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October 02, 2021, 11:24:13 AM
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That's very attractive, there's no reason not to bet on Jamel Herring if we believe in his training and being a former us marine. A young fighter against an experienced fighter, who would you choose? I guess we should go with a more veteran fighter although not undefeated, and the two losses of Jamel Herring were during the early stage of his career.
I'd second for it, it's interesting to bet an underdog has a good chance to win. It's quite hard to find a balance match, usually most of them were one sided only which almost impossible an underdog will win.
Herring is a good boxer, judging only from the statistic isn't really fair.

Definitely, Herring is a good underdog in this fight, he always love to be the underdog and then prove everyone wrong by writing him off. Currently he is 5 to 1 underdog, that's a huge gap and if we bet on him and he won, obviously that will be a big windfall for us. Again, was surprised to see him as a huge underdog against Stevenson, but he has a shot to beat the young fighter.
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October 02, 2021, 02:35:09 PM
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That's very attractive, there's no reason not to bet on Jamel Herring if we believe in his training and being a former us marine. A young fighter against an experienced fighter, who would you choose? I guess we should go with a more veteran fighter although not undefeated, and the two losses of Jamel Herring were during the early stage of his career.
I'd second for it, it's interesting to bet an underdog has a good chance to win. It's quite hard to find a balance match, usually most of them were one sided only which almost impossible an underdog will win.
Herring is a good boxer, judging only from the statistic isn't really fair.

Definitely, Herring is a good underdog in this fight, he always love to be the underdog and then prove everyone wrong by writing him off. Currently he is 5 to 1 underdog, that's a huge gap and if we bet on him and he won, obviously that will be a big windfall for us. Again, was surprised to see him as a huge underdog against Stevenson, but he has a shot to beat the young fighter.

Obviously, he has a chance by looking at his record, he should not be underestimated so the odds that we are currently seeing now might be overvalued. ] Jamel Herring is in 7 consecutive wins and has never lost a fight since 2018, that's a good basis why I'm thinking he could pull an upset here.

Might be good if more odds will be open, currently it's only an ML bet which is available.
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October 08, 2021, 10:56:20 PM
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^ There are no odds yet for the handicap, we all know that it is too early for bookies but at least ML is available and Herring is a huge underdog as far as betting, 6.x is very attractive indeed.

But the smart money is pouring on Stevenson as early as today, future fights for this kid is really looking good, (Oscar Valdez), but I would agree that this is still a very close fight. Pressure on Shakur, to show us that he is indeed the potential next cash cow.

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October 09, 2021, 04:27:25 PM
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I'm looking forward to see a good toe-to-toe fight between this two great fighters. Their match records are close to one another, looks like it will be a split decision and not via KO.
Although Jamel Herring has the advantage of this fight with a height (5'10") and reach (183cm) than Shakur Stevenson's height (5'7") and reach (173cm) but I don't think that will count as an odd because they're both known and a great fighter.

Still I want to see this two boxers fight on October 23 this year and it's yet too early to place the odds between these two fighters.

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October 09, 2021, 09:18:52 PM
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I'm looking forward to see a good toe-to-toe fight between this two great fighters. Their match records are close to one another, looks like it will be a split decision and not via KO.
Although Jamel Herring has the advantage of this fight with a height (5'10") and reach (183cm) than Shakur Stevenson's height (5'7") and reach (173cm) but I don't think that will count as an odd because they're both known and a great fighter.


Odds likely is based on the ranking of individual fighters and their achievement in boxing. In this fight, although  Stevenson is the younger fighter and has fewer fights, but the bookies (most likely what people sees) sees him better than Herring, os he is listed as the favorite to win the match.


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Still I want to see this two boxers fight on October 23 this year and it's yet too early to place the odds between these two fighters.
It doesn't matter if you place or bet now or a day before the fight, what's important is you choose a fighter that you think could win.

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October 09, 2021, 10:01:43 PM
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^ There are no odds yet for the handicap, we all know that it is too early for bookies but at least ML is available and Herring is a huge underdog as far as betting, 6.x is very attractive indeed.

But the smart money is pouring on Stevenson as early as today, future fights for this kid is really looking good, (Oscar Valdez), but I would agree that this is still a very close fight. Pressure on Shakur, to show us that he is indeed the potential next cash cow.

in some bookies, it is only 5x now for herring. but bitsler is listing it as 6x. not bad for those who want to bet on him. that's a very good winning in case herring will win. herring has more experience and a good record also. so wondering why bookies are siding heavily on shakur with the odds. is that because of the age factor? but it has been proven that age is just a number in a lot of boxing matches in the previous years. anyway, for those who are rooting for herring, this is a very good chance for you to multiply your bet in case he will win this match.

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October 10, 2021, 10:09:52 AM
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^ There are no odds yet for the handicap, we all know that it is too early for bookies but at least ML is available and Herring is a huge underdog as far as betting, 6.x is very attractive indeed.

But the smart money is pouring on Stevenson as early as today, future fights for this kid is really looking good, (Oscar Valdez), but I would agree that this is still a very close fight. Pressure on Shakur, to show us that he is indeed the potential next cash cow.

in some bookies, it is only 5x now for herring. but bitsler is listing it as 6x. not bad for those who want to bet on him. that's a very good winning in case herring will win. herring has more experience and a good record also. so wondering why bookies are siding heavily on shakur with the odds. is that because of the age factor? but it has been proven that age is just a number in a lot of boxing matches in the previous years. anyway, for those who are rooting for herring, this is a very good chance for you to multiply your bet in case he will win this match.

Most likely because of Shakur's undefeated record and yes, he is very young as compare to Herring.

And I think he is also well-known between the two, that's why sports bookies are favoring him in this fight. But as others said, he is a live dog here,  he maybe 5x-6x but he has shown that he can perform very well when the odds are stack against him. Well yeah, they calling Shakur the next cash cow but he has to get over Herring first before talking about the next champion which is Oscar Valdez.
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October 10, 2021, 01:26:11 PM
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^ There are no odds yet for the handicap, we all know that it is too early for bookies but at least ML is available and Herring is a huge underdog as far as betting, 6.x is very attractive indeed.

But the smart money is pouring on Stevenson as early as today, future fights for this kid is really looking good, (Oscar Valdez), but I would agree that this is still a very close fight. Pressure on Shakur, to show us that he is indeed the potential next cash cow.

in some bookies, it is only 5x now for herring. but bitsler is listing it as 6x. not bad for those who want to bet on him. that's a very good winning in case herring will win. herring has more experience and a good record also. so wondering why bookies are siding heavily on shakur with the odds. is that because of the age factor? but it has been proven that age is just a number in a lot of boxing matches in the previous years. anyway, for those who are rooting for herring, this is a very good chance for you to multiply your bet in case he will win this match.

Most likely because of Shakur's undefeated record and yes, he is very young as compare to Herring.

And I think he is also well-known between the two, that's why sports bookies are favoring him in this fight. But as others said, he is a live dog here,  he maybe 5x-6x but he has shown that he can perform very well when the odds are stack against him. Well yeah, they calling Shakur the next cash cow but he has to get over Herring first before talking about the next champion which is Oscar Valdez.

It should not be an easy fight for Stevenson here, he has to work hard to beat Herring who has a winning streak and I don't see Stevenson here knocking out Herring, this fight could go to distance and it will be unpredictable on who will win but betting on the underdog with huge odds, you'll likely get the advantage in a close fight.

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October 11, 2021, 07:38:48 AM
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^ There are no odds yet for the handicap, we all know that it is too early for bookies but at least ML is available and Herring is a huge underdog as far as betting, 6.x is very attractive indeed.

But the smart money is pouring on Stevenson as early as today, future fights for this kid is really looking good, (Oscar Valdez), but I would agree that this is still a very close fight. Pressure on Shakur, to show us that he is indeed the potential next cash cow.

in some bookies, it is only 5x now for herring. but bitsler is listing it as 6x. not bad for those who want to bet on him. that's a very good winning in case herring will win. herring has more experience and a good record also. so wondering why bookies are siding heavily on shakur with the odds. is that because of the age factor? but it has been proven that age is just a number in a lot of boxing matches in the previous years. anyway, for those who are rooting for herring, this is a very good chance for you to multiply your bet in case he will win this match.

Most likely because of Shakur's undefeated record and yes, he is very young as compare to Herring.

And I think he is also well-known between the two, that's why sports bookies are favoring him in this fight. But as others said, he is a live dog here,  he maybe 5x-6x but he has shown that he can perform very well when the odds are stack against him. Well yeah, they calling Shakur the next cash cow but he has to get over Herring first before talking about the next champion which is Oscar Valdez.

It should not be an easy fight for Stevenson here, he has to work hard to beat Herring who has a winning streak and I don't see Stevenson here knocking out Herring, this fight could go to distance and it will be unpredictable on who will win but betting on the underdog with huge odds, you'll likely get the advantage in a close fight.

No fight is easy in boxing as upset could happen, just like the fight of Pacquiao vs Ugas, who would have thought that the substitute of Spence would dominate the 8-time division world champion? That's the proof that as long as the boxer makes himself ready by training hard, anything could happen as though champion, they are still human and they have weaknesses as well.

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October 11, 2021, 07:57:02 AM
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^ There are no odds yet for the handicap, we all know that it is too early for bookies but at least ML is available and Herring is a huge underdog as far as betting, 6.x is very attractive indeed.

But the smart money is pouring on Stevenson as early as today, future fights for this kid is really looking good, (Oscar Valdez), but I would agree that this is still a very close fight. Pressure on Shakur, to show us that he is indeed the potential next cash cow.

in some bookies, it is only 5x now for herring. but bitsler is listing it as 6x. not bad for those who want to bet on him. that's a very good winning in case herring will win. herring has more experience and a good record also. so wondering why bookies are siding heavily on shakur with the odds. is that because of the age factor? but it has been proven that age is just a number in a lot of boxing matches in the previous years. anyway, for those who are rooting for herring, this is a very good chance for you to multiply your bet in case he will win this match.

Most likely because of Shakur's undefeated record and yes, he is very young as compare to Herring.

And I think he is also well-known between the two, that's why sports bookies are favoring him in this fight. But as others said, he is a live dog here,  he maybe 5x-6x but he has shown that he can perform very well when the odds are stack against him. Well yeah, they calling Shakur the next cash cow but he has to get over Herring first before talking about the next champion which is Oscar Valdez.

It should not be an easy fight for Stevenson here, he has to work hard to beat Herring who has a winning streak and I don't see Stevenson here knocking out Herring, this fight could go to distance and it will be unpredictable on who will win but betting on the underdog with huge odds, you'll likely get the advantage in a close fight.

I also don't see a knock out, Shakur and Herring doesn't have the power, not saying that they are weak, but if you look at their records most of their wins are by decision.

So I expect the same, although Shakur is the favorite base on the odds, it's not going to be easy for him. Herring is really a live dog, but Shakur is very ambitious as he is looking for the next big fight. So again, he needs to go past Herring first, maybe by a unanimous decision, but maybe the score will be very close.
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October 11, 2021, 02:29:20 PM
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I also don't see a knock out, Shakur and Herring doesn't have the power, not saying that they are weak, but if you look at their records most of their wins are by decision.

So I expect the same, although Shakur is the favorite base on the odds, it's not going to be easy for him. Herring is really a live dog, but Shakur is very ambitious as he is looking for the next big fight. So again, he needs to go past Herring first, maybe by a unanimous decision, but maybe the score will be very close.

Basing from the records, both are capable of winning with a KO. Shakur has 8 out of 15 while Herring has 11 out of 23, though not really that explosives but if preparations are right, both fighters can be more aggressive to win over another. Like what you have said, Shakur is very ambitious. He will try to dominate and impress everyone to have more big fight.

He will try to continue keeping his winning records, making sure that he will take care of Herring. While on the other side same thing, with the other camp, Herring will also do his best to break Shakur records.

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October 11, 2021, 03:49:38 PM
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^ There are no odds yet for the handicap, we all know that it is too early for bookies but at least ML is available and Herring is a huge underdog as far as betting, 6.x is very attractive indeed.

But the smart money is pouring on Stevenson as early as today, future fights for this kid is really looking good, (Oscar Valdez), but I would agree that this is still a very close fight. Pressure on Shakur, to show us that he is indeed the potential next cash cow.

in some bookies, it is only 5x now for herring. but bitsler is listing it as 6x. not bad for those who want to bet on him. that's a very good winning in case herring will win. herring has more experience and a good record also. so wondering why bookies are siding heavily on shakur with the odds. is that because of the age factor? but it has been proven that age is just a number in a lot of boxing matches in the previous years. anyway, for those who are rooting for herring, this is a very good chance for you to multiply your bet in case he will win this match.

Most likely because of Shakur's undefeated record and yes, he is very young as compare to Herring.

And I think he is also well-known between the two, that's why sports bookies are favoring him in this fight. But as others said, he is a live dog here,  he maybe 5x-6x but he has shown that he can perform very well when the odds are stack against him. Well yeah, they calling Shakur the next cash cow but he has to get over Herring first before talking about the next champion which is Oscar Valdez.

It should not be an easy fight for Stevenson here, he has to work hard to beat Herring who has a winning streak and I don't see Stevenson here knocking out Herring, this fight could go to distance and it will be unpredictable on who will win but betting on the underdog with huge odds, you'll likely get the advantage in a close fight.

I also don't see a knock out, Shakur and Herring doesn't have the power, not saying that they are weak, but if you look at their records most of their wins are by decision.

So I expect the same, although Shakur is the favorite base on the odds, it's not going to be easy for him. Herring is really a live dog, but Shakur is very ambitious as he is looking for the next big fight. So again, he needs to go past Herring first, maybe by a unanimous decision, but maybe the score will be very close.

Herring has really shown his best performance in the match held in Dubai. Herring has said its going to be a biggest test to Stevenson. A determined champion is really tough to be faced by the 24 year old Olympic silver medalist Stevenson. As you said yes, its going to be tough. Besides this, its going to be their day as they will earn $1.5M which is their top most career paydays. Awaiting to watch their game on 23rd October. 

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Besides this, its going to be their day as they will earn $1.5M which is their top most career paydays. Awaiting to watch their game on 23rd October. 
Nice amount, is it the total purse in this fight, I guess with that big purse this will be considered as one of the biggest fights this year. By the way, do we have some source on that so I can read more information about that particular purse, I would appreciate it if you'll share a link. 

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October 11, 2021, 05:00:27 PM
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Besides this, its going to be their day as they will earn $1.5M which is their top most career paydays. Awaiting to watch their game on 23rd October. 
Nice amount, is it the total purse in this fight, I guess with that big purse this will be considered as one of the biggest fights this year. By the way, do we have some source on that so I can read more information about that particular purse, I would appreciate it if you'll share a link. 

Sure. Was looking for page where exact info is shown on it so it got delayed. Hope the link https://www.espn.in/boxing/story/_/id/32010447/sources-jamel-herring-fight-shakur-stevenson-oct-23-atlanta should provide you the needed information. I am looking for other pages, will provide you the same if I find any.

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October 11, 2021, 05:05:45 PM
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Besides this, its going to be their day as they will earn $1.5M which is their top most career paydays. Awaiting to watch their game on 23rd October.  
Nice amount, is it the total purse in this fight, I guess with that big purse this will be considered as one of the biggest fights this year. By the way, do we have some source on that so I can read more information about that particular purse, I would appreciate it if you'll share a link.  

I don't think this fight will surpass the recent Fury - Wilder fight in terms of entertainment and heat. Judging by the statistics, bookmakers are expecting Stevenson to win by a wide margin. Stevenson is much younger than Herring and even though he's fought fewer fights in his career he still hasn't been beaten. I like Herring better but I think the risks are too high to bet on him.  

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October 11, 2021, 05:14:35 PM
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Besides this, its going to be their day as they will earn $1.5M which is their top most career paydays. Awaiting to watch their game on 23rd October. 
Nice amount, is it the total purse in this fight, I guess with that big purse this will be considered as one of the biggest fights this year. By the way, do we have some source on that so I can read more information about that particular purse, I would appreciate it if you'll share a link. 

Sure. Was looking for page where exact info is shown on it so it got delayed. Hope the link https://www.espn.in/boxing/story/_/id/32010447/sources-jamel-herring-fight-shakur-stevenson-oct-23-atlanta should provide you the needed information. I am looking for other pages, will provide you the same if I find any.
Thanks for the information mate, I can't believe the high figures while I was thinking of the Casimero vs Butler fight where the champion would only earn less than $100k in that fight. https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/10/7/22715095/probellum-wins-john-riel-casimero-vs-paul-butler-purse-bid-targets-december-11-boxing-news-2021

That was a championship fight as well, I mean, how come other division or fighters are guaranteed with a huge amount of money while some only receive a small amount although the fight is happening in the US?

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October 11, 2021, 09:04:04 PM
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in some bookies, it is only 5x now for herring. but bitsler is listing it as 6x. not bad for those who want to bet on him. that's a very good winning in case herring will win. herring has more experience and a good record also. so wondering why bookies are siding heavily on shakur with the odds. is that because of the age factor? but it has been proven that age is just a number in a lot of boxing matches in the previous years. anyway, for those who are rooting for herring, this is a very good chance for you to multiply your bet in case he will win this match.

Bookies have placed Shakur Stevenson as the favorite maybe because of age and a bit of disparity in talent, I mean Shakur is now groomed to be one of Top Rank's cash cows being an olympian there is always hype on him.

But bookies could also be wrong because as far as I remember with the Herring vs Carl Framton fight, they also have placed the latter as the favorite but Herring defeated Carl so that was sort of an upset. With Shakur not so experienced yet I think the chance of an upset is high so that 6.xx odds is so tempting and attractive.
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October 12, 2021, 08:49:06 AM
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in some bookies, it is only 5x now for herring. but bitsler is listing it as 6x. not bad for those who want to bet on him. that's a very good winning in case herring will win. herring has more experience and a good record also. so wondering why bookies are siding heavily on shakur with the odds. is that because of the age factor? but it has been proven that age is just a number in a lot of boxing matches in the previous years. anyway, for those who are rooting for herring, this is a very good chance for you to multiply your bet in case he will win this match.

Bookies have placed Shakur Stevenson as the favorite maybe because of age and a bit of disparity in talent, I mean Shakur is now groomed to be one of Top Rank's cash cows being an olympian there is always hype on him.

Yup, that's it mate, we all know how good Top Rank is promoting their fighter, to be the next cash cow like Shakur. But the kid doesn't have the knock out power though, and I see this as "issue" for him to be the next cash cow.

But bookies could also be wrong because as far as I remember with the Herring vs Carl Framton fight, they also have placed the latter as the favorite but Herring defeated Carl so that was sort of an upset. With Shakur not so experienced yet I think the chance of an upset is high so that 6.xx odds is so tempting and attractive.

Correct, he was the underdog with the Frampton fight, but he completely annihilate and score knock downs and win the fight with stoppage if my memory serves me right. So that 6.x odds is very attractive specially for those who love to go on the underdogs.

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October 13, 2021, 07:16:38 AM
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Well it must be recognized that the WBO Junior weight champion is going to make himself felt, and apparently the WBO will not stop anything this time, his main contender Shakur is the first time he will face in a massive place, not bad for him The beginning of the great for this boy, if things go well it will be unforgettable for the boy, although the bookmakers give more probability for him, he could not underestimate Jamel, because defending the title is something imperative, at the moment I wouldn't know who to bet on .... I think the nverbs can betray Shakur.

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October 13, 2021, 10:29:45 AM
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I also don't see a knock out, Shakur and Herring doesn't have the power, not saying that they are weak, but if you look at their records most of their wins are by decision.

So I expect the same, although Shakur is the favorite base on the odds, it's not going to be easy for him. Herring is really a live dog, but Shakur is very ambitious as he is looking for the next big fight. So again, he needs to go past Herring first, maybe by a unanimous decision, but maybe the score will be very close.

Basing from the records, both are capable of winning with a KO. Shakur has 8 out of 15 while Herring has 11 out of 23, though not really that explosives but if preparations are right, both fighters can be more aggressive to win over another. Like what you have said, Shakur is very ambitious. He will try to dominate and impress everyone to have more big fight.

He will try to continue keeping his winning records, making sure that he will take care of Herring. While on the other side same thing, with the other camp, Herring will also do his best to break Shakur records.

That is not a knockout fighter, it should be at least 70% and higher to say that a boxer is a knock out artist. So I'm not seeing a knock out is going to happen in this fight, but I wouldn't say that they have a good chin too. Don't get me wrong, both are good champions, but they are not in the breed wherein they can be the A-side. I think Oscar Valdez is still the king of this division until proven otherwise by Stevenson.
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