Copy/paste only with source

[Little Mouse]

There are a few users who used to copy/paste from different sources and share the article/news on the forum and share a source link below of the article. Basically, the users don't add anything of their own which really seems awkward. If you are not putting your opinion, why would you only copy/paste this?
I think this is not counted as plagiarism as it has source link but this is not good too though forum allows this.
Don't you think this should be fix? Will the rules ever be changed?

[suchmoon]

Technically these should be deleted as low value posts - rule #1 - but the enforcement of that rule is quite spotty.

My favorite: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357066.0

He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.

[mk4]

If you are not putting your opinion, why would you only copy/paste this?

A lot of times, some people think that when they post a long article here, that they will be given merits.

Don't you think this should be fix? Will the rules ever be changed?

I haven't made my mind on this. I don't think it should be totally forbidden to share articles, but it surely is annoying as some users sure do it a lot. Probably allowed if people do it once in a while(sometimes people probably just like to share certain news), but forbidden when a user does it excessively?

[Jawhead999]

I don't think it should be fix, though it's subjective. Usually this kind of posts appear on Announcement/Service thread either Bitcoin or Altcoins section, those users share a news about the project/service. Report to moderator is the best solution just like @suchmoon pointed out, but IMO campaign manager should be more strict to not count these posts if it still not got deleted yet.

Press section is the appropriate board to share a Bitcoin news in general, but for Altcoins I don't have any idea.

A lot of times, some people think that when they post a long article here, that they will be given merits.

Or they do to fill up the post requirement of their campaign.

[Charles-Tim]

Don't you think this should be fix? Will the rules ever be changed?

Copying/pasting the whole contents of an article and including link can be so annoying but there can never be such rules to against such users so far the contents they copied and pasted here with link included is not considered spam, but it should be what we should be discouraging.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I see posts like this a lot. Many newbies like to accumulate messages to increase activity, and some even manage to get merits. I've tried complaining to the moderators, but it doesn't work, especially if it's a new topic that has already been answered by other users.
But what to say about copy-paste with the source, my last reports on plagiarism also remain unprocessed, although there is more than needed evidence. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg57842377#msg57842377

[isaac_clarke22]

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Or they do to fill up the post requirement of their campaign.

Sometimes they do those to earn visitors or clicks to their own crappy articles. Not sure if they earn revenue from those, but surely it is a low value post as what suchmoon mentioned.

[DdmrDdmr]

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I too tend to report them for being cero added value post. Occasionally, if the account is a Newbie or so, I may be in the mood to try to point out why that type of post is of now value. Some change their habits, most don’t.

Since they can be reported for what they are, there doesn’t seem to be any need for a change (ideally though, all copy/pasted text could/should be quoted for better visual distinction, even when a link is provided).

[UserU]

Technically these should be deleted as low value posts - rule #1 - but the enforcement of that rule is quite spotty.

My favorite: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357066.0

He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.

For a so-called news site, using subdomains seem pretty sus right off the bat.

[dkbit98]

There are a few users who used to copy/paste from different sources and share the article/news on the forum and share a source link below of the article. Basically, the users don't add anything of their own which really seems awkward. If you are not putting your opinion, why would you only copy/paste this?

You should post some examples or members you noticed doing this, but I see this thing more and more especially in Bitcoin discussion section.
I doubt moderators will do anything about it because it's not strictly against the rules, and I don't think it can be fixed.
What I would do is move all this posts in Press section, if they don't have anything to comment or if they copy-paste everything from original source.
Temporary solution for me is Ignoring members who repeat doing this, and my Ignore list is growing every day

[suchmoon]

For a so-called news site, using subdomains seem pretty sus right off the bat.

It's not a news site, it's a batshit conspiracy blog but that's besides the point, P&S board is full of that

Even if someone posted links from BBC that way, it would still be a low value post. It's a clear copy-pasta / link spam. Probably worse that what the OP described since there isn't even a quote, although just adding a quote without any attempt to make a coherent point about it and/or start a discussion would still be zero value spam and should fall under rule #1.

[Lucius]

There are a few users who used to copy/paste from different sources and share the article/news on the forum and share a source link below of the article. Basically, the users don't add anything of their own which really seems awkward...

This is nothing new on the forum, there were users who did it for a very long time, but mostly spamming the Press board. Although this form of posting is not against the rules, I also think that moderators could react much better when someone reports such a post - especially if the user, in addition to the already mentioned tactics (copy/paste), also missed the board where the post should be.

I will also give a concrete example of a user whom I believe most have noticed in Bitcoin discussion and Economy, and this is his post history @Leviathan.007.

When someone gets 4 merits for such a post, then it only encourages them to continue with it - and we all know that it is a post in which he literally invested less than 10 seconds.

[sirazimuth]

Technically these should be deleted as low value posts - rule #1 - but the enforcement of that rule is quite spotty.

My favorite: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357066.0

He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.

For a so-called news site, using subdomains seem pretty sus right off the bat.

It's not a news site, it's a batshit conspiracy blog but that's besides the point, P&S board is full of that

Even if someone posted links from BBC that way, it would still be a low value post. It's a clear copy-pasta / link spam. Probably worse that what the OP described since there isn't even a quote, although just adding a quote without any attempt to make a coherent point about it and/or start a discussion would still be zero value spam and should fall under rule #1.

As soon as I saw who OP (of quoted thread) was I was like,  oh Jeeezus, what a surprise. The spamming copy pasta batshit crazy, lunacy link king of the P+S Boards.
I swear if that idiot ceased his trolling posting, the intelligence of this forum would go up ten fold.

[macson]

i also think so, is it too difficult to make additional words that are written personally and not just copy-paste?  i see those who just copy-paste articles and don't make their own words to complete the topic that will he or she made are "lazy person"

Technically these should be deleted as low value posts - rule #1 - but the enforcement of that rule is quite spotty.

My favorite: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357066.0

He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.

maybe the moderators are tired of deleting his or her posts "lol"

[witcher_sense]

If you are looking for prominent examples of "news-like" posts with zero-effort from a topic starter, then you should definitely check Russian locale's Hoвocти section. Thousands of topics with zero replies clearly show that no one is interested in discussing the topic if the author didn't bother to add his own thoughts. Such behavior discourages any discussions and is harmful to the forum.

[PrimeNumber7]

If you are not putting your opinion, why would you only copy/paste this?

A lot of times, some people think that when they post a long article here, that they will be given merits.

In the past, people were given merit for these types of posts. Often, the source link is in very small font, and what appears to be a useful post is actually something with no original content from a single source.

If an article is copied, and there is not sufficient additional content or commentary, the post will likely be against copyright laws. I don't think the forum attracts enough traffic, nor does this happen enough for most news organizations to really care about this happening here though.

[Smartvirus]

Lack of ideas is what promotes these tendencies in users. It might fall within the forum rules to have put up the link and that erases the fact of a plagiarised content but, its really annoying. Coming up to discover this rule, it was such that, it applies when the content of a post is so awesome and straight to the point that adding or subtracting a line seems to change the context of the message but then, some users have capitalised on it to plagiarise and spam whole being shadowed by posting a link. It's annoying and discourages any form of originality.

I think one way to put this in check is, not meriting them and should it be an account in a signature campaign, such post should  be considered a low quality post and not counted as it lacks originality.

[GeorgeJohn]

I noticed that while some people adventure into copy and paste work is because they are inquisitive to rank up to another level and also they are lazy of making their own post, it's obvious that this community is made of initiative and creativity and people that Lacks such ability is people that duely engaged into copy and paste articles, and some of them do it intensionally while some do it out of ignorance from my perspective.

[BitMaxz]

I think they need to add a new rule about making a post like that because I saw many posts these days copy/pasted with a source link and they are now spreading.
It's doesn't have any effort and no value unless if they added some of their own words before they copy/paste including the source link.

I know spammers change their strategy due to plagiarism at least we already see the effect of banning those who copying and pasting from another source. Now they are copying and include the source link which is still annoying.

[Pmalek]

Unfortunately this is not something that can be observed only on Bitcointalk. In today's social-media dominated world, I am sure many of you have come across those new blogs and news sites that bombard you with recent headlines and clickbait. When you start reading the content, you think this is actually not bad. But then when you are done, you notice the last part that says source and points to a popular news agency. All copy/pasted word for word with no original content. But since they added the source, they are good to go.