bounty manager, Become a bounty hunter??

[Fullcoinese]

I really hate this bounty manager [initials not mentioned] he is one of the registered managers in 2018 and he is also the second, third, fourth person in every project he manages. Dunno, I don't understand the rules about the Bounty Manager running multiple accounts to join every project he manages. on the other hand he is also actively involved in other projects which he does not manage [greedy].
is that a problem? If it doesn't matter, then I keep my mouth shut. But what if I find out that he is cunning like reducing the allocation of bounty prizes, holding valuable bounty coins for his personal pocket and vice versa.
what do you think about this case?

[yahoo62278]

I really hate this bounty manager [initials not mentioned] he is one of the registered managers in 2018 and he is also the second, third, fourth person in every project he manages. Dunno, I don't understand the rules about the Bounty Manager running multiple accounts to join every project he manages. on the other hand he is also actively involved in other projects which he does not manage [greedy].
is that a problem? If it doesn't matter, then I keep my mouth shut. But what if I find out that he is cunning like reducing the allocation of bounty prizes, holding valuable bounty coins for his personal pocket and vice versa.
what do you think about this case?

What can we think? You haven't really provided any proof of anything. I personally don't think a manager should join projects he is managing unless he is just helping out with his accounts for free. Managers are just regular people and can join bounties they are not managing with no issues. As far as the other stuff, if he is doing that and you have proof of him cheating participants, post it and get him tagged.

[lovesmayfamilis]

If you have strong evidence of a violation of the rules by any bounty manager, you do not need to be afraid. Post anything that you consider to be a scam here, and the community will help and tell you whether you are right or not. To put it in general terms is to question every manager. This is not correct, I believe. Your account history shows that you love to investigate, so don't hesitate and prove to us who the villain is, who participates in multiple accounts, and runs companies at the same time.

[Igebotz]

Bounty Manager running multiple accounts to join every project he manages.

This was a similar case with Smallrabbit, I've seen a lot of complaints about how he farm his alt into numerous campaigns he was managing, collecting full stakes for doing nothing, and I'm sure there are more bounty managers doing the same thing.

on the other hand he is also actively involved in other projects which he does not manage [greedy].
is that a problem?

This is fine; bounty managers are humans too, and if they find a worthwhile project, they may contribute and get compensated for their efforts.

what do you think about this case?

This is an extremely sensitive case to go into, but we're powerless at this point because there's no proof to back it up. This is going nowhere, so give us a hint and let's get this Mf tagged.

[Fullcoinese]

Bounty AXRIA : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5347556.0
Manager Bounty : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2407868

the problem is that the connecting account he uses is not free, as I said for his personal pocket. this time in the AXRIA project .
recently he has been handing out AXRIA coins, in that campaign he didn't cheat like [reducing bounty allocation or not paying] but I suspect when seeing this transaction I assume that he is a bounty manager as well as a bounty hunter.

Starting with this wallet address: [  0xaCBAc28e80220bC0967d2BF7b7763b6c0e6dC943 ]
I assume this wallet is the original owner of the AXRIA Project because it has a large balance.

then, some AXRIA coins started to be divided into several wallets, one of them is this: [  0x492060E813ad1E467518A2Db6F3075aBB088a9bE  ]
If you search, the owner of this wallet is a member of the bounty participant in the AXRIA campaign.
BITCOINTALK Username : Manish2809
BITCOINTALK URL : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2692877

very unlikely, if the owner of this wallet runs hundreds of accounts and has received coins earlier before distribution takes place. and strangely if the owner is a bounty hunter [that's a bounty hunter]. then why are transactions not stored in one wallet? but I saw that the wallet sent coins to many other wallets including [bounty participant wallet] about 21 hours ago.

[TalkStar]

If it doesn't matter, then I keep my mouth shut. But what if I find out that he is cunning like reducing the allocation of bounty prizes, holding valuable bounty coins for his personal pocket and vice versa.

I think i got your point exactly. You are trying to say that manager have joined the bounty with his own multiple account and distributing the bounty reward unfairly. Obviously he is not doing the right thing and its not acceptable.

what do you think about this case?

We have seen similar cases in the past where manager have stolen participants fund or used multiple self generated account to keep big number of tokens in his hand. Even their fraudulent activity were detected by team during final spreadsheet checkup.

It will be better to explain properly with related evidences rather then pointing anything indirectly.

Edit: you may forgot to check this manager's trust page before creating this topic.

Take a look here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2407868

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Edit: you may forgot to check this manager's trust page before creating this topic.

He's got one neg with a valid reference and doesn't have many positives--but I don't know what to think about him being involved in scammy projects in general.  If he's knowingly managing and participating in bounties of projects he knows to be scams, then that's a problem and he'd deserve some DT tags.

In general, though, I don't think there's any problem with a bounty manager participating in his own bounty.  There have been bitcoin-paying signature campaigns that have had that happen with their managers.  I'd think of the manager's slot as an "extra" one, meaning I don't think the manager is taking an open slot in the bounty away from another applicant, but I'm not sure about that.  But in any case, what can you or anyone else do?  As long as the project owners are cool with it, there's nothing the community can do to stop it.  Theymos and the mods certainly aren't going to step in and prevent it.

[The Cryptovator]

To be honest, still, I am getting hard to understand the situation. Do you think the campaign manager persgrata and Manish2809 connected somehow? And please describe how the manager abuse the campaign if so.

Anyway manager could participate own campaign, but he isn't allowed to participate with multiple accounts. It will consider campaign abuse. Managers can't or shouldn't break their own made rules. We have seen previously how managers abuse the campaign. The manager you mentioned here is just a spammer. It's quite surprising how he has been getting projects. Please provide a few more info to make it transparent.

[Igebotz]

To be honest, still, I am getting hard to understand the situation. Do you think the campaign manager persgrata and Manish2809 connected somehow? And please describe how the manager abuse the campaign if so.

He's not implying that they're linked. I believe the OP is simply curious as to how some Axria tokens were moved from the primary holder's wallet ( persgrata ) to different addresses before distribution, one of which is linked to Manish2809, who is also a bounty participant. There is no evidence to prove whether the accounts are linked or not, but the bounty manager moving the tokens to different addresses before distribution is a red flag

[ScamViruS]

The problem is that the manager can participate in his managed campaign. But if he participates using multiple accounts, he must have broken the rules. The purpose of those who do such activities is to try to take as many bounty payments in their pockets as possible using multiple accounts.
And managers who engage in such activities should be tagged if there is sufficient evidence against them.

[Fullcoinese]

To be honest, still, I am getting hard to understand the situation. Do you think the campaign manager persgrata and Manish2809 connected somehow? And please describe how the manager abuse the campaign if so.

He's not implying that they're linked. I believe the OP is simply curious as to how some Axria tokens were moved from the primary holder's wallet ( persgrata ) to different addresses before distribution, one of which is linked to Manish2809, who is also a bounty participant. There is no evidence to prove whether the accounts are linked or not, but the bounty manager moving the tokens to different addresses before distribution is a red flag

as you said it fits the main point I mean. regarding [ persgrata & Manish2809 ] I don't have solid evidence to know if the two are connected but if you look at the transaction history of the AXRIA coin, then Connect with 3 wallets or 3 bounty hunter accounts and join the same project [AXRIA].
whether it's true or not, I assume that the Bounty Manager uses some alt to join the campaign that he manages himself but doesn't use the original Account [persgrata]

Adalgrap:
D_DOT:
Manish2809:


https://bscscan.com/address/0x492060E813ad1E467518A2Db6F3075aBB088a9bE#tokentxns

Related Addresses:

Code:

0x6403BCf81432d19d7171D354a74d055d887F2740
0xaA9F5304079578AB0573D6445E396ddb792F2080
0x492060E813ad1E467518A2Db6F3075aBB088a9bE

edit:
this may sound confusing because they are so smart, as if nothing will happen. but this sneaky way is very easy to spot when viewing transactions. It is very unlikely that a bounty hunter, voluntarily sends hundreds of coins [transaction amount] to different addresses and coincidentally most of the wallets that accept AXRIA Coins include bounty participants.

[Igebotz]

Looks like more than 20+ different addresses received the AXRIA token, at this point I'm confused.

It is very unlikely that a bounty hunter, voluntarily sends hundreds of coins [transaction amount] to different addresses and coincidentally most of the wallets that accept AXRIA Coins include bounty participants.

https://bscscan.com/exportData?type=addresstokentxns&a=0x492060E813ad1E467518A2Db6F3075aBB088a9bE

[Awaklara]

After I checked some of the wallet data above, I found 3 connected accounts on the Bounty Detective Topic: 🕵🏻‍♂️ [BOUNTY DETECTIVE] 🔵StartFi - $50,000 WORTH OF STFI REWARD POOL🔵

3 Accounts Connected
1. Adalgarp
2. Manish2809
3. D_DOT

Proof:

BitcoinTalk Name:
BitcoinTalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2796363
Campaign : Article
ETH/BEP20 Address: 0x6403BCf81432d19d7171D354a74d055d887F2740

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PROOF OF AUTHENTICATION
BITCOINTALK Username : Manish2809
BITCOINTALK URL : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2692877
Campaign Participated : Article
Article link: https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@ramanpandwar/startfi-nft-platform-for-con2tent-creators-and-fans
ADDRESS : 0x492060E813ad1E467518A2Db6F3075aBB088a9bE

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Reserved Italian

BitcoinTalk username: D_DOT
BitcoinTalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2803773
Telegram username: @PICC0L0LATTE_4
Document for translate:  Website and whitepaper
Previous Translations : https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1c2qrjUcN0rRP0zUMs_OOcsUlUZzxqOJH
Erc20 wallet address: 0xaA9F5304079578AB0573D6445E396ddb792F2080

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Related Addresses:

Code:

0x6403BCf81432d19d7171D354a74d055d887F2740         : Adalgarp
0xaA9F5304079578AB0573D6445E396ddb792F2080         : D_DOT
0x492060E813ad1E467518A2Db6F3075aBB088a9bE         : Manish2809

Looks like Adalgarp was also detected to be connected with user raman123 and they have been flagged here Reputation
1. Adalgarp
2. Raman123

#D_DOT

ITALIAN TRANSLATION COMPLETED

BitcoinTalk username: D_DOT
BitcoinTalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2803773
Telegram username: @PICC0L0LATTE_4
WPP: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d5_D8igRvbS4sDpddJNak7fl6z_Tv6cz/view?usp=drivesdk
WEBSITE: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Cwz8EFzdY1buPOvUJ8RoGn6LtMU7dko2r35PxOP4sqA/edit?usp=drivesdk
ANN: https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/index.php?topic=107002
BEP20/ERC20 address: 0xaA9F5304079578AB0573D6445E396ddb792F2080

D_DOT also has problems with the campaign managed by @irfan_pak10 in the Foobe Campaign. he has been tagged negative -1 by @bitbolo due to as a bad translator

[Timelord2067]

It's a bit ordinary for a CM / BM to be a participant of a campaign.  Any of the Signature Campaigns I've looking in on the CM always seems to be a member of a different signature campaign to the one being managed (admittedly I haven't gone checking whether or not they are the CM for the SigCamp they are a participant of, but I'd be surprised if they were.

I've also wondered if some of these lesser paying bounties are seeded by the BM and in this instance it looks like that is the case.  I'll have to look in on these every once in a while if new managers surface.

[khaled0111]

3 Accounts Connected
1. Adalgarp
2. Manish2809
3. D_DOT

Excuse me, but how are these three accounts connected? I can't see what links them from the posts you quoted as proof! Am I missing something?

For those who received the tokens before other bounty hunters, did they join the translation campaign? If yes then that may explain it. Translators usually get their rewards earlier since they deliver their work before other participants.

[Awaklara]

3 Accounts Connected
1. Adalgarp
2. Manish2809
3. D_DOT

Excuse me, but how are these three accounts connected? I can't see what links them from the posts you quoted as proof! Am I missing something?

For those who received the tokens before other bounty hunters, did they join the translation campaign? If yes then that may explain it. Translators usually get their rewards earlier since they deliver their work before other participants.

Sorry @khaled0111, Im late to reply
You can see it in this transaction history:
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xb4cb368961739bcf62275edbbbb471b9b036de8c5e7a4ee8ff277e5a77a0fe21


Related Addresses:

Code:

0x6403BCf81432d19d7171D354a74d055d887F2740         : Adalgarp & Raman123
0xaA9F5304079578AB0573D6445E396ddb792F2080         : D_DOT
0x492060E813ad1E467518A2Db6F3075aBB088a9bE         : Manish2809

based on transaction history the address @Manish2809 received 130 AXR Coins from @Adalgarp/@Raman123 and 390 AXR coins from @D_DOT .if you look at the AXRIA bounty spreadsheet then @Manish2809 & @D_DOT joined the same campaign.
spreadsheets : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LIn6SF2SKlDOyaqCCC6UzWY3Jy2mroWLMNzwA5rP7Yw/edit#gid=83568848
1. D_DOT :
spreadsheets : #7
2. Manish2809
spreadsheets : #4

I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, that @Adalgarp Address has also been used by @Raman123.
Adalgarp
Raman123

Proof of authentication:
Campaigns joined: Youtube      
YouTube Profile Link (if joined): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmuhNXjmYVYwR6xDFxS3ddg
ETH address: 0x6403BCf81432d19d7171D354a74d055d887F2740

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BitcoinTalk Name:
BitcoinTalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2796363
Campaign : Article
ETH/BEP20 Address: 0x6403BCf81432d19d7171D354a74d055d887F2740

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Related Addresses:

Code:

Wallet Address: 0x6403BCf81432d19d7171D354a74d055d887F2740

but @Adagarp and @Raman123 already tagged here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256536.msg54643899#msg54643899

[noorman0]

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I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, that @Adalgarp Address has also been used by @Raman123.
Adalgarp
Raman123

Proof of authentication:
Campaigns joined: Youtube      
YouTube Profile Link (if joined): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmuhNXjmYVYwR6xDFxS3ddg
ETH address: 0x6403BCf81432d19d7171D354a74d055d887F2740

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BitcoinTalk Name:
BitcoinTalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2796363
Campaign : Article
ETH/BEP20 Address: 0x6403BCf81432d19d7171D354a74d055d887F2740

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I can assure that Manish2809, D_DOT and Raman123 are one person, proof:

Raman123 and Manish2809 is connected

Email: deepakp2878@gmail.com

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Email: deepakp2878@gmail.com

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Email: deepakp2878@gmail.com

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Email: deepakp2878@gmail.com

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Email: deepakp2878@gmail.com

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Raman123 and D_DOT is connected

Telegram: @ramanpandwar

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Telegram: @ramanpandwar

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https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@ramanpandwar/extons-eliminating-the-destructive-flaws-and-shortcomings-of-global-trade-in-cryptocurrencies

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https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@ramanpandwar/valuable-metal-development-bronze-silver-gold-advanced-gold

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https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@ramanpandwar/advanced-gold-automated-revenue-quiet-soul

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I have created a thread about a bunch of fake translators here. I contacted one of them and confessed that he owns a translation company and employs several native speakers outside the forum. However, I'm sure that it's just the result of machine translation after I asked some native speakers in this forum to review their work (please check the discussion in that thread).

And that means, Manish2809 and D_DOT has long avoided the ban as Raman123 was banned (bpip).

[Awaklara]

-snip-
I have created a thread about a bunch of fake translators here. I contacted one of them and confessed that he owns a translation company and employs several native speakers outside the forum. However, I'm sure that it's just the result of machine translation after I asked some native speakers in this forum to review their work (please check the discussion in that thread).

And that means, Manish2809 and D_DOT has long avoided the ban as Raman123 was banned (bpip).

thanks @noorman0 already help me add some additional proof, so there is no doubt that they are one person @Adalgarp, @Raman123, @Manish2809, @D_DOT and I already check the discussion in that thread

[persgrata]

Bounty AXRIA : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5347556.0
Manager Bounty : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2407868

the problem is that the connecting account he uses is not free, as I said for his personal pocket. this time in the AXRIA project .
recently he has been handing out AXRIA coins, in that campaign he didn't cheat like [reducing bounty allocation or not paying] but I suspect when seeing this transaction I assume that he is a bounty manager as well as a bounty hunter.

Starting with this wallet address: [  0xaCBAc28e80220bC0967d2BF7b7763b6c0e6dC943 ]
I assume this wallet is the original owner of the AXRIA Project because it has a large balance.

then, some AXRIA coins started to be divided into several wallets, one of them is this: [  0x492060E813ad1E467518A2Db6F3075aBB088a9bE  ]
If you search, the owner of this wallet is a member of the bounty participant in the AXRIA campaign.
BITCOINTALK Username : Manish2809
BITCOINTALK URL : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2692877

very unlikely, if the owner of this wallet runs hundreds of accounts and has received coins earlier before distribution takes place. and strangely if the owner is a bounty hunter [that's a bounty hunter]. then why are transactions not stored in one wallet? but I saw that the wallet sent coins to many other wallets including [bounty participant wallet] about 21 hours ago.

Why did I find this topic just now?  
We don't have alt accounts or the like. This is just nonsense without proof. For that I can say the proof:
50+ conducted bounty campaigns, we haven’t done any distribution, you can ask the founders of the projects we worked with. It is always done by the founder of the project or his team. We even made a disclaimer for every bounty campaign. Therefore, I physically did not have the opportunity to receive tokens before everyone else.
Perhaps this participant in the bounty campaign took part in some contests or the like and received tokens.

[UmerIdrees]

Edit: you may forgot to check this manager's trust page before creating this topic.

He's got one neg with a valid reference and doesn't have many positives--but I don't know what to think about him being involved in scammy projects in general.  If he's knowingly managing and participating in bounties of projects he knows to be scams, then that's a problem and he'd deserve some DT tags.

Is this one tag not enough to ring the alarm bells for the bounty hunters ?

I see so many people participating in the Bounty AXRIA. I would say it is also the fault of the bounty hunters to support the projects in which there is a doubt of unfairness from the bounty manager. When there are so many bounties from good trusted managers, there should be no reason to join bounty from this manager