[Boxing] Jamel Herring vs Shakur Stevenson

[herurist]

this is a good match but not interesting enough to see from their boxing record which is almost the same in terms of knockout wins.
but maybe here i think jamel will be a little underdog because of his age and experience, but on the other hand shakur is also very fit especially with his age which is much younger than jamel which will definitely be a bit of an advantage for him.
apart from that I'm actually interested in the distribution of the auction results which is usually 75-25 but in this match Herring will receive 63% pay while Shakur as the challenger gets 37%.

In boxing a matter of age and experience may be only 10% can be a reference, but you also need to remember when Manny fought Ugas? Doesn't that show that as you get older, your stamina in hitting will decrease and your body will not be as good as when you are at the ideal age?
I think it's too early to draw conclusions as this has a long way to go. one full month. We learn from a boxer, Manny, who is famous for his hard punches, can lose at the end of his career before continuing his presidential candidacy in the Philippines.

this is true but at that time manny actually I don't think ugas is an opponent, even though ugas is a substitute boxer but that doesn't cover the fact that manny should have retired at that age (42 years) and i can say manny did something reckless even though indeed he has been constrained by his feet and age, but he insists on fighting, and actually if you look at it from the start, this match will already be clear who the winner is. but here it is different because if we look at the statistics and the available data, the physical condition of a boxer reaches prime condition between the ages of 28 to 35 years.
and when jamel who is now still there I think he still has a good performance starting from maturity in thinking and quite different experience with shakur who is still very young, namely 24 years old, although shakur has achieved many achievements but I think it will be a little different in terms of maturity and experience.

[zanezane]

It's an interesting match though some people are underestimating these two. Herring has a good record and he's tough and wild when it comes to the boxing ring. Shakur might just starting his boxing journey yet he also has a huge potential and it could possibly be a tough fight for Herring.

Not per se underestimating but some people just don't see them fight for a long time or they're not that good of a showman which is what some people look for in a bloodsport like boxing. It's a tough fight indeed but we can see experience play a crucial role.

[smyslov]

I often see the figure of Stevenson, he has a good career in the boxing arena, but I used to not care about every boxing tournament if the opponent was Stevenson, I was disappointed the last time I watched Stevenson vs. Jeremia until Stevenson was dubbed by many gambling bettors with the title of 'boring' boxer.



I just hope Stevenson is really serious about fighting Jamel Herring this time, otherwise, I would never place another bet on Stevenson any time, just a waste of time.

I review some of his fights and he is indeed an overhype fighter, yes he is undefeated but he's been fighting unknown fighters and this fight will finally test him if he is really that good, there are fighters who is good when they faced a dangerous fight, and I'm sure Herring will not let Stevenson use him as a stepping stone for bigger paycheck and fights.

[electronicash]

names are not really very popular in boxing. but looking at their records, Herring's age still is 35, and has more experience compared to Stevenson. what makes the fight fair i guess is that Stevenson has a perfect knockout record. I'd probably bet for the ones with more experience if i bet.

i didn't really see any of the fights of the two. but this could be very uncertain to see who will win between the two.

[Baofeng]

Thanks for this thread, I already saw this one few days ago, just forgot to post it here.

Anyhow, this is good fight at this division, I like Shakur chances so I would say that he can win this fight against the more experience Herring. Yes, they don't have a good record for winning a fight in a knock out fashion, but still Shakur some some technical skills that can offset Herring's physical advantage. Herring though most of the time doesn't know how to take advantage of his height, so it might favour Shakur again. Let's wait for the odds to come out, maybe Shakur will the slight favourite, but not that far.

[Sterbens]

It is not a popular boxer but I guess it will get also interested to the people out there.
Shakur Stevenson previously held the WBO featherweight championship and he was depending on it and it was a little bit challenging on the side of Jamel Herring at this time. They are good both fighters and this match is very exciting to see, who is possible in a favor of most bookies on this match?

They are both on the same level I guess considering the records that they have, and maybe not an interesting match to lure more viewers and there’s no odds yet for this one. I’m not familiar with this two, based on their records and the OP, the percentage for a KO match is very low so we will see a head to head match, will try to analyze this one so I can know if its worth to bet next match.

Indeed, if at first glance this does not attract too many supporters out there, even the news exposure of them fighting before is not on my TV screen. With minimal KOs from both of them, I think this fight is quite balanced. Most of us often miss the less exciting boxing fights to bet on the big Casinos. Even if for this time we have to really analyze both.

[tulusikhlas]

As of now, there's no betting odds available yet, but you can always check our popular sportsbook here in the forum, I'm sure you are familiar with it if you are betting on sports, if not, you can check their ANN threads in the gambling section.

It's true, I've searched various boxing betting sites and couldn't find any that open a betting service for this boxing match. Maybe this is because it is not very popular and also still in a fairly light class. Waiting for a few more games to get better, this gives me nothing. I would certainly visit the popular sportsbooks on offer and look for land to bet on.

[maju69]

this is true but at that time manny actually I don't think ugas is an opponent, even though ugas is a substitute boxer but that doesn't cover the fact that manny should have retired at that age (42 years) and i can say manny did something reckless even though indeed he has been constrained by his feet and age, but he insists on fighting, and actually if you look at it from the start, this match will already be clear who the winner is. but here it is different because if we look at the statistics and the available data, the physical condition of a boxer reaches prime condition between the ages of 28 to 35 years.
and when jamel who is now still there I think he still has a good performance starting from maturity in thinking and quite different experience with shakur who is still very young, namely 24 years old, although shakur has achieved many achievements but I think it will be a little different in terms of maturity and experience.

Even the points you mention cannot guarantee victory, in the ring anything can happen. so we certainly can not predict only with reference data alone. While out there this is considered ordinary manipulation. After all, this fight is not very well known, even when I search the site regarding their bet later in October I will miss it and only receive news from various media articles.

[bisdak40]

It's true, I've searched various boxing betting sites and couldn't find any that open a betting service for this boxing match. Maybe this is because it is not very popular and also still in a fairly light class. Waiting for a few more games to get better, this gives me nothing. I would certainly visit the popular sportsbooks on offer and look for land to bet on.

Maybe some of us here don't know these boxers but Shakur Stevenson is one prospect that could dominate the lightweight division in the near future. He is a silver medalist in the Olympics, one of the reasons why many US fans are expecting this guy to be a big name in boxing once he will be paired with big names like Oscar Valdez or maybe Teofimo Lopez in the next few years.

Have read an article saying that both will receive 1.5M USD, if you are not popular in the states you will not receive that kind of amount.

[fortunecrypto]

Maybe some of us here don't know these boxers but Shakur Stevenson is one prospect that could dominate the lightweight division in the near future. He is a silver medalist in the Olympics, one of the reasons why many US fans are expecting this guy to be a big name in boxing once he will be paired with big names like Oscar Valdez or maybe Teofimo Lopez in the next few years.

Have read an article saying that both will receive 1.5M USD, if you are not popular in the states you will not receive that kind of amount.

Have seen his fights on Youtube and he is not as good as those named you've mentioned but it's good that he is fighting a fighter like Herring who has a good record and like to engage this is a test for his young career, but I don't think if he wins this fight he will be in the status of Lopez and Valdez, who fought big fights and big names, he needs more big fights he is a very promising boxer though.

[Kakmakr]

I think this will definitely be a good fight to watch... Herring has a little bit more experience and a bit of a weight advantage ...but Shakur has never lost a fight.    I also think Shakur is more hungry for a good win to pave the way for his future fights.

My money is going to be on Shakur Stevenson and it is going to be the battle of the Southpaws (If I am correct, both are Southpaws) 

There will be a lot of pressure on Herring to defend his WBO super featherweight title and Shakur to prove a point... So I cannot wait for this one. 

[Zedpastin]

Even the points you mention cannot guarantee victory, in the ring anything can happen. so we certainly can not predict only with reference data alone. While out there this is considered ordinary manipulation. After all, this fight is not very well known, even when I search the site regarding their bet later in October I will miss it and only receive news from various media articles.

There is no guaranteed winner in professional boxing but there are clear advantages to some boxers over their opponents. If you put Joshua against Ruiz and he does not take the fight for granted he will win 90% of the time. If you have a boxer that goes in there complacent and overlooking their opponent then that chance reduces by a huge amount but if the world was perfect and you could guarantee which you cannot but if you could that the fighters were both taking it seriously then 9/10 times the better boxer will win. I think Shakur has a better chance here than people are giving him credit for he has never lost a fight and has never looked like he has ever been losing a fight. Every fight he has won almost every round that he has boxed which is not something that many boxers can do. I think he will win this by decision. Jamel might get a knockout if he can land but I think Shakurs ring movement will be to good.

[maju69]

Even the points you mention cannot guarantee victory, in the ring anything can happen. so we certainly can not predict only with reference data alone. While out there this is considered ordinary manipulation. After all, this fight is not very well known, even when I search the site regarding their bet later in October I will miss it and only receive news from various media articles.

There is no guaranteed winner in professional boxing but there are clear advantages to some boxers over their opponents. If you put Joshua against Ruiz and he does not take the fight for granted he will win 90% of the time. If you have a boxer that goes in there complacent and overlooking their opponent then that chance reduces by a huge amount but if the world was perfect and you could guarantee which you cannot but if you could that the fighters were both taking it seriously then 9/10 times the better boxer will win. I think Shakur has a better chance here than people are giving him credit for he has never lost a fight and has never looked like he has ever been losing a fight. Every fight he has won almost every round that he has boxed which is not something that many boxers can do. I think he will win this by decision. Jamel might get a knockout if he can land but I think Shakurs ring movement will be to good.

That is, because if you have confidence that a Shakur will be the winner then you can bet on him in the boxing fight later. Maybe even with support you can bet bigger and if there is a casino that features them for betting, you should come and give big bets with all the speculations that you believe in. Even for one minute of the final battle, the possibility of being victorious is always there.

[Yamifoud]

I think this will definitely be a good fight to watch... Herring has a little bit more experience and a bit of a weight advantage ...but Shakur has never lost a fight.    I also think Shakur is more hungry for a good win to pave the way for his future fights.

My money is going to be on Shakur Stevenson and it is going to be the battle of the Southpaws (If I am correct, both are Southpaws) 

There will be a lot of pressure on Herring to defend his WBO super featherweight title and Shakur to prove a point... So I cannot wait for this one. 

Plenty of time for them to prepare, and of course we bettors have to prepare for this as we should put a bet on this good fight. I was searching for the betting odds but could not find it, probably at this early it's not available yet, I'll wait for next month, 1 day before the fight, for sure the odds will be available. For betting purposes, I have to study these two, and personally, I have not watched any of their respective fight on live TV, so I need to make more research so I'll be able to make a confident bet, whether it's on the favorite or the underdog.

[btc_angela]

I think this will definitely be a good fight to watch... Herring has a little bit more experience and a bit of a weight advantage ...but Shakur has never lost a fight.    I also think Shakur is more hungry for a good win to pave the way for his future fights.

My money is going to be on Shakur Stevenson and it is going to be the battle of the Southpaws (If I am correct, both are Southpaws) 

There will be a lot of pressure on Herring to defend his WBO super featherweight title and Shakur to prove a point... So I cannot wait for this one. 

South paw indeed, so there is a clash of styles here, not saying that there could be head butts, but it's possible that we might see accident clash of heads early.

Yes, Shakur is the one looking for big fights in the future, so the pressure is on him to beat the other champion in this division and maybe unify the belt. So this is exciting although their names doesn't ring a bell to a casual fan here.

[Baofeng]

In other news: Oscar Valdez Calls Out Winner Of Shakur Stevenson Vs. Jamel Herring For Next Fight.

“Hopefully we can come back again [to Tucson, Arizona] with another great fighter. Hopefully it's the one we all want. You guys know who he is,” said Valdez. “We all want the winner of Shakur Stevenson and Jamel Herring. Let’s do it. They are great fighters. They are great champions. The best have to fight the best. Let the best man win that night.”

So this could be an added motivation for either fighter, because another champion are going to wait for the winner of their fight. Either one of them could be a good match for Oscar Valdez. And the good thing is that the future reunification is easy to make because all of them are under the same banner of Top Rank.

[Yaunfitda]

^^ I wonder though, who Oscar Valdez prefers to fight, Herring is tall and lengthy, while Stevenson is almost of his built.

Definitely a Valdez vs Herring/Stevenson is good for the fans and for this weight class as well. It's getting the attention is needed (although in a bad way as Valdez is testing positive), so let's wait for the winner, I might go with Stevenson, as I want him to have a fight with Valdez.

[Baofeng]

^^ I wonder though, who Oscar Valdez prefers to fight, Herring is tall and lengthy, while Stevenson is almost of his built.

Definitely a Valdez vs Herring/Stevenson is good for the fans and for this weight class as well. It's getting the attention is needed (although in a bad way as Valdez is testing positive), so let's wait for the winner, I might go with Stevenson, as I want him to have a fight with Valdez.

Either of the fighter though, I think Valdez will have an advantage. And maybe this is the reason why he called them after winning a come from behind against Robson.

Both doesn't have the knock out power, they might be technical, but Valdez can adjust, just like in his last fight, wherein he was behind the scorecard by become the aggressor in the middle of the rounds. So for me, there is no preference because it's winnable for him.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I think this will definitely be a good fight to watch... Herring has a little bit more experience and a bit of a weight advantage ...but Shakur has never lost a fight.    I also think Shakur is more hungry for a good win to pave the way for his future fights.

My money is going to be on Shakur Stevenson and it is going to be the battle of the Southpaws (If I am correct, both are Southpaws)  

There will be a lot of pressure on Herring to defend his WBO super featherweight title and Shakur to prove a point... So I cannot wait for this one.  

Plenty of time for them to prepare, and of course we bettors have to prepare for this as we should put a bet on this good fight. I was searching for the betting odds but could not find it, probably at this early it's not available yet, I'll wait for next month, 1 day before the fight, for sure the odds will be available. For betting purposes, I have to study these two, and personally, I have not watched any of their respective fight on live TV, so I need to make more research so I'll be able to make a confident bet, whether it's on the favorite or the underdog.

Plenty of fights in youtube mate, for sure you will find one and then you can make a good decision as to who you are going to bet in this fight. Shakur Stevenson though might be the odds favorites, so no surprises. This is the best fight in this division, Stevenson rated number 1 and then Herring as 2. And yes, eventually the winner will have to go and test Oscar Valdez.

[Kemarit]

^^ I wonder though, who Oscar Valdez prefers to fight, Herring is tall and lengthy, while Stevenson is almost of his built.

Definitely a Valdez vs Herring/Stevenson is good for the fans and for this weight class as well. It's getting the attention is needed (although in a bad way as Valdez is testing positive), so let's wait for the winner, I might go with Stevenson, as I want him to have a fight with Valdez.

Either of the fighter though, I think Valdez will have an advantage. And maybe this is the reason why he called them after winning a come from behind against Robson.

He can walk through with this fighters because Oscar Valdez has a good defense as well and have power in both hands.

Both doesn't have the knock out power, they might be technical, but Valdez can adjust, just like in his last fight, wherein he was behind the scorecard by become the aggressor in the middle of the rounds. So for me, there is no preference because it's winnable for him.

Oscar Valdez can box and play technical too if the fight goes on a chess game. And he is also mentally tough just like what he has shown against Robson. He was behind, so he needs to increase his work rate and then overcome and win. Same thing can happen if he fights Shakur or Herring.