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September 06, 2021, 04:50:44 PM
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According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

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September 06, 2021, 05:01:48 PM
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Businessmen taking advantage of the poor people's desire to have more money is common in all parts of the world. You see a lot of poor people flock lottery booths and different gambling places so I'm more surprised to read the statements of the people in the news article as if it's something new. "Disturbing" hehehe
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September 06, 2021, 05:26:53 PM
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Businessmen taking advantage of the poor people's desire to have more money is common in all parts of the world. You see a lot of poor people flock lottery booths and different gambling places so I'm more surprised to read the statements of the people in the news article as if it's something new. "Disturbing" hehehe

Not just disturbing but ethically and morally wrong. People have to understand that things are fine only if they are done in a certain way, the businesses are for sure flocking to take advantage of the *hope* that a poor person would have and because of that hope he would buy a lot of lotteries but at the same time, how would they live with it ?


I do think that business men are delusional for sure, they have to help these sector, instead of actually stripping them off of whatever they have.

We have to change this way of thinking for sure.

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September 06, 2021, 05:38:18 PM
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Ohh this is actually very harmful to the society long-term. When you target a specific group of people towards an activity which is highly addicting, it only means one thing- profit for the business owners. Now, if you talk about the unprivileged sector of society, this may not only harm their livelihood but this would cascade into much more bigger problem in the future.

I do hope that the government can somehow intervene in this process by implementing a higher tax rates on these business establishments.
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September 06, 2021, 05:56:00 PM
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There seems to be an almost identical thread on this topic, but I forget where it is. What is clear about gambling in places that exist in the poorest areas and its establishment is also quite controversial. Because some think that this is meant to give people more work in that place so they can become employees in it. Despite the rumors circulating, that the presence of gambling in the area is often associated with lower taxes, and as a means for the rich to spend more money at the casino.

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September 06, 2021, 06:10:43 PM
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Ohh this is actually very harmful to the society long-term. When you target a specific group of people towards an activity which is highly addicting, it only means one thing- profit for the business owners.
This is also the reason why you see a lot of sports betting places in rather dubious areas here. However, the pubs are packed, bets are made and a lot of alcohol is consumed, the visitors are certainly not from the middle class but probably spend money that they do not have. Such stores are often also reloading points for drugs and similar things.

The operators earn a golden nose with it of course and pull up a pub after the other to be able to strip even more profits.

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September 06, 2021, 06:17:49 PM
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According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

We've already discussed it here. Based on what we have noticed that our not being there is a barrier to addressing the seriousness of the problem of having casinos in some parts of the UK. Wherever they want to be, in the end they are still under the supervision of the local government and still provide opportunities for people around them not to take this too seriously.

Maybe it's cultural differences that make this all we don't understand. However based on the article you shared, there is significant revenue from Casino on the government which does not add to the economic growth in the region.

Furthermore, the impact on society in this article is also emphasized by the community on the other side, in other words, the existence of Casino has limitations in order to minimize things that have a negative impact on the surrounding community.


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September 06, 2021, 06:34:53 PM
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Ohh this is actually very harmful to the society long-term. When you target a specific group of people towards an activity which is highly addicting, it only means one thing- profit for the business owners. Now, if you talk about the unprivileged sector of society, this may not only harm their livelihood but this would cascade into much more bigger problem in the future.

I do hope that the government can somehow intervene in this process by implementing a higher tax rates on these business establishments.
I am not so sure that the poor are being targeted and this is simply about rent being cheaper at poor neighborhoods, it is true that businesses were created with the intention of making money and that is the reason they exist at all, however just as important as earning money is to not spend money on unnecessary things, and an expensive rent falls into that category.

Also if 21% of those establishments are on poor areas while 2% are on rich areas does not that mean that 77% are on middle class areas? Why no one is worried more about them? As if there is a population being targeted it seems it is the middle class and not the poor.
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September 06, 2021, 06:38:56 PM
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According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?
A typical scenario of a wealthy individual taking advantage of the poor, in which the government is also abusing the taxes paid by the people. So, I don't believe there are laws that prohibit these types of situations because, as I previously stated, politicians are also motivated by a desire for status and to be at the top. Furthermore, large businesses are the ones who pay the most taxes, so I don't see why the government should impose a ban.
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September 06, 2021, 07:10:03 PM
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According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

The financially poor in society like to try out their luck hoping that someone in doing so they run into wealth, that's why you can also notice that in some countries where birth is not regulated, the poor people give birth to the most number of children sometimes also in the hope that one must get rich.

If gambling outlets are sited in areas where the high class in society stays, they will not make much sales because unlike the poor, the rich do not have intentions to walk into small gambling outlets in the hope to get rich. If they gamble, they rather like to do it big and have fun while at it like the casino's and at their convenience like gambling online.

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September 06, 2021, 07:27:00 PM
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According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?
poverty is the result of a mindset and surely gambling addicts who are in that poor areas spend all their income on gambling. I really support that the local government should monitor the behavior of its citizens and treatment those who are seriously addicted to gambling.

if necessary they must take strict action against gambling players who do not have good/stable income but are very addicted to gambling.

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September 06, 2021, 07:28:30 PM
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According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

Will companies benefit more out of targeting poor utilizying their platform to yield them more benefits? I don't think so. The more money comes in, the more  benefits would be right? Poor might not go beyond their extend even after pledging their assets for gambling. Its the rich audience or where money is flooded in especially metro cities. I have been in London and if I exactly remember, I have seen casinos in busy areas.

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September 06, 2021, 09:15:19 PM
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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?
There is nothing that should be done than letting people to know how gambling can be very risky, making sure under 18 do not gamble. They can make gambling more regulated and restricted but people will be the ones that will be complaining that the government are not giving them freedom. For example, anyone that is not earning should not gamble and also only 5% or less of their monthly wages or salary can be used for gambling, this law will be good if monitored but people will say it is lack of freedom on their own money, people are difficult to handle.

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September 06, 2021, 09:26:46 PM
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This topic has been discussed already and many really don’t see as a good one but for me, those businesses are just doing their business, they tend to expand and maybe those poos areas are more feasible to them and maybe they really tend to attract more gamblers on that area, we can’t really know what’s the standard of building casinos there and why they are able to secure a permit.
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September 06, 2021, 09:59:28 PM
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Businessmen taking advantage of the poor people's desire to have more money is common in all parts of the world. You see a lot of poor people flock lottery booths and different gambling places so I'm more surprised to read the statements of the people in the news article as if it's something new. "Disturbing" hehehe
It doesnt really need some critical thinking as a business owner and you do know its just simple understanding or basics about human need and this is where they do really make some
advantageous step towards it and yes it do sounds non-ethical but this is should how business works for it to sustain and profitable.Poor places with poor people will surely
be having that kind of mindset on where getting profits in shortest time as possible without much effort will surely fit out on gambling and this is where aims and motivation
came from which means automatically profit for the casino.

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September 06, 2021, 10:39:23 PM
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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

I think the topic was already discussed. I just can't remember who's the thread starter or I think it's you?

Anyways back to the subject, just want to point out your thought about people should have minimum wage when it comes to gambling. For me, that was easy to say but can't be applied that simply. There's no such thing as gamblers will consider their salary just to place a bet especially at these people living in deprived areas where they like to earn more to survived their financial difficulties.

The fact that there are more gambling outlets in the deprived areas, people here have lots of opportunities to play with their luck. Since they are poor or let's say average earners, they can't avoid hoping for a big win. Maybe to regulate this or if the government have a plan of controlling the gambling behaviours in the deprived areas, they should limit the gambling owners and operators to establish gambling outlets in those areas.

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September 06, 2021, 10:40:37 PM
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I think most would agree drug and substance abuse are bigger issues for those living in poverty than gambling. The homeless are usually found on the streets pumped full of drugs in a daze or thinking about their next fix.

Poverty is associated with lowest levels of education, self control and self discipline. Which makes them a persistent target for predatory practices. Years ago, for profit colleges in the USA targeted the homeless for government sponsored university scholarships. (Which is part of how the US student loan bubble grew so large) The poor are always being targeted and influenced, usually for the worse.

As things are, I would have to guess gambling is the least of their problems.
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September 06, 2021, 10:45:11 PM
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Not new. If I'm also a gambling owner, I will setup my business into deprived areas since it's easy to lure people there. Even with no interest in gambling, people on deprived areas will do gambling hoping that someday they will hit that jackpot and changed their lives for good forever.

That thing won't be stopped. Maybe the government thinks of putting a much restriction before people can enter this establishments. In that way, not all are free to enter the establishment to play gambling.

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September 06, 2021, 11:29:55 PM
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According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

Will companies benefit more out of targeting poor utilizying their platform to yield them more benefits? I don't think so. The more money comes in, the more  benefits would be right? Poor might not go beyond their extend even after pledging their assets for gambling. Its the rich audience or where money is flooded in especially metro cities. I have been in London and if I exactly remember, I have seen casinos in busy areas.

The government in the area allows the gambling outlets to operate because the government also benefits from it and the people also get a job in these companies. These benefits overshadow the effects on the people who will engage in gambling activities. These gambling outlets lobbied the government officials and perhaps government officials themselves own these gambling outlets too.




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September 06, 2021, 11:37:52 PM
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According to the source :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.

Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.

How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ?

Will companies benefit more out of targeting poor utilizying their platform to yield them more benefits? I don't think so. The more money comes in, the more  benefits would be right? Poor might not go beyond their extend even after pledging their assets for gambling. Its the rich audience or where money is flooded in especially metro cities. I have been in London and if I exactly remember, I have seen casinos in busy areas.

The government in the area allows the gambling outlets to operate because the government also benefits from it and the people also get a job in these companies. These benefits overshadow the effects on the people who will engage in gambling activities. These gambling outlets lobbied the government officials and perhaps government officials themselves own these gambling outlets too.

Possible that some of them might really be government-owned!

Its no brainer that government would really take benefits too knowing that gambling businesses does have big revenue and with some percentage in terms of tax then it would really be that beneficial.

They wouldnt care if how many gamblers would wrekt out their lives or emptied their wallet as long they would benefit out on the long run and building it on deprived areas is just a brilliant idea on someone
who do really think off about serious business.

Sacrifice others for profits? Nothing surprising here.Business is business as always.

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