 100 Million will not be so meaningful in the next 15 years.  What's more, almost all countries are printing large amounts of money, taking out loans for social funds makes the economic system quite bad for the future.
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September 02, 2021, 03:52:08 PM
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I think 100 million per coin is nuts
A lot of people have said the same thing back then when bitcoin was still a dollar that it's crazy that bitcoin will ever go to a thousand dollars but it did so I don't see anything wrong with believing in that even if we think they're just trying to pump the prices.

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September 02, 2021, 04:00:25 PM
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the price of bitcoin 10 years ago (2011) was only around $1, and this year the price of bitcoin hit a high of around $60k. that means for 10 years the price of bitcoin has increased 60000%. but of course the journey of bitcoin price 10 years ago with the next 10 years is very different. for most people the current price of bitcoin is too high to invest. I don't think it's possible for bitcoin to cross $100M in the next 14 years.

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September 02, 2021, 08:55:29 PM
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I think 100 million per coin is nuts, but they're probably making this prediction intentionally because they want to pump the price as much as they can and profit from it (they are not a disinterested party), but like a few years ago, financial experts were saying Bitcoin would go down to zero (which is clearly an overstatement) because they thought they could kill it and keep doing their traditional investments safely. Even considering what dkbit98 is pointing out that 100 million in 15 years is not 100 million now, unless they mean that dollar would become pretty worthless and suffer from hyperinflation, I don't think Bitcoin will be worth that much.
Do not think of it like today. 100 years ago today there were houses sold for few bucks, sure there were still some houses going for thousands of dollars, but even the biggest house wasn't 100k, it was much much less than that, you got a whole mansion for 5k, and you could have gotten some wooden shed type place (where Abraham Lincoln was more) for under 100 bucks. Today houses start from 50k at the worst place ever and go for 50+ million dollars for those huge mansions, of course they are much better looking but that shows you the inflation.

This is just houses we are talking about, people were living with 2-3 dollar salaries monthly, like 5 bucks was a good salary per month, now you need 5k not to be poor. This means 100 million dollars per bitcoin is not impossible, it is not a dream, it just something that will take a long time to reach, and by that time 100 million of that day will be similar to few million dollars of today.
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September 02, 2021, 09:38:26 PM
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I can't say that they are nuts. Because we never know what Bitcoin can do in such a time period. However, it seems really not very probable to me for now. First of all, I wonder when Bitcoin price will be able to go over $1m price level. If it goes over this level and strengthens its place there, then it would be quite probable to see Bitcoin price at much higher levels. But still, I don't know whether a 14-year gap is enough to reach this high level.

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September 02, 2021, 10:14:02 PM
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When the price of Bitcoin hit a whopping one cent, do you suppose anyone would have taken seriously the notion that in a little over just one decade's time the price of Bitcoin would have risen to its recent all time high of $ 65,000?

That's the $64,000 question...

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September 02, 2021, 10:35:43 PM
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I guess we'll just have to see if it's really going to happen. Remember that bitcoin reached 60k and not a lot of people expected that it will go to that point so I don't think that it's the best of us to doubt the numbers but given how large it is, I think it's unlikely that kind of number will happen at that timeframe.
Yeah, many didn't expected that there will be a higher ATH that will happen this year. We've only waited for bitcoin to reach $20,000 again and then it suddenly surpassed that price.

Investing in bitcoin really requires a lot of patience, it's more than just a waiting game.

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When the price of Bitcoin hit a whopping one cent, do you suppose anyone would have taken seriously the notion that in a little over just one decade's time the price of Bitcoin would have risen to its recent all time high of $ 65,000?

That's the $64,000 question...

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Makes entirely sense! Back when BTC was first released, its price was nowhere near a dollar. Remember the guy that sold 10,000 BTCs for a slice of pizza? I mean, who would have thought that its price would skyrocket in the following years?

I mean, $100M is too much for one to speculate given the circumstances of each trade that affect its price on the market. But if you thought about it very carefully, there is indeed that possibility for bitcoin to reach that kind of price but I doubt that it would be at the year 2035. One thing is for sure- better HODL your BTCs for a good 10 years!

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September 02, 2021, 11:41:00 PM
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Overly optimistic to borderline delusional IMO, though still not impossible if ever massive inflation is to hit the world markets. Fidelity is known to give otherworldly predictions, so I’d say just let them be. Currently, bitcoin sits @ $49k a piece, when in fact just a decade ago it isn’t even worth a dollar. They could most probably be wrong on their predictions, but I can’t really tell that they are crazy or out of their minds because no one predicted that we will be where we’re at right now 10 years back.

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September 02, 2021, 11:46:54 PM
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Overly optimistic to borderline delusional IMO, though still not impossible if ever massive inflation is to hit the world markets. Fidelity is known to give otherworldly predictions, so I’d say just let them be. Currently, bitcoin sits @ $49k a piece, when in fact just a decade ago it isn’t even worth a dollar. They could most probably be wrong on their predictions, but I can’t really tell that they are crazy or out of their minds because no one predicted that we will be where we’re at right now 10 years back.
Lets talk about $1M first before going $100M and if we do really mind off about being realistic then these numbers are just really a dream.We've been here for a decade even though adoption isnt still on full scale yet
but reaching even $500k would already be almost an impossible.Somehow we do gradually climb up on the ladder and who knows if we do able to reach those numbers but based up on my own personal view
then $200-300k seems realistic on future years to come but going above $1M is already delusional imho which i do highly agree but well we do have our own personal views so lets just
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September 02, 2021, 11:55:15 PM
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I'm sure this is what they get after computing the the price every halving/bull run and the time interval each cycle but I have a doubt if Bitcoin would reach $100M after almost 15 years that sure a lot of money there. I'm sure there's a bit off about the price analysis that they didn't consider as a factor of changes that they overly estimate the price. Well, I think this is some kind of positive propaganda news to gather more people to invest and to increase adoption of Bitcoin but seriously though, people should do their own research first because investment is not that easy or a get-rich-quick in a small amount of time.

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September 03, 2021, 02:27:22 AM
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the price of bitcoin 10 years ago (2011) was only around $1, and this year the price of bitcoin hit a high of around $60k. that means for 10 years the price of bitcoin has increased 60000%. but of course the journey of bitcoin price 10 years ago with the next 10 years is very different. for most people the current price of bitcoin is too high to invest. I don't think it's possible for bitcoin to cross $100M in the next 14 years.

Back in 2009, when Bitcoin was first traded (the first cryptocurrency exchange was New Libertystandard), the exchange rate was $0.001 per coin. So the current valuation represents a 50 million times increase from those levels. But IMO, percentage increase can be misleading, and we should be looking at the absolute increase instead. The market cap increased during 2009-21 period from $2,000 to $915 billion. However, a price of $100 million per coin would mean a market cap of $2 quadrillion, which is more than 2,000 times the current price levels.

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September 03, 2021, 03:23:11 AM
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For now it's a bit nuts to think that bitcoin in 2035 will be a hundred million apiece. It's not that I don't believe that it will go to that point but because of the time that they've predicted, it's just too short of a timespan for bitcoin to reach that point.

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I don't know what to think anymore, until not too long ago, professional investors either dismissed Bitcoin or said it was a scam, a ponzi scheme etc. Now it seems that they are changing their minds Saylor's style. In the case of Fidelity, it's not that they have changed their mind, as they started mining in 2014, but they have just come off the hook with a prediction that a couple of years ago would have seemed too crazy to us:
We can’t say for sure, but with time we will get to know whether it will reach that or not. But anyways, that is a very long time, so I am not bothering myself what’s going to happen then, for now let’s think of the future that’s nearest before we talk about what’s going to happen in so many years.

I can’t tell you for sure where we are really heading with this, but I know very well that companies like this are fond of over expectation, they always say things that are impossible to happen at a particular time. Although I am not saying it’s not possible, but happening at that time? I can’t really believe it.

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September 04, 2021, 05:03:56 PM
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Look, I confess this is a high price, maybe stratospheric and very optimistic.

Well, I don't know, but I believe for the BTC value reach $100M until 2035, I think the current economy needs to collapse and have a worldwide accession to Bitcoin.

I performed some calculations and so I think it's unlikely (in my humble opinion)

If we look at the current BTC circulation of approximately 18,800,000 units of BTC and apply the value of $100M per unit, your marketcap will be approximately almost $2 quadrillion.
This value is around 1,997 times greater than the current marketcap of Bitcoin (~ $941,800,517,584) and approximately 827 times greater than the current marketcap of all cryptoactives (~ $2,274,493,567,936)
And that's one of the reasons I think Bitcoin's value is unlikely to reach until 2035.

In any case, this is a throwaway prediction IMO.  They're speculating on bitcoin's price 14 years from now, and nobody is going to remember their prediction that long into the future unless someone goes digging for it.  My guess is that there's an ulterior motive behind their statement, since it seems incredibly bullish to say the least.  They're probably trying to give bitcoin some hype for their personal gain directly or for their customers.  And yeah, I'm being very cynical but that's what I think.
What @The Pharmacist said has a lot of nexus, and I also agree with him, they are probably wanting to "inflate" the value with these rumors to have some kind of personal advantage.


ps: these numbers are not entirely accurate and were taken from the coinmarketcap website.
I made these calculations to get a sense of these numbers

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2035 is a long way ahead, who knows what could happen by that time, it is possible btc will attain such high level of price because as we can only assume that btc would be widely adopted and accepted, used for transaction in every part of the world as the main currency, btc value will increase a whole lot more because probably everyone is usingit.

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September 04, 2021, 07:32:49 PM
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I think 100 million per coin is nuts, but they're probably making this prediction intentionally because they want to pump the price as much as they can and profit from it (they are not a disinterested party), but like a few years ago, financial experts were saying Bitcoin would go down to zero (which is clearly an overstatement) because they thought they could kill it and keep doing their traditional investments safely. Even considering what dkbit98 is pointing out that 100 million in 15 years is not 100 million now, unless they mean that dollar would become pretty worthless and suffer from hyperinflation, I don't think Bitcoin will be worth that much.
I think the only way for that prediction to be true is through hyperinflation otherwise I am not so sure the economy of the world and all the wealth accumulated is enough to cover that kind of price for bitcoin, but whatever the case I think we can all recognize that the price of bitcoin is going to be very high and this is good for us because that means that even our small holdings are going to be incredibly valuable in the future.
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