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September 21, 2021, 04:37:30 AM
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Dice can be profitable if you leave it while you are in +.  It is always hard for gamblers to leave the winning session, even harder to leave the table while you are losing bankroll. Btw, there is no need for instructor simple and easiest strategies to test dice. There is no way to beat the house edge and you will end up losing all one day.
Both of the situation is hard to leave because as you win, you're thinking that you're too lucky to leave. And when you lose, you're too lost to leave and you just want to recover no matter how much you've lost. There's no need for any instructor, maybe he's just needing a guide, where to start, how much to start as a bankroll when he started playing dice. With all that have been said, he can play it alone and is he willing to spend some time and money just for an instructor?
and that is the attitude and behavior of a Non Deserving gambler .. I mean this is for the gambler that has no discipline at all mate because if you are a type of gambler that has vision and good attitude you know when to stop and stand from the table and you also Know when to stay.
it is not because we are winning meaning this is endless and same as our losing this means it is permanent.
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September 21, 2021, 11:12:29 AM
Last edit: September 21, 2021, 11:42:45 AM by Betwrong
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If you want to check it on practice, try this: make a thousand rolls strictly following some sophisticated strategy, and then make a thousand completely random rolls after that, and compare the results. Only one condition: your bankroll must be large enough for making those rolls in both cases.
I don't think we need large bankroll for making random rolls because if you're rolling in random then you never need to double your bets which means you may not need big bankroll. ~

Well, it's true that for random rolls you will probably need a smaller bankroll than for martingale, but we are talking about thousand rolls here, and even if your bet size is $0.01 you still need a $10 bankroll for the experiment, right? Also by "random rolls " I meant random bet size too. So, if you don't want your experiment ruined by zero bankroll after 980 rolls, you better be prepared.

Actually, if your bankroll happened to be zero before the experiment ended, you could just deposit more and continue, but then, although valid, the experiment wouldn't be looking so pretty, aesthetically wise. Smiley

~ Still, I agree that results from strategy based rolls and random rolls may not show big differences. Because, randomness of gambling may or may not work in favor of us. Even it will work in favor of us, we cannot expect that to be happening all the days and moreover, due to the presence of house-edge, gamblers get lesser chances than houses to be favorable in the environment of randomness.

As I'm always saying, don't overestimate the impact of house-edge on your performance. It's not that big as people might think.

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September 21, 2021, 11:34:19 AM
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As I'm always saying, don't overestimate the impact of house-edge on your performance. It's not that big as people might think.

Yeap, the house edge is always just slightly higher than the player's, but that's enough for them to make a lot of money.
You ask me: Why?
Because even though it's a small advantage, most users continue to play while they're winning, and generally raise the stakes with money that's already in the house, thus increasing their chances of returning everything they've won.
Few are in the habit of stopping when they've won enough or restarting bets at a smaller amount.
The house benefits far more from the players' addiction than from the luck advantage.

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September 21, 2021, 11:46:35 AM
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Dice can be profitable if you leave it while you are in +.  It is always hard for gamblers to leave the winning session, even harder to leave the table while you are losing bankroll. Btw, there is no need for instructor simple and easiest strategies to test dice. There is no way to beat the house edge and you will end up losing all one day.
Both of the situation is hard to leave because as you win, you're thinking that you're too lucky to leave. And when you lose, you're too lost to leave and you just want to recover no matter how much you've lost. There's no need for any instructor, maybe he's just needing a guide, where to start, how much to start as a bankroll when he started playing dice. With all that have been said, he can play it alone and is he willing to spend some time and money just for an instructor?

In my case I have a hard time leaving when winning than losing, it's because of my mindset of striking while the iron is hot, I've done it twice where I won a big amount I only quit because I was so tired it was my lucky days, but it's hard to repeat that, you'll get lucky if you are lucky, you don't have to force it.
It is the typical mindset of gamblers when we're winning. We don't want to leave because we think that we still got much luck left and we're about to waste it if we quit while we're on a winning streak.
The fact that we're not stopping because we're still lucky, is also bringing us the urge that we have to keep on going despite having some losses because we are confident that we'll still win in the end.

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September 21, 2021, 07:59:24 PM
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Dice can be profitable if you leave it while you are in +.  It is always hard for gamblers to leave the winning session, even harder to leave the table while you are losing bankroll. Btw, there is no need for instructor simple and easiest strategies to test dice. There is no way to beat the house edge and you will end up losing all one day.
Both of the situation is hard to leave because as you win, you're thinking that you're too lucky to leave. And when you lose, you're too lost to leave and you just want to recover no matter how much you've lost. There's no need for any instructor, maybe he's just needing a guide, where to start, how much to start as a bankroll when he started playing dice. With all that have been said, he can play it alone and is he willing to spend some time and money just for an instructor?

In my case I have a hard time leaving when winning than losing, it's because of my mindset of striking while the iron is hot, I've done it twice where I won a big amount I only quit because I was so tired it was my lucky days, but it's hard to repeat that, you'll get lucky if you are lucky, you don't have to force it.
It is the typical mindset of gamblers when we're winning. We don't want to leave because we think that we still got much luck left and we're about to waste it if we quit while we're on a winning streak.
The fact that we're not stopping because we're still lucky, is also bringing us the urge that we have to keep on going despite having some losses because we are confident that we'll still win in the end.
Primary reasons that do commonly put up into our minds on these kind of times on where we do believe that we might even to win up more if we do intent to play.
Dice is the most instantaneous type of game which you can really see results where people do really get interested on playing this but somehow people do lost up that much because
they are really that hopeful that they could really take up some advantage or can beat out the game or can beat up the house.

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September 21, 2021, 08:52:32 PM
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It is the typical mindset of gamblers when we're winning. We don't want to leave because we think that we still got much luck left and we're about to waste it if we quit while we're on a winning streak.
The fact that we're not stopping because we're still lucky, is also bringing us the urge that we have to keep on going despite having some losses because we are confident that we'll still win in the end.
Primary reasons that do commonly put up into our minds on these kind of times on where we do believe that we might even to win up more if we do intent to play.
Dice is the most instantaneous type of game which you can really see results where people do really get interested on playing this but somehow people do lost up that much because
they are really that hopeful that they could really take up some advantage or can beat out the game or can beat up the house.
That's true, we think that we can win more and that's why there's no way for us to be stopped. Well at least for me, I know when to stop but I can't also avoid that feeling when I'm on a winning streak. It's all about how to maintain myself and control still while being in that emotion.
Although many understand that we can't beat the house but at least we know that we're lucky and that's why we're continuing.

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September 22, 2021, 06:58:31 AM
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It is the typical mindset of gamblers when we're winning. We don't want to leave because we think that we still got much luck left and we're about to waste it if we quit while we're on a winning streak.
The fact that we're not stopping because we're still lucky, is also bringing us the urge that we have to keep on going despite having some losses because we are confident that we'll still win in the end.
Primary reasons that do commonly put up into our minds on these kind of times on where we do believe that we might even to win up more if we do intent to play.
Dice is the most instantaneous type of game which you can really see results where people do really get interested on playing this but somehow people do lost up that much because
they are really that hopeful that they could really take up some advantage or can beat out the game or can beat up the house.
That's true, we think that we can win more and that's why there's no way for us to be stopped. Well at least for me, I know when to stop but I can't also avoid that feeling when I'm on a winning streak. It's all about how to maintain myself and control still while being in that emotion.
Although many understand that we can't beat the house but at least we know that we're lucky and that's why we're continuing.
When we can winning streak, that means our luck is on our side but we must remember that the next rolls will not always be ours.
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We have a moment when we are winning streak and still continue playing gambling, but then we lose all of the win money in just a second.
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September 22, 2021, 07:05:49 AM
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Both of the situation is hard to leave because as you win, you're thinking that you're too lucky to leave. And when you lose, you're too lost to leave and you just want to recover no matter how much you've lost.
You are right, if a punters is wining, he will feel like to play more, he will play more, the more he continues to play, the losses will begin, before he will realise, he would have lost all the whole money. The best is to just win one or few and leave.

There's no need for any instructor, maybe he's just needing a guide, where to start, how much to start as a bankroll when he started playing dice. With all that have been said, he can play it alone and is he willing to spend some time and money just for an instructor?
Having instructor does not guarantee winning, I am just surprised to see that some people can go for an instructor, what is the tendency that having an instructor will not still lead to losses while gambling? When I started to gamble many years back, I started myself, but the more my experience increased.

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September 22, 2021, 10:09:45 AM
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Both of the situation is hard to leave because as you win, you're thinking that you're too lucky to leave. And when you lose, you're too lost to leave and you just want to recover no matter how much you've lost.
You are right, if a punters is wining, he will feel like to play more, he will play more, the more he continues to play, the losses will begin, before he will realise, he would have lost all the whole money. The best is to just win one or few and leave.
But that's hard to for someone who's been enjoying and sitting while looking at the potential profit that he can make after a few wins. This is the usual case that one or two wins aren't enough to stop.

There's no need for any instructor, maybe he's just needing a guide, where to start, how much to start as a bankroll when he started playing dice. With all that have been said, he can play it alone and is he willing to spend some time and money just for an instructor?
Having instructor does not guarantee winning, I am just surprised to see that some people can go for an instructor, what is the tendency that having an instructor will not still lead to losses while gambling? When I started to gamble many years back, I started myself, but the more my experience increased.
It's only one that I've seen and said that there's a need for such instructor but the majority of us knew that there's no need for such.

That's true, we think that we can win more and that's why there's no way for us to be stopped. Well at least for me, I know when to stop but I can't also avoid that feeling when I'm on a winning streak. It's all about how to maintain myself and control still while being in that emotion.
Although many understand that we can't beat the house but at least we know that we're lucky and that's why we're continuing.
When we can winning streak, that means our luck is on our side but we must remember that the next rolls will not always be ours.
From that moment, we should stop as soon as possible before everything that we got from gambling is gone and we can not enjoy the win money.
We have a moment when we are winning streak and still continue playing gambling, but then we lose all of the win money in just a second.
We have the lessons, so we should always control while we still have the win money from the previous round and stop gambling.
That's even harder when you're on a winning streak that's unlikely to make you stop and you'll feel that luck is with you and that's why you're hard to stop.

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September 22, 2021, 10:28:51 AM
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As I'm always saying, don't overestimate the impact of house-edge on your performance. It's not that big as people might think.

Yeap, the house edge is always just slightly higher than the player's, but that's enough for them to make a lot of money.
You ask me: Why?
Because even though it's a small advantage, most users continue to play while they're winning, and generally raise the stakes with money that's already in the house, thus increasing their chances of returning everything they've won.
Few are in the habit of stopping when they've won enough or restarting bets at a smaller amount.
The house benefits far more from the players' addiction than from the luck advantage.

Actually the house doesn't care whether a particular player is winning or losing. It's a common mistake to think that casinos want that there were more addicted gamblers. They surely don't want that because the higher the number of people addicted to gambling, the higher the probability of prohibitive laws regarding gambling to emerge. What casinos want is a lot of people playing on their platform. Notice: playing, not losing. They make money on the house edge, not on what some unfortunate gamblers are losing.

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I may relatively go with this school of thought, but again, most gambling operators are all after the profit-making, and once the number of players increases that will also increase their revenues, getting addicted will cause more money for the casino house.

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How can you exactly become so good at throwing dice or playing dice? Isn't that a chance based game? Meaning that no matter how you throw away your dice, once it goes out of your hand, it's going to be out of your control.

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September 22, 2021, 05:40:09 PM
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As I'm always saying, don't overestimate the impact of house-edge on your performance. It's not that big as people might think.

Yeap, the house edge is always just slightly higher than the player's, but that's enough for them to make a lot of money.
You ask me: Why?
Because even though it's a small advantage, most users continue to play while they're winning, and generally raise the stakes with money that's already in the house, thus increasing their chances of returning everything they've won.
Few are in the habit of stopping when they've won enough or restarting bets at a smaller amount.
The house benefits far more from the players' addiction than from the luck advantage.

Actually the house doesn't care whether a particular player is winning or losing. It's a common mistake to think that casinos want that there were more addicted gamblers. They surely don't want that because the higher the number of people addicted to gambling, the higher the probability of prohibitive laws regarding gambling to emerge. What casinos want is a lot of people playing on their platform. Notice: playing, not losing. They make money on the house edge, not on what some unfortunate gamblers are losing.
Following that concept which is true, the more gamblers to play means the more house edge for the house, they are more focus with that, the very reason we keep seeing lots of advertisement and lots of benefits that being offered when you visit and play inside any gambling platform, site owners wanted you to enjoy and let you keep coming back and the possibilities to refer someone to use also the services.

How can you exactly become so good at throwing dice or playing dice? Isn't that a chance based game? Meaning that no matter how you throw away your dice, once it goes out of your hand, it's going to be out of your control.
That's for real, only those who are good at managing their emotions and good with bankroll management are capable of winning decent amount, after you roll there's nothing you can do but to wait if luck will help you to win your bet.

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September 22, 2021, 06:40:08 PM
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How can you exactly become so good at throwing dice or playing dice? Isn't that a chance based game? Meaning that no matter how you throw away your dice, once it goes out of your hand, it's going to be out of your control.

Some people use certain tricks when rolling dice in real life but that's called cheating, it not "getting better" at throwing dice.

Dice is/should be about your luck. It is not a skill game, as you also said.

How can you exactly become so good at throwing dice or playing dice? Isn't that a chance based game? Meaning that no matter how you throw away your dice, once it goes out of your hand, it's going to be out of your control.
That's for real, only those who are good at managing their emotions and good with bankroll management are capable of winning decent amount, after you roll there's nothing you can do but to wait if luck will help you to win your bet.

Irrelevant... You can't beat the casino in the long run no matter what bankroll management strategy when playing dice. Using strategies especially makes you lose faster. Your only chance is playing less (preferably once) and run away with the winnings.

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September 22, 2021, 09:04:45 PM
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How can you exactly become so good at throwing dice or playing dice? Isn't that a chance based game? Meaning that no matter how you throw away your dice
Yes, it is a luck/chance based game and you're not likely to beat the house. You can win for sometimes but you'll not entirely beat the system and the house itself.

once it goes out of your hand, it's going to be out of your control.
And this is where the house wins when a dice player starts to lose his control towards the game. He becomes emotional and that leads to keep rolling the dice nonstop until the bankroll remains zero in balance.

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Yes, it doesn't make sense to pay a mentor to teach him something not profitable on long run. I would say it's actually a dangerous possibility, because there are lots of scammers on the internet claiming to be professional dice gamblers who can teach secret strategies to beat the house, while others, even though showing their "secrets" for free are also equally dangerous, because they lead people to lose tons of money assuring they can win through the methods displayed at their youtube videos, aiming the referral comissions they can earn this way.
It is better to avoid that thing than to get scammed by people we do not know because they only offer to teach us, but after we pay some money, they just run away. It is better to use that money to play dice games with small bets and enjoy it because someday, we can win some money without a mentor. A mentor is not too necessary in a dice game and we need to realize that we can learn by ourselves because a dice game is not a type of gambling game that needs the skill to win. Only your luck can help you to win.
A mentor would be only useful to teach the gambler some basic strategies and hints which could help him avoid losing too much money in dice and consequently going into debt. But this mentor must be someone trustful and educated about gambling games, preferentially someone the newbie gambler knows personally and has a relationship already (a friend or relative, for an example).
I like this idea, because it can be harsh to start gambling without any clue about what to do, but unfortunatelly not everyone has the opportunity to learn with someone more experienced, so they have to learn by themselves.

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September 22, 2021, 10:37:24 PM
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It is the typical mindset of gamblers when we're winning. We don't want to leave because we think that we still got much luck left and we're about to waste it if we quit while we're on a winning streak.
The fact that we're not stopping because we're still lucky, is also bringing us the urge that we have to keep on going despite having some losses because we are confident that we'll still win in the end.
Primary reasons that do commonly put up into our minds on these kind of times on where we do believe that we might even to win up more if we do intent to play.
Dice is the most instantaneous type of game which you can really see results where people do really get interested on playing this but somehow people do lost up that much because
they are really that hopeful that they could really take up some advantage or can beat out the game or can beat up the house.
That's true, we think that we can win more and that's why there's no way for us to be stopped. Well at least for me, I know when to stop but I can't also avoid that feeling when I'm on a winning streak. It's all about how to maintain myself and control still while being in that emotion.
Although many understand that we can't beat the house but at least we know that we're lucky and that's why we're continuing.
When we can winning streak, that means our luck is on our side but we must remember that the next rolls will not always be ours.
From that moment, we should stop as soon as possible before everything that we got from gambling is gone and we can not enjoy the win money.
We have a moment when we are winning streak and still continue playing gambling, but then we lose all of the win money in just a second.
We have the lessons, so we should always control while we still have the win money from the previous round and stop gambling.
Wrong mindset to have specially for noobs is that they do really believe on that they could really make out some advantage whenever they do set out some particular strategies on where they do believe that they could really make out money or profits guaranteed without even thinking on what are the things or on how the reality words because this is something that you cant really able to make out some advantage.
Dice game is just for fund and dont tend and assume that you could really take off some advantage specially that you are dealing or against with the house.

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September 23, 2021, 02:34:51 AM
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It is the typical mindset of gamblers when we're winning. We don't want to leave because we think that we still got much luck left and we're about to waste it if we quit while we're on a winning streak.
The fact that we're not stopping because we're still lucky, is also bringing us the urge that we have to keep on going despite having some losses because we are confident that we'll still win in the end.
Primary reasons that do commonly put up into our minds on these kind of times on where we do believe that we might even to win up more if we do intent to play.
Dice is the most instantaneous type of game which you can really see results where people do really get interested on playing this but somehow people do lost up that much because
they are really that hopeful that they could really take up some advantage or can beat out the game or can beat up the house.
That's true, we think that we can win more and that's why there's no way for us to be stopped. Well at least for me, I know when to stop but I can't also avoid that feeling when I'm on a winning streak. It's all about how to maintain myself and control still while being in that emotion.
Although many understand that we can't beat the house but at least we know that we're lucky and that's why we're continuing.
When we can winning streak, that means our luck is on our side but we must remember that the next rolls will not always be ours.
From that moment, we should stop as soon as possible before everything that we got from gambling is gone and we can not enjoy the win money.
We have a moment when we are winning streak and still continue playing gambling, but then we lose all of the win money in just a second.
We have the lessons, so we should always control while we still have the win money from the previous round and stop gambling.
Wrong mindset to have specially for noobs is that they do really believe on that they could really make out some advantage whenever they do set out some particular strategies on where they do believe that they could really make out money or profits guaranteed without even thinking on what are the things or on how the reality words because this is something that you cant really able to make out some advantage.
Dice game is just for fund and dont tend and assume that you could really take off some advantage specially that you are dealing or against with the house.
They should change their belief that they can benefit from the strategies as the casino itself will not let them win many times.
Those noobs can really win on the games because of their luck, especially on the gambling game based on luck.
If they realize that, they will try harder to play on dice because dice is a gambling game that needs luck.
When you play dice games, just try to enjoy and have fun, and do not think that you can win against the house because that will be difficult.

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September 23, 2021, 10:02:43 AM
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Following that concept which is true, the more gamblers to play means the more house edge for the house, they are more focus with that, the very reason we keep seeing lots of advertisement and lots of benefits that being offered when you visit and play inside any gambling platform, site owners wanted you to enjoy and let you keep coming back and the possibilities to refer someone to use also the services.


That's right. If all were losing all the time, and only this way gambling sites could be making profits, gambling would cease existing long time ago.

How can you exactly become so good at throwing dice or playing dice? Isn't that a chance based game? Meaning that no matter how you throw away your dice, once it goes out of your hand, it's going to be out of your control.
That's for real, only those who are good at managing their emotions and good with bankroll management are capable of winning decent amount, after you roll there's nothing you can do but to wait if luck will help you to win your bet.

Not only them. It's a game of chance, after all, and even if you are making a stupid move, like you bet all you have with 0.5% win chance(which happened to me once by mistake) you can still win two hundred fold of your whole bankroll. I didn't win that time, but if I did, it would be over 1 BTC! What I'm sure of is that with so many dice players in the world, some people win big money with making extremely stupid moves.

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September 23, 2021, 10:18:59 PM
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Dice can be profitable if you leave it while you are in +.  It is always hard for gamblers to leave the winning session, even harder to leave the table while you are losing bankroll. Btw, there is no need for instructor simple and easiest strategies to test dice. There is no way to beat the house edge and you will end up losing all one day.
Both of the situation is hard to leave because as you win, you're thinking that you're too lucky to leave. And when you lose, you're too lost to leave and you just want to recover no matter how much you've lost. There's no need for any instructor, maybe he's just needing a guide, where to start, how much to start as a bankroll when he started playing dice. With all that have been said, he can play it alone and is he willing to spend some time and money just for an instructor?

In my case I have a hard time leaving when winning than losing, it's because of my mindset of striking while the iron is hot, I've done it twice where I won a big amount I only quit because I was so tired it was my lucky days, but it's hard to repeat that, you'll get lucky if you are lucky, you don't have to force it.
What happens is that in almost any other activity you do this is true, if you are doing well at your job then you need to keep working in that way as the chances you get recognized and get a better position or better pay get higher the better your performance is, but when it comes to luck this is not true, you cannot really get hot while you gamble in a game that has no skill involved, now I know this may seem to be the case as you win several times in a row but this is just randomness favoring you for a while and nothing more.
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