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August 30, 2021, 09:47:53 PM
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The advertising ban meanwhile will be before 9pm, and will run from five minutes before the live sporting event until five minutes after, but will not include horse racing or greyhound racing.


This is strange to me. Horse and greyhound racing have to be two of the hardest sports to gamble consistently. Also probably two of the biggest money losers for gamblers. If the goal were to protect gamblers from losses, I would expect horse and greyhound racing to be at the top of an advertising ban. Many things do not make sense about this latest "war on gambling" which state authorities have taken upon themselves to pursue. For whatever reason?

I hope credit card bans here push crypto mass adoption in ireland. Perhaps the irish can find value in NFTs, DEFI and blockchain gaming.

With all the problems the world has at the moment, it seems strange that anti gambling measures would be so highly prioritized.



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August 30, 2021, 09:52:02 PM
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wow... are they really going to ban Bookmakers credit cards in Ireland!!?
I am sorry to ask, but... why would they do this!??
I don't see any logic in this attitude  Huh Undecided

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August 30, 2021, 09:59:13 PM
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They really came up to the point of banning credit cards. I don't know how it can affect the gambling activities of most people. Gamblers have lots of options even without the use of credit cards.

The ban is already take effect right? Let's see if it will reach or be able to fulfill the purpose for the next following weeks or months.

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August 30, 2021, 10:37:15 PM
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They really came up to the point of banning credit cards. I don't know how it can affect the gambling activities of most people. Gamblers have lots of options even without the use of credit cards.
They said about terms of player protection measures in the article.
Well, Could this be related to the previous gambling activity where many gamblers use credit cards excessively and there are various complaints?
If there have been several bad impacts of the use of credit cards in gambling previously, it makes sense. It may be to protect the gamblers in order to be more and more enough to manage the loss and money management.
However, actually, gambling can be done by another type of payment. It may be still going well, but of course, it may be limited when some people must have cash or money when they want to get gambling. 

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August 30, 2021, 10:39:12 PM
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That's very strict in my opinion, nevertheless, the government has the total power to control everything so gamblers in Ireland can't do anything about it. But gamblers will be gamblers, this is just one step, but they will always find a way to bet on any sports regardless of this credit card bans. So I don't think they can really curb upon gambling in their country, on the contrary it might get worst as those gamblers will find a way to continue their activity or worse their addiction through loan sharks.

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August 30, 2021, 11:21:55 PM
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That's very strict in my opinion, nevertheless, the government has the total power to control everything so gamblers in Ireland can't do anything about it. But gamblers will be gamblers, this is just one step, but they will always find a way to bet on any sports regardless of this credit card bans. So I don't think they can really curb upon gambling in their country, on the contrary it might get worst as those gamblers will find a way to continue their activity or worse their addiction through loan sharks.

Gamblers will always find a way how to bet on their sports. This is just one way to limit their credit card usage. Maybe, the government is also receiving complaints from these credit card providers so they take action where they have control over with. But I do agree that these regular gamblers, they can go beyond their means if they need to just to gamble.
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August 30, 2021, 11:35:49 PM
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They just make things complicated. They can just ask the gambling site operators to remove credit card purchases on their payment method option. Why ban is still the term used there.

I read in the article that it's for safer gambling but even with no credit card used, I don't see how it will reduce the gambling usage of people.

As mentioned in the article too, "The credit card ban will be in place both online and in shops" then what's the use of credit card ban payments if cash payments are still active and accepted at their physical shops. I know they want to save people from taking loans but there's a better idea to solve it.
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August 31, 2021, 01:35:35 AM
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That's very strict in my opinion, nevertheless, the government has the total power to control everything so gamblers in Ireland can't do anything about it. But gamblers will be gamblers, this is just one step, but they will always find a way to bet on any sports regardless of this credit card bans. So I don't think they can really curb upon gambling in their country, on the contrary it might get worst as those gamblers will find a way to continue their activity or worse their addiction through loan sharks.

Limitations can make gamblers be desperate more. The lesser the options, the more these gamblers can find a way. I admire the Ireland country is doing good and maybe we can expect more policies regarding safe gambling. There are also only a few gambling providers that will involve in the credit card banning and other operators can still use it as their payment method.

The purpose is good but it's just a band-aid solution.
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This will drive up crypto adoption imo. Just because people can't use their credit cards doesn't mean that they will stop gambling. They will find something else. It will be either their debit cards or their crypto balance. Since it is a child's play to buy/sell crypto now they will probably avoid the headache of using banks again and use crypto instead. That's the most logical way to approach this ban.
Unless the authorities get a wind of this, pretty sure that crypto might get regulated too but I think it's going to take some time before that happens so there's a possibility that we're going to see it go up and then slumped down when it gets regulated plus it's not really going to stop the gamblers in the country because it's band aid solution in my opinion.

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August 31, 2021, 03:14:27 AM
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I think I agree with this new policy introduced in Ireland. This will protect people from getting drowned into gambling. It is all right to gamble of course. But it has to be made sure gambling will remain as a past time activity and gambling expenses kept at a minimum. Gambling using credit is not a wise thing. Money spent for gambling should be the excess or the extra savings. Credit card gambling is like borrowing money for the sake of wasting it over gambling.
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Although at first sight it may seem a correct measure, since no one should gamble with money they do not have and go into debt to do so, it is a useless measure.

Worthless proposition from worthless authorities. Gamblers won't stop gambling and going into debt because credit cards and advertisements are going to be censored. There are another ways to acquire credit to gamble and I would say they are much more dangerous if compared to credit cards...

I guess you're thinking of them ending up borrowing money from a private lender, mobster or something. But even today there are much easier alternatives. You can get instant loans for example. Then you deposit in the casino with a debit card the money you have borrowed. In other words, the ban will be of little use.


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they knew to themselves that what they are doing is not enough but they didnt increase the restriction . that only shows that they have a care  left to the gamblers of thier country .

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if theres no measures like this gambling will not survived but it will be hated or cursed because many people will become addicted and destroy ther lives  .
increased in standards makes gambling more profesional or appealing
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August 31, 2021, 04:58:47 AM
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I think I agree with this new policy introduced in Ireland. This will protect people from getting drowned into gambling. It is all right to gamble of course. But it has to be made sure gambling will remain as a past time activity and gambling expenses kept at a minimum. Gambling using credit is not a wise thing. Money spent for gambling should be the excess or the extra savings. Credit card gambling is like borrowing money for the sake of wasting it over gambling.
That's not gonna stop gamblers, they can just use fiat for gambling plus it's not like they banned the use of ATMs in the country so there's still a way, this is just the government doing something just to say that they're doing something. Also, you don't say that kind of BS with money used by this people for gambling, they know that it can be used for savings but they don't want to, what part of gambler that you don't understand?
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August 31, 2021, 05:14:51 AM
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Why are the offline and online shops affected in this one, shouldn't it be the gambling alone that's affected by the credit card ban and what's the story behind the ban of credit cards in Ireland? That's a really strange ban in my opinion.
reading the source has been given above you , it would be a big help reading it instead of asking here ..

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I know Ireland for being strict in rules and laws but this will surely bring down gambling industry in their country because credit cards are part of financial support of each individual so even if use in gambling it is their problem .
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August 31, 2021, 06:12:18 AM
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This will drive up crypto adoption imo. Just because people can't use their credit cards doesn't mean that they will stop gambling. They will find something else. It will be either their debit cards or their crypto balance. Since it is a child's play to buy/sell crypto now they will probably avoid the headache of using banks again and use crypto instead. That's the most logical way to approach this ban.
Unless the authorities get a wind of this, pretty sure that crypto might get regulated too but I think it's going to take some time before that happens so there's a possibility that we're going to see it go up and then slumped down when it gets regulated plus it's not really going to stop the gamblers in the country because it's band aid solution in my opinion.

That's also possible what what other choice these people have now other than using crypto? If they regulate crypto then these people still won't stop playing magically. They will find a local casino this time. I never saw a gambling addict that stopped playing because it was illegal to play. They always find a way.

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August 31, 2021, 06:25:37 AM
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So how would they be allowed to deposit then? Just cash? This new thing I heard is this whistle to whistle thing. I had to look it up. So it just means from start to finish of games. I think that is great in a way but then I would miss out on big bets if I was watching in the UK. I love seeing the Irish bet ads sometimes they are just funny:)

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August 31, 2021, 06:46:58 AM
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I think I agree with this new policy introduced in Ireland. This will protect people from getting drowned into gambling. It is all right to gamble of course. But it has to be made sure gambling will remain as a past time activity and gambling expenses kept at a minimum. Gambling using credit is not a wise thing. Money spent for gambling should be the excess or the extra savings. Credit card gambling is like borrowing money for the sake of wasting it over gambling.
Yes, it is. I think that is part of the concern of their government to prevent the addiction that can happen to their people so they use new policy for their people. People should realize that when gambling, they should use free money and not use more money by deposit to the casino. Gambling using credit or debit cards can give bigger risk to the people as they can easily deposit more money. But I think no matter how strict the policy or have a new policy will not work if their people do not realize how dangerous gambling is for them.

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August 31, 2021, 07:00:12 AM
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So how would they be allowed to deposit then? Just cash? This new thing I heard is this whistle to whistle thing. I had to look it up. So it just means from start to finish of games. I think that is great in a way but then I would miss out on big bets if I was watching in the UK. I love seeing the Irish bet ads sometimes they are just funny:)

Yes, most probably it's going to be cash money for gambling. No more credits are you will sink deep in your knees and it's going to be hard to pay your gambling debts. And maybe this is what the government of Ireland is trying to do. Protect them from incurring charges from the banks itself because most likely this gamblers can't pay on time.

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August 31, 2021, 07:12:01 AM
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Personally I think it's a well justified move.

Usually when people are funding their gambling with debt nothing good comes as a result. I'm sure that there were regulatory pressures from the government to undertake this as well given that it is industry standard in other parts of the world.

One step closer to player empowerment, although I think that credit card agencies should also take a proactive role in banning their users from using credit cards on gambling sites.

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August 31, 2021, 07:19:41 AM
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Actually not only ireland banned the use of credit cards for gambling, but the UK in 2020 also implemented the ban on credit card users, the increase in online and offline gambling in the UK triggered the British government to make the ban and maybe this is what is now also triggers the Irish government to do the same thing as the British government did, in my opinion, the use of credit cards in gambling will certainly make the user' finances become problematic, so that later the burden of billing by credit cards can worsen the financial situation of gamblers and will certainly have a worse impact on them.

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