Ban Appeal for Pokapoka124

[Lucius]

It is not for me to say what the global mod or the admin will decide about your ban, but I will say that in your specific case there was more than an obvious intention to incorporate someone else's work into your posts. You started your posts with the original content, and then you add plagiarized content, which is one of the worst ways to plagiarize - except maybe those that also use word spinning.

A signature ban in my case would be mercy. I will accept such mercy if given. Being a member of the forum is more important to me

Everyone deserves a second chance, and many have got it - so I see no reason why that chance should not be given in this case with the signature ban.

[Gozie51]

You yourself are talking about plagiarism in your topic: Plagiarism: Where Do We Draw the Line? referring to the rules. It was a month and a half before your ban. You talk about newbies and their plagiarism and at the same time fall for plagiarism, as you claim, which was written at the time when you were a newbie.

That is, you talk about it by telling others, but you are not able to apply your statements to yourself. This is strange.

This is true. No argument there. The plagiarised posts were in my early days and are coming back to haunt me. The Plagiarism: Where Do We Draw the Line? was created in a quest to question the extent of plagiarism. It was at this point I was becoming more aware of the dangers of such actions. In an attempt to throw light on plagiarism it's ironic I didn't  to question myself. Its not so funny at this point that I lacked the insight to look at my ownself. That is my blind spot. I seek repentance and plead for retribution

Thank you all for your sympathy and understanding. I really appreciate it. A signature ban in my case would be mercy. I will accept such mercy if given. Being a member of the forum is more important to me

No doubt here that this user have violated the rule of the forum to which he has come to beg for forgiveness and a second chance. I won't consider his post as an appeal but an apology from someone who realizes he has done more grievous harm by preaching the sermon but not being sure of how clean his own actions are.

It is quite different with the other user's case though but rather than a total throwaway of the child and the bath water, if the mod could have a retribution for him that can still allow him a chance to start preaching and doing the act in same manner, he can realize the gravity of plagiarism. Plagiarism is an offence of intellitual property and frowned at even in real world. I think he is begging for a signature ban at least to have a chance to continue with the forum going forward. But is up to the mods to take a decision better for the forum.

[Rockstarguy]

I feel sorry for your case. I congratulated you on your new rank not long ago. Pray the mods will reconsider your case because your good work for exposing scams was really helpful to me. I read your shots and know how scammers reason. You have contributed to the forum  as an active member, I wish let there be a second chance in your case. Good luck

[RapTarX]

This is true. No argument there. The plagiarised posts were in my early days and are coming back to haunt me. The Plagiarism: Where Do We Draw the Line? was created in a quest to question the extent of plagiarism. It was at this point I was becoming more aware of the dangers of such actions. In an attempt to throw light on plagiarism it's ironic I didn't  to question myself. Its not so funny at this point that I lacked the insight to look at my ownself. That is my blind spot. I seek repentance and plead for retribution

A plagiarist has written about plagiarism and it’s rule on the forum! How much hypocrite someone can be? You are an example for them. Didn’t you know you had a copy/paste post prior to creating that thread? I don’t think you deserve a chance though you seem to be good for the forum. You knew that you have plagiarized but didn’t bother to delete that knowing it’s forbidden in the forum.

[HaleyOccam]

Plagiarism is an unforgivable thing in this forum, no matter who it is. In the Bitcoin forum, you can have no original articles, as long as you indicate the source. Just like Ratimov. I want to say a swear word, rubbish regulations. I am not challenging the administrators or moderators, but I think this will kill some people's enthusiasm. Bitcoin forum has a lot of attractions to me. What the forum hates is scammers. Compared with plagiarism, I hate some bounty hunters, especially the TWITTER standard will pay attention to each other 100%. Can we focus on the key points and don't get entangled in what we do. The only criterion for judging whether it is a scammer is whether to defraud the bounty and forum members' money. Bounty programs and signature events increase the difficulty of participation. You cannot participate in precipitation without time.

[BITCOIN4X]

Plagiarism is an unforgivable thing in this forum, no matter who it is.

I think it will be resolved case by case by moderators. I've read it dozens of times so that it becomes a provision where 1 mistake made by a forum contributor in the past (unintentional, or for other reasonable reasons) can still be considered by the moderator not to ban it. You can't say the rules should same apply to all forum users, although I will not support plagiarism but the moderator's gentle attitude to forum contributors is highly expected. Losing one useful contributor to a forum with 1 error is not worth the hundreds of spammers there are.

[UserU]

Mpamaegbu had a strong case during his appeal. For this one, we have to see what @hilariousandco says.

[Lucius]

Mpamaegbu had a strong case during his appeal. For this one, we have to see what @hilariousandco says.

The two cases are quite different, although they are both linked by a plagiarism charge. @Mpamaegbu just forgot to add a source link, and that's why his situation was resolved so quickly. What @Pokapoka124 did is far more serious and it's plagiarism that was done with premeditation, aware that it was wrong - but assuming no one would catch him.

[UserU]

The two cases are quite different, although they are both linked by a plagiarism charge. @Mpamaegbu just forgot to add a source link, and that's why his situation was resolved so quickly. What @Pokapoka124 did is far more serious and it's plagiarism that was done with premeditation, aware that it was wrong - but assuming no one would catch him.

Ah, that pretty much means a dead end for that fella if that's the case

[Lucius]

Ah, that pretty much means a dead end for that fella if that's the case

This does not mean that there is no chance that the whole thing will be resolved positively in his favor, just that the case is much more complicated than the one you are comparing it to. Maybe it would be fair to expect a temporary ban + signature ban as a fair punishment, although now it's all up to global mods/admins.

[lovesmayfamilis]

In addition, everyone can see that plagiarism was not the only one if you check all the edited topics. He edited his former started threads and even when plagiarism was discovered.
It seems to me not entirely fair, although I have always considered this guy to be promising in terms of growth on the forum. I do not think that editing at the time of plagiarism catching should change or somehow convince the moderators. Most likely this is another attempt to cheat, clinging to the last hope. This is just another minus in admitting guilt.

[GeorgeJohn]

In addition, everyone can see that plagiarism was not the only one if you check all the edited topics. He edited his former started threads and even when plagiarism was discovered.
It seems to me not entirely fair, although I have always considered this guy to be promising in terms of growth on the forum. I do not think that editing at the time of plagiarism catching should change or somehow convince the moderators. Most likely this is another attempt to cheat, clinging to the last hope. This is just another minus in admitting guilt.

The problem i found out that made a moderator not to pay attention is that he made a post of Plagiarism, in which the topic were emphasising and kicking against plagiarised article, so already the post itself has justify him, because you can't advice someone to abstain from something ease and continue to pushing or forcing and practicing the same, it's totally absolutely wrong, editing post's after been caught for violation's of law can't neither help anyone who commit crime, i was solicting for a temporary ban because i know how painful it's to lose a grown account of such nature, i think this is a lesson to newbies including existing users.

[Lucius]

Probably yes. Here the ban is already permanent and it is almost impossible to correct the situation, since the plagiarism did not have a random nature of origin.

Don't be pessimistic, some have been waiting for days, some for months, and some for years - it is important for the OP to show perseverance and get as much support as possible from the forum members. Nothing is impossible, everything can be corrected and fixed.

[KingsDen]

I do not think that editing at the time of plagiarism catching should change or somehow convince the moderators. Most likely this is another attempt to cheat, clinging to the last hope. This is just another minus in admitting guilt.

Looking at it from this angle, I asked this question before.

If someone is accused of plagiarism in a particular post, does the person have the right to edit the post(add citation)under accusation

I want to know your opinion if editing a post at the time of plagiarism accusation is a sign of playing smart or that of being remorseful.

[GeorgeJohn]

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It's good if that's the case. Then can advise Pokapoka124 to stop justifying his plagiarism by the fact that he was a newbie, etc., and fully admit that he repeatedly copied someone else's text without a link and agrees to take the path of correction.

I could say when this guy called pokapoka124 commit this crime of plagiarism maybe is not aware of the rules and regulations of the community, because many people when they are a beginner to this noble institution they don't care to know the rules that controls the environment, because assuming he knew, he wont has created a topic of plagiarism which we are using to justify the account pkpk124, because i don't think someone will intensional plagiarised article because of to earn a Merit.

[tranthidung]

because i don't think someone will intensional plagiarised article because of to earn a Merit.

It is your assumption that could be right or wrong but it could be wrong in my opinion.

Generally ^{I'm not talking about Pokapoka124}, bounty hunters copy and paste to get post quota or suddenly change from bounty report, one-line posts to a long one (but plagiarized) just to try earning one merit (to rank up) and get higher stake for their bounty job.

Sharing a good article is a good way to earn merit from what I see. It brings more impression if readers think the topic is original, not plagiarized.

[GeorgeJohn]

because i don't think someone will intensional plagiarised article because of to earn a Merit.

It is your assumption that could be right or wrong but it could be wrong in my opinion.

Generally ^{I'm not talking about Pokapoka124}, bounty hunters copy and paste to get post quota or suddenly change from bounty report, one-line posts to a long one (but plagiarized) just to try earning one merit (to rank up) and get higher stake for their bounty job.

Sharing a good article is a good way to earn merit from what I see. It brings more impression if readers think the topic is original, not plagiarized.

Actually you are right, because the measure that motivates them to claim authorship of articles is the quality of the article and with that it will enable them to earn a Merit, right now, it's obvious that quality post attracts Merit and that is the reason why some many  users enroll or commit crime of plagiarism, after reading meaning into your respond via this, i have to come in conclusion that you're right.

[Smartvirus]

You can't say the rules should same apply to all forum users, although I will not support plagiarism but the moderator's gentle attitude to forum contributors is highly expected. Losing one useful contributor to a forum with 1 error is not worth the hundreds of spammers there are.

This is one way I've been looking at this case. I feel for the user, really. Looking at the accounts rise and what job its been doing as per forum contribution, I'm sure there would have been more good from this user in the near future. It was out rightly wrong to have plagiarised and trying to cite an accused post for plagiarism seemed some worth fishy but, its just a position the pressure of loosing an account could create. You try to think fast and then thought wrong.

I really wish to see the likes of Pokapoka124 in the forum once more. The forums greater good is what's of the essence plus, we all have to do do our best in maintaining forum decorum. I'm sure the user must have learnt a lesson of this. Mercy please!

[examplens]

I want to know your opinion if editing a post at the time of plagiarism accusation is a sign of playing smart or that of being remorseful.

it means a plagiarist doesn't think it's a mistake he did it. He edits posts just to prevent a potential ban and save his account, not because he did something dishonourable by appropriating someone’s work. therefore, it is completely selfish, because it is a forced reaction in order to preserve personal gain.

[Daniel91]

Probably yes. Here the ban is already permanent and it is almost impossible to correct the situation, since the plagiarism did not have a random nature of origin.

Don't be pessimistic, some have been waiting for days, some for months, and some for years - it is important for the OP to show perseverance and get as much support as possible from the forum members. Nothing is impossible, everything can be corrected and fixed.

Yes, I remember that case with RegulusHr very well.
His case is still quite different from this case from the OP because first of all RegulusHr immediately admitted his mistake, apologized and also the whole local community absolutely supported him without any hesitation.
Regulus has really managed to prove to the admins and moderators of this forum that his case is unique, that his significance for this forum goes beyond the level of his mistake and that he therefore deserves a new opportunity.
I don't see anything like that in the example from OP for now.