Have you notice how corporations took over the internet ?

[famososMuertos]

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The free Internet ... before the 21st century, getting all kinds of software without a license was the trend and forums of this type were the novelty in communication.

bitcoin right now is no different in terms of how they have been distributed, most of BTC is in control by a few.

The participation is done, it only remains to fight for the satoshi and in the event of large investments opt for the BTC.

But given the configuration and eventual architecture of bitcoin, still it could be distributed among a few million people part of the participation in the bitcoin, that such participation generates wealth is another story, but people remain lethargic prefer to invest $ 700- $ 1000 in a cell phone.

Society does not know how to organize itself into a collective that generates power of social and economic thought, and boy, bitcoin is/was and perhaps is still a great "tool".

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[V-t.Ester]

Yes, advertisements are everywhere in Internet today especially at YouTube. You can hardly find film on line without built-in X-bet ad.
Moreover, I’ve read news that corporations want to launch ads even at the night sky: https://www.albawaba.com/business/spacex-create-billboard-shows-ads-sky-1442260 https://futurism.com/startrocket-giant-ads-night-sky-cubesats . So probably soon we won’t see stars in the night sky any more, only ads. Corporations took over the internet, over our everyday life (all these ads on shops, supermarkets, billboards, cars, etc) and even over the sky.
Sometimes even in mined BTC blocks were found hidden massages: https://decrypt.co/55642/the-5-best-secret-messages-hidden-on-the-bitcoin-blockchain . Once they probably will find ads there.

[eaLiTy]

So probably soon we won’t see stars in the night sky any more, only ads. Corporations took over the internet, over our everyday life (all these ads on shops, supermarkets, billboards, cars, etc) and even over the sky.

This is a bit overblown out of proportion i would say. I am not sure how they are going to do that, even if they do it will be a small portion and for that advertisement to shine brighter how much energy is needed, i bet a lot of energy would required to shine something from outer space, so it is not going to be a viable advertisement area from a logical stand point.

Sometimes even in mined BTC blocks were found hidden massages: https://decrypt.co/55642/the-5-best-secret-messages-hidden-on-the-bitcoin-blockchain . Once they probably will find ads there.

This one, it is possible but who cares, no one is going to read those hidden messages and no one is going to spend money for those  .

[AndySt]

Yes, advertisements are everywhere in Internet today especially at YouTube. You can hardly find film on line without built-in X-bet ad.
Moreover, I’ve read news that corporations want to launch ads even at the night sky: https://www.albawaba.com/business/spacex-create-billboard-shows-ads-sky-1442260 https://futurism.com/startrocket-giant-ads-night-sky-cubesats . So probably soon we won’t see stars in the night sky any more, only ads. Corporations took over the internet, over our everyday life (all these ads on shops, supermarkets, billboards, cars, etc) and even over the sky.
Sometimes even in mined BTC blocks were found hidden massages: https://decrypt.co/55642/the-5-best-secret-messages-hidden-on-the-bitcoin-blockchain . Once they probably will find ads there.

It's just that the Internet has broken into the daily life of every person from a little accessible and not understandable curiosity for everyone and has imperceptibly turned into the basis of the life of the absolute majority of people, entertainment and a place of work. It would be foolish to expect that this will escape the attention of business, and we ourselves know perfectly well that the most effective and most influential tool for doing business in modern conditions are corporations. Also, no business can do without advertising. We can only try to limit their influence so that their work is also for the benefit of the ordinary person and society, and not just for profit, but it will not be possible to simply do without them.

[jaysabi]

Have you notice how corporations took over the internet ?

I am a web dev and designer from 2008 ...i remember the internet being more human / person to person even chatting was fun back in '00 ...now the internet ...it's like a giant platform to do propaganda / advertise / spam and  for narcissists to showoff  on social networks like insta and fbook ...in my opinion we need to do something to get the vibe and freedom back ... else small businesses will have 0 chance against corporations and people will be continue to be programmed in to thinking the internet should be like it is now.

Not good for the economy not good for people.


It's similar to bitcoin when the movement started ... it was fun ,now di.ks with suits (fund managers ) started to hoard it...sure it is 50k now ,but you can't use it for the reason it was created... to be a currency...

Even youtube lost it's charm with does ads...

The corporations you're railing against built the internet into what it is today, and the reason they've been successful is because they're giving people something they want.  You want to change it?  Don't use any of the services you named.  That's literally the only thing you can do.  But your absence will go entirely unnoticed and it won't stop other people from using those services.  The internet isn't "supposed" to be like anything.  It just is what it is.

[crypt0m4nia]

It's no surprise, to be honest. I mean the internet is for everyone, and the internet has made our lives easier and more connected. No wonder companies are taking advantage of it.

[Silberman]

Yes, advertisements are everywhere in Internet today especially at YouTube. You can hardly find film on line without built-in X-bet ad.
Moreover, I’ve read news that corporations want to launch ads even at the night sky: https://www.albawaba.com/business/spacex-create-billboard-shows-ads-sky-1442260 https://futurism.com/startrocket-giant-ads-night-sky-cubesats . So probably soon we won’t see stars in the night sky any more, only ads. Corporations took over the internet, over our everyday life (all these ads on shops, supermarkets, billboards, cars, etc) and even over the sky.
Sometimes even in mined BTC blocks were found hidden massages: https://decrypt.co/55642/the-5-best-secret-messages-hidden-on-the-bitcoin-blockchain . Once they probably will find ads there.

It's just that the Internet has broken into the daily life of every person from a little accessible and not understandable curiosity for everyone and has imperceptibly turned into the basis of the life of the absolute majority of people, entertainment and a place of work. It would be foolish to expect that this will escape the attention of business, and we ourselves know perfectly well that the most effective and most influential tool for doing business in modern conditions are corporations. Also, no business can do without advertising. We can only try to limit their influence so that their work is also for the benefit of the ordinary person and society, and not just for profit, but it will not be possible to simply do without them.

This, at the beginning the Internet was thought to be a fad, something that people would be interested for a time and then it would disappear, in fact if you take the time to look at articles from the early 90’s you will see that kind of attitude from people that thought themselves experts on the topic, and as such at that time the Internet was more free even if it took forever to download anything, but once most people began to use it then corporations found a new way to advertise themselves and that is what they have been doing ever since.

[dondonk]

Not surprised , in the past only a few people could access the internet . so that the internet ecosystem remains peaceful and pleasant. now everyone understands and accesses the internet. Now the internet is almost more chaotic than the real world.

[Gozie51]

Now the internet is almost more chaotic than the real world.

The internet is not chaotic but progressive. It has accomodated series of opportunities for the people for information has broken the large number of community. The internet has been very helpful to the world not only corporation but also government. The government that tries to fight the internet also benefit from it because of its large coverage.

[jaysabi]

Not surprised , in the past only a few people could access the internet . so that the internet ecosystem remains peaceful and pleasant. now everyone understands and accesses the internet. Now the internet is almost more chaotic than the real world.

The "democratization" of communication was supposed to be a great thing for humanity, but giving everyone a voice just conditioned everyone to think that their opinion was the most important and that if things weren't happening the way they wanted then the government or the system or the world was broken.  The internet created echo chambers that reinforced the notion that anyone who didn't agree with you was your enemy who had to be defeated.
 In reality, the internet ushered in this era of extremism and vitriol we see in politics now, and it's not fixable.  The internet and social media has ruined public discourse forever and turned everyone into intolerant trolls.

[dezoel]

There is so much truth and what you have said, yes bad things were totally different than how it is now. Sometimes when I remember how I used to feel when I discovered Bitcoin in 2014 and how the community looked like then,  I kind of like always wish that those years will come back and things will return to being as it was then. This time around things have really changed and some of them are just so weird, the Internet has become something else.

Social media are now very annoying, just like you said Instagram,  Facebook, and even Twitter. Then Facebook used to be so fun and I can’t stay a day without going there, but now it's really annoying with the kind of posts and how people has really ruined it, plus adverts that are very annoying, now I hardly even go there any longer, I can even stay a whole month without even looking at it.

[GeorgeJohn]

That's the way things have gone, remember that Internet is for everyone to use so of course companies are going to use it so they can make more money, remember that where there's more people, you can be sure that these companies are also in that place too.

From my perspective, internet is like a way people get easier solution to problems, many companies used it for easier problem solver or for advertisement of product, so it's obvious today that internet is used only to make money but also security purposes and other contributions that elevate the development of mankind as well, so it's used for all ramifications of life.

[Silberman]

Not surprised , in the past only a few people could access the internet . so that the internet ecosystem remains peaceful and pleasant. now everyone understands and accesses the internet. Now the internet is almost more chaotic than the real world.

The "democratization" of communication was supposed to be a great thing for humanity, but giving everyone a voice just conditioned everyone to think that their opinion was the most important and that if things weren't happening the way they wanted then the government or the system or the world was broken.  The internet created echo chambers that reinforced the notion that anyone who didn't agree with you was your enemy who had to be defeated.
 In reality, the internet ushered in this era of extremism and vitriol we see in politics now, and it's not fixable.  The internet and social media has ruined public discourse forever and turned everyone into intolerant trolls.

I agree, before the Internet people were exposed to all kinds of points of view and while they could find some people with similar thoughts there was enough diversity to force people to interact and consider the ideas of others, but now the Internet has created echo chambers in which if someone says something that you do not like then you can block them and never hear of them ever again, this means that many people only interact with other people that think like them and reinforce their thoughts, so even if that was not the intention at all the Internet has created a world in which anyone that does not think and has the same values as you is the enemy.

[Princejebs]

That shows that in deed, the future is internet because almost everyone now live with it. The days were we used to be lonely and depressed without having a partner but have changed already, I know quite people who will stay indoor in their home without coming outside if they have access to free Internet connection and good electricity.

I can still close and opens my eyes during days when bitcoin was trading below. $4k dollars, that was a big opportunity back then bough who knows it Wil be like this. 

[Sithara007]

That the Internet used to be far more decentralized can't be denied tho.

No one would deny that. There used to be a time when Google, Twitter and Facebook didn't had the monopoly in the internet. But things started to change in a big way after Google acquired YouTube in 2006. They had tons of cash, and this helped them to go on a shopping spree and purchase whatever they want. And once they attained the monopoly, these corporations started getting involved in politics. The best example is Twitter flagging, and then banning Trump during his presidential campaign. Google has also behaved in a very biased manner recently. 

[Silberman]

That the Internet used to be far more decentralized can't be denied tho.

No one would deny that. There used to be a time when Google, Twitter and Facebook didn't had the monopoly in the internet. But things started to change in a big way after Google acquired YouTube in 2006. They had tons of cash, and this helped them to go on a shopping spree and purchase whatever they want. And once they attained the monopoly, these corporations started getting involved in politics. The best example is Twitter flagging, and then banning Trump during his presidential campaign. Google has also behaved in a very biased manner recently. 

It is impossible to deny at this point that those companies are monopolies and we have many laws that can deal with them and even force the owners to split apart the company in many others that are smaller, and we need to wonder why this doesn't happen? And the answer to that is very simple the governments do not want to do it, they love those companies because they receive all of that data and they can spy on their citizens almost every single hour of every single day, so both parties get what they want out of that deal while the population is the one that suffers.

[GubiMixa1292]

I think that makes sense, my friend, because the internet is getting more sophisticated and Bitcoin was never meant for smaller people either. Bitcoin is literally for everyone, so is the internet. The goal of the internet is that because the internet is a place for everyone there are really no boundaries here, the work of companies and advertisers everywhere is powerful and that is out of scope here. we also can not cast spells nor castrate because this is the right of everyone to use us including all companies, organizations or groups of gatherings.

[EdenHazard]

That the Internet used to be far more decentralized can't be denied tho.

No one would deny that. There used to be a time when Google, Twitter and Facebook didn't had the monopoly in the internet. But things started to change in a big way after Google acquired YouTube in 2006. They had tons of cash, and this helped them to go on a shopping spree and purchase whatever they want. And once they attained the monopoly, these corporations started getting involved in politics. The best example is Twitter flagging, and then banning Trump during his presidential campaign. Google has also behaved in a very biased manner recently. 

Well it is what it is , that was the reality ...
those corporate bastards has very angelic vision at the first time they came in but then become greedy to own and acquire everything around the internet.. the goals is always to have a power to influence... and once they have got achieved what they want , nobody can touch them like what the world did to facebook and google in freely stealing our privacy...

not even law can fight against this giant corporate.

[goldkingcoiner]

I wouldn't say anyone or any corporation "took over" the internet. I think the internet is just the tool of natural evolution of how we exchange information as a evolving species. So basically anyone and everyone "took over" the internet gradually over a period of time. Im sure at some point the internet will become redundant and nobody will even remember it anymore. But taking over? Not even China can take over their own internet. People will find ways to break free.

[verita1]

I understand the nostalgic opinions but it is difficult to turn back time. From what OP says it's like a snowball that grows. What we can do is occupy those spaces and create our communities.
On the other hand, bitcoin could be taken as a means of payment by more people with the developments proposed by the lightning network.

I do not know if it is already available to send tip on twitter through the lightning network under the developer Jack Mallers founder of Strike. Because that's good news for bitcoin and opportunities for more people to join us.