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The Taliban have claimed control of Panjshir with the help of American weapons
It is a great crime for America to give all its weapons to the Taliban and for Britain to remain silent on it. If the United States or Britain wanted, half of the weapons would have been delivered to Panjshir. And it was possible. When the United States started the war in Afghanistan against Al-Qaeda, it had the support of the Northern Alliance. It was now the responsiblity of the United States to help the Northern Alliance. The United States has shied away from its responsiblities in which Britain is equally guilty. After the Taliban take over all of Afghanistan, the United States will no longer be able to help its people and the Afghan people. If a tragedy arises, it will be the responsibility of both the United States and the United Kingdom, and it will be the responsibility of both to help the people trapped in Afghanistan, to save their lives.
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September 04, 2021, 03:45:48 AM |
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taliban taking over afghanistan.. is not the disaster as a consequence to a spontaneous withdrawal taliban taking over afghanistan.. is america's signed and declared and allowed plan as part of the withdrawal
US president trump and pentagon signed a deal with the taliban over a year ago to allow the taliban takeover
the disaster after withdrawal would be if al-queda took over. the taliban run afghanistan way way before america invaded afghanistan. so its pretty much putting things back as they found it in 2001
yes leaving equipment, weapons and vehicles behind looks like a silly thing to do. but i bet if you look deep enough that there was probably a deal like: 'let american troops leave peacefully and here is your compensation, weapons and vehicles we'll leave behind'
after all once they fire a couple rockets at hills, learning how to use the equipment. the afghans will need to purchase more rockets from.. yep you guessed it.. the US. which is another plan. rather than letting russia or china supply afghanistan, knowing afghanistan would let al-queda take over if russia/china were fueling afghanistan with weapons and other deals
its all part of a bigger more extended plot. to US pentegon. this months events is inevitable 'drama' that needs to happen to get the next phase in line. 'diplomatic trade'
america running afghanistan wasnt doing much trade with afghanistan because its literally paying itself. but now america is out. america can make money from afghanistan.
.. just as fast as they got troops out. they are already last week organising sending NGO's back in. calling it 'support, aid and diplomatic missions"
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September 04, 2021, 05:10:29 AM |
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The US and NATO have failed in Afghanistan, they should give up control of such a country. The people of Afghanistan will have to decide their own destiny. Americans have caused many divisions in the past, such as Korea - South Korea, Vietnam. They failed in Vietnam and now they fail again.
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September 04, 2021, 06:28:33 AM |
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It is a great crime for America to give all its weapons to the Taliban and for Britain to remain silent on it.
Britain will remain silent because their hands are equally bloody. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_arms_exportHuman rights abuses are observed by UK-made fighter jets and bombs in the Saudi-led destruction of Yemen. [...] In April 2020, analysis figures by the CAAT revealed that the UK in 2019 sold arms worth £1.3bn to 26 out of 48 nations classified as “not free” by Freedom House. Or if you want both the US and the UK together in one place, how about: In June 2020, the UK government came under criticism for export of CS gas, teargas and rubber bullets to the USA, which were being used against Black Lives Matter protesters. Nations and companies that export weapons (or sell them domestically) have zero interest in moral concerns. If you make things that kill people, and then sell them, you have a good idea of how they will be used. The only thing they are bothered about is making some $$$. As an example, how about the infamous Block-19, a lethal handgun covered to Lego to make killing fun for the whole family... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fe3.365dm.com%2F21%2F07%2F1600x900%2Fskynews-block-19-lego-culper-precision_5447065.jpg&t=665&c=LPW1UGa6lY7fbw)
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September 04, 2021, 07:15:47 AM |
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The US and NATO have failed in Afghanistan, they should give up control of such a country. The people of Afghanistan will have to decide their own destiny. Americans have caused many divisions in the past, such as Korea - South Korea, Vietnam. They failed in Vietnam and now they fail again.
Nato entitie was founded by bankers "rothshields" they don't actually care so much more than loundry money and let refugees invade paceful countries.
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September 04, 2021, 11:10:52 AM |
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The US and NATO have failed in Afghanistan, they should give up control of such a country. The people of Afghanistan will have to decide their own destiny. Americans have caused many divisions in the past, such as Korea - South Korea, Vietnam. They failed in Vietnam and now they fail again.
Nato entitie was founded by bankers "rothshields" they don't actually care so much more than loundry money and let refugees invade paceful countries. They do it for the money and seek to damage countries that are adversaries of the United States. Their greatest purpose is to inhibit the development of these countries and the arms trade. They are the real demons, the level of capitalism that dominates the world silently.
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September 04, 2021, 01:46:13 PM |
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Don't ever make deals with the Devil. You will surely lose #TAQIYYA
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September 04, 2021, 08:51:14 PM |
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They've already left and flee, there's nothing that they can do much with the situation and little by little, the Taliban will reign most of the places left that they haven't covered yet. The US and NATO have failed in Afghanistan, they should give up control of such a country. The people of Afghanistan will have to decide their own destiny. Americans have caused many divisions in the past, such as Korea - South Korea, Vietnam. They failed in Vietnam and now they fail again.
Don't forget about Syria.
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DashingAgent (OP)
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September 04, 2021, 10:10:47 PM |
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You mean that Trump is devil? or you want to blame the Taliban? Don't ever make deals with the Devil. You will surely lose #TAQIYYA
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September 05, 2021, 08:46:32 AM |
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They've already left and flee, there's nothing that they can do much with the situation and little by little, the Taliban will reign most of the places left that they haven't covered yet. The US and NATO have failed in Afghanistan, they should give up control of such a country. The people of Afghanistan will have to decide their own destiny. Americans have caused many divisions in the past, such as Korea - South Korea, Vietnam. They failed in Vietnam and now they fail again.
Don't forget about Syria. Yes, Syria too. The US government owes the Middle Eastern countries an apology. What a shame for the people of these countries. They must be rich countries because they have a lot of oil, but it is America's remote control that has affected these countries.
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September 05, 2021, 01:28:31 PM |
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Trump is the Devil in this case, the Talibans are God sent to rescue the people of Afghanistan from the corrupt government of the United States of America for 20 years, now they will gorven with the help of China and Russia to be a great country again You mean that Trump is devil? or you want to blame the Taliban? Don't ever make deals with the Devil. You will surely lose #TAQIYYA
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September 06, 2021, 12:04:03 AM |
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You mean that Trump is devil? or you want to blame the Taliban?
Agreements made were worthless. The US has basically re-armed the Taliban while the Taliban have then proceeded to declare China its International partner. The hardware left behind has made the threat from international terrorism grow multitudes from what it was before 9/11 and European allies now face a looming threat because of it. All sanctioned deception on both sides while the real purveyors and inciters of chaos in the media stir the shitstorm to keep the enmity among men going. One day they will write about the freedom fighters tortured in airbases and the next day they will write about the extremists who won't let women vote or anything else they can get one side to hate the other. The Devil sets one against the other and that is where he gets his power over mankind and the devil will only unite mankind once all mankind is united in worship of him alone. The world is edging towards a nuclear cataclysm because of the designs of wicked men who do not understand they are being led astray. The pen is mightier than the sword and the narrative they dance to is the devil's tune. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetimes.co.uk%2Fimageserver%2Fimage%2F%252Fmethode%252Ftimes%252Fprod%252Fweb%252Fbin%252Fea9a093e-09aa-11ec-9503-f24d9e0411ae.jpg%3Fcrop%3D2000%252C1125%252C0%252C129%26resize%3D1200&t=665&c=Hf9HN3gInyeO3Q) #perpetualwars #perpetualcrisis
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September 08, 2021, 06:53:46 PM |
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The Taliban have claimed control of Panjshir with the help of American weapons
It is a great crime for America to give all its weapons to the Taliban and for Britain to remain silent on it. If the United States or Britain wanted, half of the weapons would have been delivered to Panjshir. And it was possible. When the United States started the war in Afghanistan against Al-Qaeda, it had the support of the Northern Alliance. It was now the responsiblity of the United States to help the Northern Alliance. The United States has shied away from its responsiblities in which Britain is equally guilty. After the Taliban take over all of Afghanistan, the United States will no longer be able to help its people and the Afghan people. If a tragedy arises, it will be the responsibility of both the United States and the United Kingdom, and it will be the responsibility of both to help the people trapped in Afghanistan, to save their lives.
I don't really know why the US and it's alliance decided to leave their wapons with the Taliban when they are aware that Afghanistan had been taken by the Taliban. This is a political matters which I thinks something is wrong somewhere and there is a secret behind all these conflicts and corruption we have being seeing through the news and online. The coalition that is responsible for the affairs of peace and liberty have to come in to justify this wickedness and problem that had be created without a definite solution. The US have to come to resolve this great misery, killings and misfortune that had been happening in Afghanistan recently for a definite solution.
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September 08, 2021, 11:19:01 PM |
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It is a great crime for America to give all its weapons to the Taliban and for Britain to remain silent on it.
Britain will remain silent because their hands are equally bloody. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_arms_exportHuman rights abuses are observed by UK-made fighter jets and bombs in the Saudi-led destruction of Yemen. [...] In April 2020, analysis figures by the CAAT revealed that the UK in 2019 sold arms worth £1.3bn to 26 out of 48 nations classified as “not free” by Freedom House. Or if you want both the US and the UK together in one place, how about: In June 2020, the UK government came under criticism for export of CS gas, teargas and rubber bullets to the USA, which were being used against Black Lives Matter protesters. Nations and companies that export weapons (or sell them domestically) have zero interest in moral concerns. If you make things that kill people, and then sell them, you have a good idea of how they will be used. The only thing they are bothered about is making some $$$. As an example, how about the infamous Block-19, a lethal handgun covered to Lego to make killing fun for the whole family... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fe3.365dm.com%2F21%2F07%2F1600x900%2Fskynews-block-19-lego-culper-precision_5447065.jpg&t=665&c=LPW1UGa6lY7fbw) Wow way to deflect on guns in the USA. I'd rather have a right to own a gun and be equal to the criminals and the police then to be caught dead without one waiting for the police to arrive but its too late... So if the US outlawed weapons would the criminals not be able to get one? The answer is a resounding "no". The criminals will use government sources to obtain the weapons illegally or they just make them on their own or from countries like the Philippines that make real Ghost guns that go for $10K in the states (and I'm not talking the Polymer 80 kits as technically they could be traced with finger prints and DNA whereas a Filipino would not be traced as they are foreigners). Hell in Sweden the "migrants" get grenades from their African or Middle East homeland. I bet the Swedes wished they had a few of those or at least a semi-auto gun to protect themselves and ward them away from their homes. What do you think the Taliban are doing right now? Taking the guns from the once-freer peoples of Afghanistan so they can better control them and stomp out any kind of resistance. I'm saying your argument is flawed once America's guns and freedoms are gone then you can clamor for your neo-feudal coffin apartment until they decide times up for you. Anyway... did you see the Glock made to look like a Nerf gun?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP_FUngkYbc&t=1sOr the Nintendo zapper gun that is a Glock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJbS5PYQudQI don't care what you say all three Glocks are bad ass. Back to the total topic and the withdrawal was a total disaster to make America look bad once more on the world stage. It could have gone better as there are still Americans trapped there so the Taliban can bilk more out of Biden. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/people-awaiting-taliban-flight-clearance-from-mazar-i-sharif/100436420
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yes leaving equipment, weapons and vehicles behind looks like a silly thing to do. but i bet if you look deep enough that there was probably a deal like: 'let american troops leave peacefully and here is your compensation, weapons and vehicles we'll leave behind'
But even then the Biden administration trusted the Taliban to let Americans to the airport, after telling everyone he didn't trust the Taliban. So which one was it? He also seemed to know that the Taliban was taking up areas of and in his phone call to the President, this is after telling the public that the Taliban would not take over so quickly. If he thought the Taliban would be such a large threat, disabling the weapons systems was the move, even if it was written in the deal. Why didn't he? Either a strategic failure or an intel failure.
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