[Question] Bounty and Alt Account Connection

[joeperry]

This just came up in my mind, I have seen some topic here about a bounty manager where he enroll his own alt accounts to the project he handles. Since anyone can use the form to sign up in the campaign some people can do anything such as this:

[1] Anyone can use the bounty manager's address or anyone's address with their multiple entries and newly created account to destroy reputation and of course they will be reported and how will the DT will handle such thing since there's no way to know whether the report is real or not.

[2] Some users will intentionally transfer some funds to some certain addresses such as the manager's address or other user's address and report it that it's connected to their account.

[3] I would like to add this one. Some user will use banned account user's address and use it to same thing enroll to bounty or transfer amount to their target address. And will report as ban evasion.

Here are some loopholes I see, everyone is vulnerable to such thing. Some user might create multiple newbie accounts, register with same addresses (of their target user) to multiple bounties and intentionally transfer the reward to their target user and report them that it's connected to that user. I'm curious how will the DT handle such thing, even if their target user is telling the truth that they were just a set up to ruin their reputation?


Disclaimer: This is just a hypothetical but it's possible to happen or might already happening to some individuals.

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[YOSHIE]

Your question for me the answer is 'bad' treatment that there is no tolerance for those who do it, for victims who can prove that they have nothing to do with members of the ill treatment, my response is fine, not for members who do, that's a different story.

I've handled cases like that, novice members who use the identity of other members participate in the Bounty.

Example:
Topic: Account of committing a crime.

They register, using address, twitter, facebook etc.
After checking, it turns out that the user who is actually the original owner has never participated in the Bounty campaign and they admit it.

So, actions for members who do bad deeds like that should be marked it can damage the reputation of others, that's just a few cases, But not a little bit it's true they are real Alt, cornered admit, it's uncle, aunt etc.

Conclusion: there are own methods to prove such cases, usually knowing their situation is alt genuine or not alt stealing someone else's property, only those who ride the case know the origin of the game, usually it doesn't get picked up right away, it takes a week, then it's lifted and knows the truth.

[Jawhead999]

Good question, of course it will be handled case by case and that's how decentralized trust system created isn't? Each DT member can leave feedback based on their perspective whether positive, neutral or negative tag. We will see many drama and conspiracy created, DT member will review of their accounts and determine he's really cheating or not.

If those bots are newbie account or even legendary with negative trust (trolls) that using the manager address, we can easily determine they want to destroy the manager reputation. If they're high rank accounts especially with good reputation+merit, it's really hard to make a conclusion since who on earth want destroy his own account... climb into high rank isn't really that easy, you really need effort and time. Gladly moderators in this forum doesn't quickly banned a ban evaders, so he have time to speak up.

Just like this user handle his case when someone accusing him https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg56112198#msg56112198

[nutildah]

This just came up in my mind, I have seen some topic here about a bounty manager where he enroll his own alt accounts to the project he handles. Since anyone can use the form to sign up in the campaign some people can do anything such as this:

[1] Anyone can use the bounty manager's address or anyone's address with their multiple entries and newly created account to destroy reputation and of course they will be reported and how will the DT will handle such thing since there's no way to know whether the report is real or not.

[2] Some users will intentionally transfer some funds to some certain addresses such as the manager's address or other user's address and report it that it's connected to their account.

These are some valid points and as was previously pointed out, these situations have happened before. I would expect DT to look at the totality of any situation before issuing judgment.

For me personally, I don't think its a good idea to declare accounts as alts because of a single coin/token transfer, but it could certainly be a piece of evidence in a much larger puzzle.

[3] I would like to add this one. Some user will use banned account user's address and use it to same thing enroll to bounty or transfer amount to their target address. And will report as ban evasion.

I wouldn't worry about this being a problem... You're saying somebody registers in a bounty with somebody else's ETH address, gets banned, and then reports the ETH address owner for ban evasion? That seems like a lot of work...

[lovesmayfamilis]

I think everything is very simple here. Any newbie who wants to hurt someone will use the person's address after the owner himself has used it. I think everything is logical enough?
To transfer funds to one wallet, additional links will also be used. This is either a repeated number of users who throw everything into one wallet and at the same time, they make such transactions more than once. And also the connection between them by other coincidences.
Well, the third question is also quite simple. You use the address of a blocked account after the account has been blocked, please also go to the ban.
Everything is clear enough.

[SFR10]

@joeperry
I made a "somewhat" similar thread a few years back ^{[some of the responses would come in handy]}: A question regarding duplicate/alt accounts that join bounties!

[1] Anyone can use the bounty manager's address or anyone's address with their multiple entries and newly created account to destroy reputation and of course they will be reported and how will the DT will handle such thing since there's no way to know whether the report is real or not.

In addition to some of the above comments, @Welsh made a good point as well:

• Due diligence needs to be taken whenever anyone is considering tagging anyone. Your case example has almost certainly happened, but there should be other things to consider. For example, post history is normally a good indicator. People are their own downfalls to habits. We all have habits, and unique styles of writing.
  
  There's also the possibility of doing time analysis to identify whether the alleged connected accounts timing links up together. It's not really same address = connected.
  

[2] Some users will intentionally transfer some funds to some certain addresses such as the manager's address or other user's address and report it that it's connected to their account.

But they can't sign a message ^{[unless we're dealing with a compromised private key]} from those addresses, so it doesn't matter

[joeperry]

Thank you for all your answer guys, I'm just really curious on how are you going to deal such thing since for me it's really a bit of difficult topic and I just want to know the response of the DT users that's why I post this but all seems clear to me now, there's a lot of things to consider in terms of this kind of situation/problem.

Thank you for response and time DT users, I really do appreciate the answers. I'll be locking this thread now.