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September 13, 2021, 12:05:45 PM |
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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ? It's pretty normal for the poor and working class people to get more easily addicted to gambling. My country has way lower standard of living,compared to the UK,and casinos are everywhere. What do you mean by "minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling"? Do you suggest that the government should raise the minimum wages,so that more people could gamble? I disagree.Funding the gambling addictions of many people won't lead to anything good.This won't improve their lives for sure,but it might have the opposite effect. In many countries gambling is banned in most areas and permitted in certain cities only. Just like the USA,gambling is banned in most states,but it's allowed in Nevada and Georgia. Minimum wages will not help to reduce the global increase in gambling addictions; it is still dependent on the individual's mentality. Even if it costs a lot of money, if a person is desperate for a small percentage win, they will do it because most of them are getting fomo'd and just gambling without thinking or analyzing the situation they're in. Actually, USA made a good choice of having a specific area where they can gamble so then people will not just go around, play gamble anytime they want and get addicted to it since gambling was purposely made for entertainment with the involvement of money. Exactly. If it's possible, the only way to remove gambling addiction is to ban all of the gambling platforms, physical casinos, lotteries, and other form of gambling. Nonetheless, since it is business, there's no way it would happen. Business earns money through people's desires, and it's a cycle. The Government earn taxes from gambling, the gambling businesses earn money from gamblers, and gamblers earn money from gambling, however, not all gamblers are earning money from it.
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September 13, 2021, 12:22:20 PM |
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Exactly.
If it's possible, the only way to remove gambling addiction is to ban all of the gambling platforms, physical casinos, lotteries, and other form of gambling. Nonetheless, since it is business, there's no way it would happen. Business earns money through people's desires, and it's a cycle. The Government earn taxes from gambling, the gambling businesses earn money from gamblers, and gamblers earn money from gambling, however, not all gamblers are earning money from it.
The cycles got one common thing, it's all about the money. Gamblers play in hope to win money, while casino owners are taking advantage knowing that from this misconception they will earn from their patrons, while in the other side, government are getting money with the implemented taxes and some casino workers are also earning money from their salaries. We will keep seeing this cycle the only solution is to ban if the government is serious about taking good care of this problem, restriction about ages or wages will not work as there are always possible ways to bypass or tweak these informations.
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September 13, 2021, 01:18:17 PM |
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Exactly.
If it's possible, the only way to remove gambling addiction is to ban all of the gambling platforms, physical casinos, lotteries, and other form of gambling. Nonetheless, since it is business, there's no way it would happen. Business earns money through people's desires, and it's a cycle. The Government earn taxes from gambling, the gambling businesses earn money from gamblers, and gamblers earn money from gambling, however, not all gamblers are earning money from it.
This will not happen, not because it is a business or not a business. This approach is too totalitarian, and even those who do not think about the global relationship between the state and the individual understand this. If the sphere of gambling has been destroyed today, what will prevent the state from destroying any other one tomorrow? Or declare sex a harmful addiction and allow it on coupons? Nobody wants these options.
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September 13, 2021, 02:46:17 PM |
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How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ? It's pretty normal for the poor and working class people to get more easily addicted to gambling. My country has way lower standard of living,compared to the UK,and casinos are everywhere. What do you mean by "minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling"? Do you suggest that the government should raise the minimum wages,so that more people could gamble? I disagree.Funding the gambling addictions of many people won't lead to anything good.This won't improve their lives for sure,but it might have the opposite effect. In many countries gambling is banned in most areas and permitted in certain cities only. Just like the USA,gambling is banned in most states,but it's allowed in Nevada and Georgia. Such are the regulations and matters concerning the legality of the existence of a gambling in certain places. No one escapes the supervision of the government, they have a path to take advantage of gambling, no matter whose money is taken, the most important thing is that all can pay taxes with a predetermined amount. In the UK and in the US each has regulations based on places that allow suitable and strategic places to gamble. Not a few that there they have understood the habits of the rich to gamble.
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September 13, 2021, 03:41:19 PM |
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This will not happen, not because it is a business or not a business. This approach is too totalitarian, and even those who do not think about the global relationship between the state and the individual understand this. If the sphere of gambling has been destroyed today, what will prevent the state from destroying any other one tomorrow? Or declare sex a harmful addiction and allow it on coupons? Nobody wants these options.
It may sound outlandish. But I am afraid that with every passing year such authoritarian regimes are becoming more and more frequent. Governments are increasingly tilting towards the left-wing and ultra-left side of the spectrum and these guys are perfectly OK with zero anonymity and zero personal liberties. KYC is being implemented everywhere, even for a $100 cryptocurrency purchase. The justification being given is that there are guys who are indulging in tax evasion and drug purchases, and so all the transactions need to be verified.
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September 13, 2021, 03:43:37 PM |
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Just to clarify what the article meant, this is not about having a solution to gambling problems. It's telling us that on deprived areas, people can afford to do gambling regardless of their financial status. Lots of gambling establishment on these areas and it's almost a common view there. An everyday part of the life of those people living there.
If gambling addiction is really an issue there, the government will surely do something about it as it's easy for them to remove those gambling outlets at those areas but the number of gambling establishments are still growing. I doubt that government is just for the tax and disregarding gambling problems on those areas if any.
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September 13, 2021, 04:12:44 PM |
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This will not happen, not because it is a business or not a business. This approach is too totalitarian, and even those who do not think about the global relationship between the state and the individual understand this. If the sphere of gambling has been destroyed today, what will prevent the state from destroying any other one tomorrow? Or declare sex a harmful addiction and allow it on coupons? Nobody wants these options.
It may sound outlandish. But I am afraid that with every passing year such authoritarian regimes are becoming more and more frequent. Governments are increasingly tilting towards the left-wing and ultra-left side of the spectrum and these guys are perfectly OK with zero anonymity and zero personal liberties. KYC is being implemented everywhere, even for a $100 cryptocurrency purchase. The justification being given is that there are guys who are indulging in tax evasion and drug purchases, and so all the transactions need to be verified. You're right. And especially clearly all these left-wing and totalitarian tendencies are visible in the situation with covid - many countries have introduced completely insane and unconstitutional decisions, and of course they all did it "for our good." But I am optimistic in this matter as I see that many people understand the essence of things and actively resist these tendencies.
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But I don't really support teen gambling as their main way of earning. Do not let this become the foundation of the economic axis and so on as the foundation. Because like most people addiction is not a good thing, not only in gambling, anything in excess will have bad consequences later in life. You know how gambling takes all possessions at one time. Therefore, gambling as entertainment is the right choice. Gambling can never be a form of earning. It can be treated as a form of entertainment or socializing, but never as a job or career. And you are right when you mention about addiction towards gambling. But the question is who should be held accountable for that. Gambling responsibly, in my opinion is the duty of the gambler. It is not right to blame the casino for that. For every gambler who gets addicted and play irresponsibly, there will be 20 others who will be doing that in a responsible manner. So the question is whether it is right to punish the other 20 people for the fault of one individual. And indeed the casinos are not to blame, they are just promoting the casino without being responsible for the addiction, because addiction is an individual thing which is only controlled by the individual gambler. regarding this there is no rule of responsibility in individual nature, unless there is something like loss caused by cheating, theft in the casino, then it will be the responsibility of the casino. With good reason that this is in the realm of gambling. Additionally, we can refer to the FAQ where the terms can give us insight into what the gambler's rights are and the casino's own rights.
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This is just business and the owner of this kind of business will surely expose people that want easy money, they will surely put those gambling outlets where there are people that want that, the people that are very gullible in making a risk without further seeing things why gambling exist and just thinking about the amount of money they can get when they bet on it,
Surely I don't think people with this kind of mindset would not really learn cause they need to change it or else they mind become addicted to it, or so they are already addicted to it, imagine people are always betting every day even with small amounts if they keep on betting every day it is profit for those outlet owners.
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Operators do find a way to make their business profitable, and if they find it profitable running a business in such areas, they would pursue it.
However, if the government sees it's concerning, they should not grant a license in the first place.
I think it's the job of the government here to evaluate an application before approving it, and they always look at the effect of the community, but if money works and corruption is happening, there's no sense of explaining to them as they will not see the potential risk of running a casino in deprived areas where people might easily get addicted to gambling.
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September 13, 2021, 09:41:34 PM |
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If it's possible, the only way to remove gambling addiction is to ban all of the gambling platforms Business didnt invent gambling, they might as well ban the sun from rising everyday too. This monumental egotistical idea of banning something to alter the world in your own imagined genius is best reserved for communist regimes and other deluded parts of the world where they believe force and the threat of force is the most powerful driver of a nation.
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September 14, 2021, 03:05:21 AM |
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And indeed the casinos are not to blame, they are just promoting the casino without being responsible for the addiction, because addiction is an individual thing which is only controlled by the individual gambler. regarding this there is no rule of responsibility in individual nature, unless there is something like loss caused by cheating, theft in the casino, then it will be the responsibility of the casino. With good reason that this is in the realm of gambling. Additionally, we can refer to the FAQ where the terms can give us insight into what the gambler's rights are and the casino's own rights.
If someone is opposing 100% legal business by giving stupid arguments, then be sure that he is doing that on the behalf of someone else who has an ulterior motive in doing so. The article in The Guardian gives an impression that they want to remove gambling joints from poor areas in order to prevent lower class people from losing their money. But in reality the intention is not that noble. The real intention is to close down businesses that generate good number of direct and indirect jobs, and thereby create unemployment and chaos. Gamblers will continue with their activity, either at casinos close to their home, or at a distance from where they are residing in.
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September 14, 2021, 06:01:22 AM |
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If it's possible, the only way to remove gambling addiction is to ban all of the gambling platforms Business didnt invent gambling, they might as well ban the sun from rising everyday too. This monumental egotistical idea of banning something to alter the world in your own imagined genius is best reserved for communist regimes and other deluded parts of the world where they believe force and the threat of force is the most powerful driver of a nation. It is not easy to remove or ban all of the gambling platforms in the country because many people have already been involved in gambling from a long time ago. It will not easy to accept the government's new rules but it could lead to a big demonstration from them, especially if the country is allowed to gamble in their country before. What the government can do is just educate their people and tell them that playing gambling can make their lives ruin and will not have a chance to get their money back. If the government consistently doing that thing, I guess their people sooner or later will realize and will reduce their time to playing gambling. It is important to wake them up and sees the reality of playing gambling can damage their life so they can change their habit and make a better life without playing gambling.
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According to the source : https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure. Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure. How should they go about controlling these things? Should the government try and make laws to ban such behavior and such state? I think people should have a minimum wage for sure when it comes to gambling, what do you think ? Sad Reality , that whom those who struggles in life is those who are getting deeper in Vices like gambling , Liquor , Smoking and even Illegal drugs and prostitution . while UK has a good stand is pushing responsible gambling yet this is what happening . hope this will settle in good manners.
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If someone is opposing 100% legal business by giving stupid arguments, then be sure that he is doing that on the behalf of someone else who has an ulterior motive in doing so. The article in The Guardian gives an impression that they want to remove gambling joints from poor areas in order to prevent lower class people from losing their money. But in reality the intention is not that noble. The real intention is to close down businesses that generate good number of direct and indirect jobs, and thereby create unemployment and chaos. Gamblers will continue with their activity, either at casinos close to their home, or at a distance from where they are residing in.
Gamblers will still visit them even though the casino is quite far away. A gambler would visit him and take big bets. With online casinos they don't have to travel far, and offline casinos will be short of income. The workers do not get income, because their place is deserted which in the end unemployment actually exacerbates the problem.
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September 14, 2021, 09:53:34 PM |
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If someone is opposing 100% legal business by giving stupid arguments, then be sure that he is doing that on the behalf of someone else who has an ulterior motive in doing so. The article in The Guardian gives an impression that they want to remove gambling joints from poor areas in order to prevent lower class people from losing their money. But in reality the intention is not that noble. The real intention is to close down businesses that generate good number of direct and indirect jobs, and thereby create unemployment and chaos. Gamblers will continue with their activity, either at casinos close to their home, or at a distance from where they are residing in.
Gamblers will still visit them even though the casino is quite far away. A gambler would visit him and take big bets. With online casinos they don't have to travel far, and offline casinos will be short of income. The workers do not get income, because their place is deserted which in the end unemployment actually exacerbates the problem. Comparing out online and offline casinos then i can say that they are still having some good share when it comes to revenue since there are still people who do gamble out on physical places because people do much prefer on having real experience rather than playing online.So its a personal kind of preference since not all would be having the same interest. Speaking off deprived areas on where those gambling places been placed on then its bit understandable that most of poor people residing will really be likely to make gambling as an option to make some income which means losing is inevitable and thats a sure income to the casino owners.
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September 14, 2021, 09:55:21 PM |
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If someone is opposing 100% legal business by giving stupid arguments, then be sure that he is doing that on the behalf of someone else who has an ulterior motive in doing so. The article in The Guardian gives an impression that they want to remove gambling joints from poor areas in order to prevent lower class people from losing their money. But in reality the intention is not that noble. The real intention is to close down businesses that generate good number of direct and indirect jobs, and thereby create unemployment and chaos. Gamblers will continue with their activity, either at casinos close to their home, or at a distance from where they are residing in.
Gamblers will still visit them even though the casino is quite far away. A gambler would visit him and take big bets. With online casinos they don't have to travel far, and offline casinos will be short of income. The workers do not get income, because their place is deserted which in the end unemployment actually exacerbates the problem. Comparing out online and offline casinos then i can say that they are still having some good share when it comes to revenue since there are still people who do gamble out on physical places because people do much prefer on having real experience rather than playing online.So its a personal kind of preference since not all would be having the same interest. Speaking off deprived areas on where those gambling places been placed on then its bit understandable that most of poor people residing will really be likely to make gambling as an option to make some income which means losing is inevitable and thats a sure income to the casino owners. the demographics of online casinos are probably quite different as well since they are not limited by place and can access people in different economic situations there's that, the house always wins, regardless of medium
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September 15, 2021, 03:34:56 AM |
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Speaking off deprived areas on where those gambling places been placed on then its bit understandable that most of poor people residing will really be likely to make gambling as an option to make some income which means losing is inevitable and thats a sure income to the casino owners.
I just want to say this - if someone argues that the casinos need to be closed down, then they should provide alternate employment and compensation to all those who are going to lose their job. Very few businesses would be willing to operate in these areas and The Guardian wants to close down the few that are willing. And regarding casino owners, what is wrong if they make profits from a legitimate business? No one will start a business if they are not allowed to make profits. That argument doesn't make any sense.
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September 15, 2021, 05:26:24 AM |
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The most deprived areas of UK are actually having more number of gambling outlets, which is a matter of concern for sure.
Apparently according to the source people are targeting the most deprived and economically weak areas which is sad. The companies are trying to scam people away and this is not working well for the people around since they might get addicted for sure.
Same here in our country we have the majority of gambling outlets like Lottery in the most deprived sectors of our society, it's not really a source of concern because those hitting the jackpot are poor people and because of this it changes their life and their neighborhood as well, our government who runs these lottery outlets really targetted the poor people because they are likely to bet the ticket is not really that costly it only cost $0.50, and besides revenues generated from these outlets since it's government-run are allocated to the health sector.
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September 15, 2021, 10:21:31 AM |
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Speaking off deprived areas on where those gambling places been placed on then its bit understandable that most of poor people residing will really be likely to make gambling as an option to make some income which means losing is inevitable and thats a sure income to the casino owners.
I just want to say this - if someone argues that the casinos need to be closed down, then they should provide alternate employment and compensation to all those who are going to lose their job. Very few businesses would be willing to operate in these areas and The Guardian wants to close down the few that are willing. And regarding casino owners, what is wrong if they make profits from a legitimate business? No one will start a business if they are not allowed to make profits. That argument doesn't make any sense. Not only that mate but the government itself needs to find alternative to where might get additional income generating market as we knew that Gambling businesses is one of the biggest tax paying in the world. they even generate 20% of the GDP from gambling operator itself not counting the illegal activities as well. But regulation will do better i guess and proper implementation of laws regarding those regulations.
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