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September 26, 2021, 10:33:14 PM
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I actually think on the contrary Jonas Sultan will increase his motivation in boxing because he got the best card in boxing against Caraballo, despite the fact that in the ring Caraballo is almost on average beating his opponent under the fifth round and he always carries a trophy.

It's true that Caraballo's career in the boxing arena has not been defeated, but I think Jonas Sultan should train even harder to fight Caraballo, October 30th this is the right and good opportunity to lift Jonas Sultan's career in boxing, I'm not siding with Jonas Sultan, I remember LEWIS beat TYSON back then, all can turn around not as we imagine, factor.

I'll wait for the betting odds before I will make a conclusion, Sultan might be the underdog here because he is not a champion and his opponent has a great record, so it's again an opportunity to beat the underdog as we all know that Filipino boxers are quality boxers, and the fact that he is working under MP promotion, it adds some confidence.

Caraballo is definitely will be the favorite of bookies here. However, we don't know how much gap they will give to these 2. So if the odds are high on Sultan, may be better to bet on him especially if the odds on Caraballo will be like 1.0x. These days, everyone can make an upset if he is truly prepared for the fight. So we can't really be sure here even if Caraballo has very good record and more popular than Sultan.
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September 27, 2021, 04:08:34 AM
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Caraballo is definitely will be the favorite of bookies here. However, we don't know how much gap they will give to these 2.
No odds yet for this two fighter, we can't tell who's going to be the favorite and who's serve as underdog.

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So if the odds are high on Sultan, may be better to bet on him especially if the odds on Caraballo will be like 1.0x.

i go with you, I also eyeing for sultan if Caraballo earned the bookies, better to risk your money with high stake odd

which very possible to make an upset.

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These days, everyone can make an upset if he is truly prepared for the fight. So we can't really be sure here even if Caraballo has very good record and more popular than Sultan.

Until they start throwing punches we can't tell who's really better between the two, as even thereare available data but fighters

always have surprises when already inside the ring.

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September 27, 2021, 04:46:57 AM
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@Russlenat - right, the blue print has been laid out by Manny Pacquiao. So Filipino boxers can follow it to the tee. On the other hand, I believed that Pacquiao is destined to be one of the greatest that came from the Philippines after the Flash Elorde.

So it's dedication and a little of timing and of course the God given talent to really propel the next generation of boxers like Jonas Sultan to follow in the footsteps of Manny Pacquiao.
Even if the blueprint is laid out for them to follow to the tee, it's hard to replace the legacy that Pacquiao has left, and it's insurmountable for now given that there's no announcement of retirement yet for the People's Champ, they have to keep striving for this to happen.

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September 27, 2021, 04:56:44 AM
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Until they start throwing punches we can't tell who's really better between the two, as even thereare available data but fighters

always have surprises when already inside the ring.

I agree if Sultan can take Caraballo's punch and frustrate him just like what he did to Casimero, Caraballo is in big trouble, I consider Sultan to be a more technical fighter he is always not in a hurry to knock out his opponent always patient and wait for the right moment to deliver his big punches, I'm on Sultan on this fight.
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September 27, 2021, 05:24:54 AM
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Until they start throwing punches we can't tell who's really better between the two, as even thereare available data but fighters

always have surprises when already inside the ring.

I agree if Sultan can take Caraballo's punch and frustrate him just like what he did to Casimero, Caraballo is in big trouble, I consider Sultan to be a more technical fighter he is always not in a hurry to knock out his opponent always patient and wait for the right moment to deliver his big punches, I'm on Sultan on this fight.

A good strategy that most champs have, observing the opponent's attacks and try to see if they can take solid punches and if does, they will begin to counter and start attacking. If Sultan sees that way, Caraballo is not in the good place, though it's been a long while when Sultan beats Casimero, but the confidence that you can repeat the same win over and over already inside him.

Can't wait for the betting odds for this. I'll be more on Sultan's side.

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September 27, 2021, 07:16:35 AM
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Until they start throwing punches we can't tell who's really better between the two, as even thereare available data but fighters

always have surprises when already inside the ring.

I agree if Sultan can take Caraballo's punch and frustrate him just like what he did to Casimero, Caraballo is in big trouble, I consider Sultan to be a more technical fighter he is always not in a hurry to knock out his opponent always patient and wait for the right moment to deliver his big punches, I'm on Sultan on this fight.

A good strategy that most champs have, observing the opponent's attacks and try to see if they can take solid punches and if does, they will begin to counter and start attacking. If Sultan sees that way, Caraballo is not in the good place, though it's been a long while when Sultan beats Casimero, but the confidence that you can repeat the same win over and over already inside him.

Can't wait for the betting odds for this. I'll be more on Sultan's side.

I hope that Sultan will be the underdog so I can bet more on him. He is an underrated fighter and I know he has improved a lot under MP promotion, so that's the reason I like him if he will be listed as the underdog in this fight, if not, then I might just sit this one and just watch the fight without a bet.

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September 29, 2021, 08:28:27 PM
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Until they start throwing punches we can't tell who's really better between the two, as even thereare available data but fighters

always have surprises when already inside the ring.

I agree if Sultan can take Caraballo's punch and frustrate him just like what he did to Casimero, Caraballo is in big trouble, I consider Sultan to be a more technical fighter he is always not in a hurry to knock out his opponent always patient and wait for the right moment to deliver his big punches, I'm on Sultan on this fight.

A good strategy that most champs have, observing the opponent's attacks and try to see if they can take solid punches and if does, they will begin to counter and start attacking. If Sultan sees that way, Caraballo is not in the good place, though it's been a long while when Sultan beats Casimero, but the confidence that you can repeat the same win over and over already inside him.

Can't wait for the betting odds for this. I'll be more on Sultan's side.

I hope that Sultan will be the underdog so I can bet more on him. He is an underrated fighter and I know he has improved a lot under MP promotion, so that's the reason I like him if he will be listed as the underdog in this fight, if not, then I might just sit this one and just watch the fight without a bet.

He will be the underdog because he is not the champion and his opponent is undefeated.

What I only like to see is the odds will be available early although the fight is one month from now, at least when the odds are available early, we can bet on Sultan and we might have the best value of odds.

Sultan coming from a big KO win against Carter, I guess that would help boost his confidence.

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September 29, 2021, 09:22:58 PM
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Until they start throwing punches we can't tell who's really better between the two, as even thereare available data but fighters

always have surprises when already inside the ring.

I agree if Sultan can take Caraballo's punch and frustrate him just like what he did to Casimero, Caraballo is in big trouble, I consider Sultan to be a more technical fighter he is always not in a hurry to knock out his opponent always patient and wait for the right moment to deliver his big punches, I'm on Sultan on this fight.

A good strategy that most champs have, observing the opponent's attacks and try to see if they can take solid punches and if does, they will begin to counter and start attacking. If Sultan sees that way, Caraballo is not in the good place, though it's been a long while when Sultan beats Casimero, but the confidence that you can repeat the same win over and over already inside him.

Can't wait for the betting odds for this. I'll be more on Sultan's side.

I hope that Sultan will be the underdog so I can bet more on him. He is an underrated fighter and I know he has improved a lot under MP promotion, so that's the reason I like him if he will be listed as the underdog in this fight, if not, then I might just sit this one and just watch the fight without a bet.

He will be the underdog because he is not the champion and his opponent is undefeated.

What I only like to see is the odds will be available early although the fight is one month from now, at least when the odds are available early, we can bet on Sultan and we might have the best value of odds.

Sultan coming from a big KO win against Carter, I guess that would help boost his confidence.

I believe sportsbooks' favorite here will be Caraballo, but the gap of odds? We don't know yet. But even x4 for Sultan is good enough to bet, as he is not very popular yet. So bookies may take him for granted and highly favor Caraballo here. Which of course, is great for those who will bet on Sultan. We've seen upsets this year, and this one may not be excluded in the upsets of the year. Maybe a week before the fight, the odds will be out from crypto sportsbooks.
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September 29, 2021, 10:17:04 PM
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Caraballo has a good knock out record but it goes down to who he has fought and knock out, Jonas Sultan is one of the few fighters who has beaten Casimero and he beat Casimero by unanimous decision and he handle Casimero's power effectively he has gone to a lot of tough fight and he has fought fighters who has punching power because he can take it, I'll go for Jonas Sultan, but still, this Caraballo has a knock out power.
Agreed, at the beginning of their careers many boxers have a high KO rate as they are fighting against other boxers which are just starting out their careers so this is natural, it is later on their careers when you can see if they actually have the punching power of a champion when they begin to KO other established fighters.

So while a perfect record and a 100% KO rate may seem impressive, and in a way it is, I am more impressed by the resume of Sultan and the fights he has sustained in the past against good boxers, and if I were to make a bet I will make it in favor of Sultan.
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September 30, 2021, 12:59:29 AM
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I just checked my favourite sport bookies and no odds yet for this fight.

But as others have said, Caraballo will be the out standing favourite here based on his unbeaten record. Nevertheless, he can underestimate Sultan, and for bettors he is a live underdog. A 3.x odds for him will be great, as it will be very attractive for us. And personally, I'm giving him a chance against this supposedly knock out artist, he hasn't face a caliber like Sultan in the past, so maybe he will be in for a shock, specially Filipino who has a big fighting heart.

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September 30, 2021, 02:22:28 AM
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I agree if Sultan can take Caraballo's punch and frustrate him just like what he did to Casimero, Caraballo is in big trouble, I consider Sultan to be a more technical fighter he is always not in a hurry to knock out his opponent always patient and wait for the right moment to deliver his big punches, I'm on Sultan on this fight.

If the Caraballo won't have the chance to finish him in the early rounds then he will be in big trouble. it seems like Sultan does not mind if the fight will continue until the last round because he has lots of stamina. When he fought Casimero and manage to take the win, I think he has lots of confidence to beat Caraballo with the same strategy again and also with an updated version of it cause he has improved a lot since then.

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September 30, 2021, 02:40:06 AM
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Until they start throwing punches we can't tell who's really better between the two, as even thereare available data but fighters

always have surprises when already inside the ring.

I agree if Sultan can take Caraballo's punch and frustrate him just like what he did to Casimero, Caraballo is in big trouble, I consider Sultan to be a more technical fighter he is always not in a hurry to knock out his opponent always patient and wait for the right moment to deliver his big punches, I'm on Sultan on this fight.
Correct he is not an aggressive fighter not like Casimero , and this is why i like Sultan's strategy and skills .

Actually i watched most of His recent fight and i think he has a chance winning against Caraballo.

but the Odds are still not available though there is still 1 month for this to take place so maybe in the next few weeks it will happen.









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September 30, 2021, 02:56:05 AM
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Rising Filipino boxer Jonas Sultan takes on Carlos Caraballo, the Puerto Rican sensation who has beaten all his opponents by knockout

On paper, Carlos Caraballo appears to be a monster. A perfect 14-0 slate and all by knockout.

For Jonas Sultan, however, ring record hardly matters.
source:
https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/jonas-sultan-tangles-with-fight-carlos-caraballo-october-2021

Boxrec records.
Carlos Caraballo
14-0
Jonas Sultan
17-5 (win-loss)

Sultan is under the MP promotion now and he will fight an undefeated fighter who has a 100% KO rate.
What do you think his chances against the Puerto Rican in this fight?


IMO, indeed Caraballo is one of the strongest fighter in his time with a record of 14-0 all by knockout but I don't think he has the advantage with the Filipino boxer with a record of 17-5 WL (11 of that is knockout)

Caraballo can't defeat Sultan easily in the early rounds because Sultan is more aggressive than his opponent and the Filipino boxer has more experience than the Puerto Rican fighter and can become an advantage and can fight Caraballo toe-to-toe.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-158521.html

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September 30, 2021, 04:17:42 AM
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I actually think on the contrary Jonas Sultan will increase his motivation in boxing because he got the best card in boxing against Caraballo, despite the fact that in the ring Caraballo is almost on average beating his opponent under the fifth round and he always carries a trophy.

It's true that Caraballo's career in the boxing arena has not been defeated, but I think Jonas Sultan should train even harder to fight Caraballo, October 30th this is the right and good opportunity to lift Jonas Sultan's career in boxing, I'm not siding with Jonas Sultan, I remember LEWIS beat TYSON back then, all can turn around not as we imagine, factor.

I'll wait for the betting odds before I will make a conclusion, Sultan might be the underdog here because he is not a champion and his opponent has a great record, so it's again an opportunity to beat the underdog as we all know that Filipino boxers are quality boxers, and the fact that he is working under MP promotion, it adds some confidence.

Caraballo is definitely will be the favorite of bookies here. However, we don't know how much gap they will give to these 2. So if the odds are high on Sultan, may be better to bet on him especially if the odds on Caraballo will be like 1.0x. These days, everyone can make an upset if he is truly prepared for the fight. So we can't really be sure here even if Caraballo has very good record and more popular than Sultan.
Jonas Sultan with so much losses and not so attractive statistics

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Jonas Sultan
Statistics
Real name   Jonas Andaya Sultan
Nickname(s)   "One Punch"
Weight(s)   Junior bantamweight
Height   5 ft 4 in (1.63 m)
Nationality   Filipino
Born   16 December 1991 (age 29)
Tampilisan, Zamboanga del Norte, Philippines
Stance   Orthodox
Boxing record
Total fights   21
Wins   16
Wins by KO   10
Losses   5

Look at the losses? 5 losses in 16 wins ? this is not that good to expect for someone who will be facing this statistics

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Carlos Caeaballo =  Pro Boxing Record: 14-0-0 (Win-Loss-Draw)


14 complete wins recorded , no losses to draws .

I'm afraid that Sultan has any advantage in this bout.

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September 30, 2021, 11:16:18 AM
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IMO, indeed Caraballo is one of the strongest fighter in his time with a record of 14-0 all by knockout but I don't think he has the advantage with the Filipino boxer with a record of 17-5 WL (11 of that is knockout)

Caraballo can't defeat Sultan easily in the early rounds because Sultan is more aggressive than his opponent and the Filipino boxer has more experience than the Puerto Rican fighter and can become an advantage and can fight Caraballo toe-to-toe.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-158521.html

He can't as Sultan is an experienced fighter who can also knock him down.

If Caraballo fight lazy and thinks he can easily beat his opponent, he might be surprised with what Sultan may bring him.

We know that inside the ring, the fighter who prepared well is the one who have the advantage, upset can happened anytime

Sultan have that chance if Caraballo will not take care and let him go toe-to-toe.
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September 30, 2021, 11:24:04 AM
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IMO, indeed Caraballo is one of the strongest fighter in his time with a record of 14-0 all by knockout but I don't think he has the advantage with the Filipino boxer with a record of 17-5 WL (11 of that is knockout)

Caraballo can't defeat Sultan easily in the early rounds because Sultan is more aggressive than his opponent and the Filipino boxer has more experience than the Puerto Rican fighter and can become an advantage and can fight Caraballo toe-to-toe.

http://philboxing.com/news/story-158521.html

He can't as Sultan is an experienced fighter who can also knock him down.

If Caraballo fight lazy and thinks he can easily beat his opponent, he might be surprised with what Sultan may bring him.

We know that inside the ring, the fighter who prepared well is the one who have the advantage, upset can happened anytime

Sultan have that chance if Caraballo will not take care and let him go toe-to-toe.

We will support Sultan although his opponent is undeniably good based on his undefeated record, maybe Caraballo will have the toughest fight of his career against Sultan, and if Sultan wins this, it's another big win for him that might make him close to his dreams to be a champion.

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September 30, 2021, 12:27:01 PM
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Carlos Caraballo is undefeated and is definitely going to be a threat to Jonas Sultan. Both fighters have shown impressive performance in their last matches. Caraballo has a good rhythm I like. However, Sultan should not be overlooked or underestimated his got a lot to prove in this match.

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September 30, 2021, 12:49:51 PM
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Carlos Caraballo is undefeated and is definitely going to be a threat to Jonas Sultan. Both fighters have shown impressive performance in their last matches. Caraballo has a good rhythm I like. However, Sultan should not be overlooked or underestimated his got a lot to prove in this match.
He will not underestimate, in fact, he will train more as his opponent is not an easy one. Based on Garaballo's record, he beat all his opponents via KO.

He is 14-0 with 14 KO (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/773544)
Might be a little number of fights only, but that 14 KO is very impressive as only a few boxers have done that. 

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October 01, 2021, 04:00:02 AM
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Carlos Caraballo is undefeated and is definitely going to be a threat to Jonas Sultan. Both fighters have shown impressive performance in their last matches. Caraballo has a good rhythm I like. However, Sultan should not be overlooked or underestimated his got a lot to prove in this match.
He will not underestimate, in fact, he will train more as his opponent is not an easy one. Based on Garaballo's record, he beat all his opponents via KO.

He is 14-0 with 14 KO (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/773544)
Might be a little number of fights only, but that 14 KO is very impressive as only a few boxers have done that. 

It might be very impressive on papers, but all he has beaten is not well recognized, or least have a bad records already. So if he steps up against Sultan is a big challenge for him to continue his winning streak. And Sultan hasn't lost on a knock out, all his defeat is by decision. So Caraballo needs to knock out this guy to continue his hype around his weight class. Otherwise if he losses, I would say that he is over rated and over hype. So if there is someone that needs not to underestimate, it is Caraballo because the pressure is on him.

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October 01, 2021, 06:18:14 AM
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Carlos Caraballo is undefeated and is definitely going to be a threat to Jonas Sultan. Both fighters have shown impressive performance in their last matches. Caraballo has a good rhythm I like. However, Sultan should not be overlooked or underestimated his got a lot to prove in this match.
He will not underestimate, in fact, he will train more as his opponent is not an easy one. Based on Garaballo's record, he beat all his opponents via KO.

He is 14-0 with 14 KO (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/773544)
Might be a little number of fights only, but that 14 KO is very impressive as only a few boxers have done that. 

It might be very impressive on papers, but all he has beaten is not well recognized, or least have a bad records already. So if he steps up against Sultan is a big challenge for him to continue his winning streak. And Sultan hasn't lost on a knock out, all his defeat is by decision. So Caraballo needs to knock out this guy to continue his hype around his weight class. Otherwise if he losses, I would say that he is over rated and over hype. So if there is someone that needs not to underestimate, it is Caraballo because the pressure is on him.
I believe it will be the case because Sultan will not easily give up his dreams to get bigger fights in the future, and Sultan knows what when he will lose, he he will have to build his name again to be popular, and with the big contribution in the boxing world in terms of market, a rising boxer can't afford to lose.

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