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Author Topic: [BOXING] Jonas Sultan vs Carlos Caraballo - October 30, 2021  (Read 1075 times)
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October 31, 2021, 11:08:59 AM
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What the f**k is Jonas Sultan wearing a Batman suit?

Sultan look re hydrated and above weight class to Caraballo, did he say that he is the Pinoy Shawn Porter as the announcer said?

And I think when Sultan gets the first knockdown in the second round. Caraballo face chances and we can smell upset already. But it's weird that Sultan only got 1 point lead going into the judges scorecard. Maybe if not for that 4 knock down, maybe Caraballo will win.

this is what i was thinking also. if sultan didn't make those 4 knock downs, he won't emerge as winner. got my winnings but not much because i only bet small amount. now that caraballo got his first loss, will he ask for re-match? or get a break first.
sultan more then likely will ask for a bigger pay cut next time. after all he beat caraballo and ruin his 0 record.

I don't think there is a need for a rematch, as much as Caraballo has a good record, he was really outclassed by the more experience Sultan in this fight.

Sultan is really big in this fight, but it looks like the judges wanted to rob him of a win, was very obvious with the ridiculous score they gave. Clearly 7-3 in favor of Sultan with 4 knock down.

If they'll ask for a rematch, why not give them a rematch.

This was one of the best fights this year and if Sultan was not able to knock down Caraballo many times, he would have lost the fight as Caraballo is more accurate. Sultan is really strong, does not throw many punches but his power is felt by the weak chin of Caraballo.

Congratulations to our kabayan and those bettors who risk at @5 for Sultan to win.

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October 31, 2021, 11:21:40 AM
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It's really interesting to see an upset and bet on underdog Cheesy This is why previously I pointed out we shouldn't only look by his record, but we should look on his performance and his opponent. However Caraballo will take this as lesson since this is the first time he fight with top boxer.

Congrats for users who bet on Sultan, at least this winning cover my lost when I bet Herring.

I wonder what's running on Carfaballo's mind he is raising his hand with an expectation of a win
Because he thought his undefeated record wouldn't break lol Grin

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October 31, 2021, 11:26:05 AM
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It's really interesting to see an upset and bet on underdog Cheesy This is why previously I pointed out we shouldn't only look by his record, but we should look on his performance and his opponent. However Caraballo will take this as lesson since this is the first time he fight with top boxer.

Congrats for users who bet on Sultan, at least this winning cover my lost when I bet Herring.
Thanks mate, lol. I also won my bet on Sultan and it's a little scary as while Caraballo were able to survive the knock down, I have in my mind that Sultan might be hit by a powerful punch of Caraballo and he won't be able to stand, but Sultan was strong enough and he prove to the fans that he has the heart to fight in a championship fight.


I wonder what's running on Carfaballo's mind he is raising his hand with an expectation of a win
Because he thought his undefeated record wouldn't break lol Grin
He knows but it's probably just the boxers'  mind conditioning to think they on even though they struggle.

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October 31, 2021, 12:25:05 PM
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It's really interesting to see an upset and bet on underdog Cheesy This is why previously I pointed out we shouldn't only look by his record, but we should look on his performance and his opponent. However Caraballo will take this as lesson since this is the first time he fight with top boxer.

Congrats for users who bet on Sultan, at least this winning cover my lost when I bet Herring.
Thanks mate, lol. I also won my bet on Sultan and it's a little scary as while Caraballo were able to survive the knock down, I have in my mind that Sultan might be hit by a powerful punch of Caraballo and he won't be able to stand, but Sultan was strong enough and he prove to the fans that he has the heart to fight in a championship fight.


I wonder what's running on Carfaballo's mind he is raising his hand with an expectation of a win
Because he thought his undefeated record wouldn't break lol Grin
He knows but it's probably just the boxers'  mind conditioning to think they on even though they struggle.

I'm not too familiar with sultan, most people were thinking sultan won't be able to win the fight because he's not a popular fighter, but it turns out to be entertaining. Sultan is a smart fighter . At least his winning will give him more fans.

Maybe not popular at all as he is not undefeated but he is more experienced and the basis is not only popularity if you choose a winner in a fight. Make sure you study their previous fights and Sultan being a more experienced fighter, I believe he is undervalued and those who bet on him see that potential, so they come up as a winner also.

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October 31, 2021, 12:44:40 PM
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I'm not too familiar with sultan, most people were thinking sultan won't be able to win the fight because he's not a popular fighter, but it turns out to be entertaining. Sultan is a smart fighter . At least his winning will give him more fans.

The guy is also unknown where I myself didn't know that we're both residing in the same province. Anyway, he just give all his best and he won the fight with no doubt and will gonna be one of the best fighters in the Philippines' history since he just earned his world title today. Congratulations to him and he just made everyone who watches his fight happy today.


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October 31, 2021, 12:52:40 PM
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I'm not too familiar with sultan, most people were thinking sultan won't be able to win the fight because he's not a popular fighter, but it turns out to be entertaining. Sultan is a smart fighter . At least his winning will give him more fans.

The guy is also unknown where I myself didn't know that we're both residing in the same province. Anyway, he just give all his best and he won the fight with no doubt and will gonna be one of the best fighters in the Philippines' history since he just earned his world title today. Congratulations to him and he just made everyone who watches his fight happy today.



I am just curious bro, what province in the Philippines did Jonas Sultan come from? I know he is now a pride of the Filipino but I like to know where he is coming from as I believe most of the great boxers in the Philippines are coming from Mindanao, just like Manny Pacman.



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October 31, 2021, 12:56:13 PM
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It's really interesting to see an upset and bet on underdog Cheesy This is why previously I pointed out we shouldn't only look by his record, but we should look on his performance and his opponent. However Caraballo will take this as lesson since this is the first time he fight with top boxer.

Even Top Rank didn't expect this upset to happen, they just recently signed Caraballo to their promotional company thinking that the guy is a big crowd drawer in the future but the mistake they made was they matched Caraballo with a Filipino boxer. Caraballo's chin was exposed in this fight and i think his future opponent will make this one a target.

@Baofeng, it's a double win for us today bro if you have bet on Zepeda. Not a good night for Puerto Rican boxing fans here tonight but we can expect Vargas and Caraballo to bounce back strong.

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October 31, 2021, 01:03:18 PM
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Right, it's good to put some sats on Sultan here, that is a great odds for us.

And what if it he really upsets Caraballo in this fight, a win-win for us. And it will be good to see another Filipino in the bantamweight division and maybe in the future because of this win, he can aligned and fight for the world title. So Jonas better not disappoint his Filipino fans here, Lol.

Seems like you have done everything right with your bet. Contratulations to that. To be honest i wasn't even aware that this fight happens and i did not know both fighters before that fight because i am not that much into boxing and i don't usually watch the fights of the lower weight divisions, but i found the highlight reel of this fight today in my youtube recommendations and i was surprised about the punching power of Sultan. In the bantam division u usually see a series of very fast but not so strong punches and not that many knockdowns but sultan has some serious punching power and all of his knock downs were pretty much one punch out of nowhere..pretty impressive.
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October 31, 2021, 01:26:17 PM
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I'm not too familiar with sultan, most people were thinking sultan won't be able to win the fight because he's not a popular fighter, but it turns out to be entertaining. Sultan is a smart fighter . At least his winning will give him more fans.

The guy is also unknown where I myself didn't know that we're both residing in the same province. Anyway, he just give all his best and he won the fight with no doubt and will gonna be one of the best fighters in the Philippines' history since he just earned his world title today. Congratulations to him and he just made everyone who watches his fight happy today.



I am just curious bro, what province in the Philippines did Jonas Sultan come from? I know he is now a pride of the Filipino but I like to know where he is coming from as I believe most of the great boxers in the Philippines are coming from Mindanao, just like Manny Pacman.

You can read this new article released by rappler.com.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/zamboanguenos-hail-jonas-sultan-win-over-carlos-caraballo

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Proud Zamboangueños rejoiced as their boxing hero from Tampilisan, Zamboanga del Norte, ended the 14-win streak of Caraballo, all by knockouts.

It was also mentioned in the article that a boxer Eumir Marcial who is a bronze medalist of the last Olympics is from Mindanao, Zamboanga to be more specific. So, you are right, lost of talents in mindanao and good thing we have a promoter that could help them bring their talent to the world.

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October 31, 2021, 01:42:03 PM
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Sultan shows totally disrespect to Caraballo he even shows him that his punches are nothing, this is one problem if you have not faced who knows how to counter punch and move, four knockdowns is too much, but I admire Caraballo's heart it's just Sultan is one tough fighter having beaten Casimero, on of the boxer with a knock out punch, Caraballo is not promising anymore, but he can still come back.






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October 31, 2021, 01:42:14 PM
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Congratulations to Jonas Sultan, that was a good win but I don't agree with the scoring, it looks like the judges put their money on Caraballo but it's too obvious that Sultan won because of his knockdown scores. I hope they will be investigated as it looks like they try to build the undefeated fighter but failed.

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October 31, 2021, 02:07:06 PM
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Congratulations to Jonas Sultan, that was a good win but I don't agree with the scoring, it looks like the judges put their money on Caraballo but it's too obvious that Sultan won because of his knockdown scores. I hope they will be investigated as it looks like they try to build the undefeated fighter but failed.
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"This is boxing. This is war,” Sultan said. “And I came to win tonight. Caraballo is a tough man, but I wanted this one.


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I think it was a keenly contested fight with a narrow win for Sultan. A narrow win of 94-93 points isn't a fight that was easy to decide but at the end of the day the victory was given to Jonas Sultan and in the game of sports victory must be declared. Is up ty Caraballo who has the crowd by his side to restrategize
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October 31, 2021, 06:23:52 PM
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Congratulations to Jonas Sultan, that was a good win but I don't agree with the scoring, it looks like the judges put their money on Caraballo but it's too obvious that Sultan won because of his knockdown scores. I hope they will be investigated as it looks like they try to build the undefeated fighter but failed.
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"This is boxing. This is war,” Sultan said. “And I came to win tonight. Caraballo is a tough man, but I wanted this one.


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I think it was a keenly contested fight with a narrow win for Sultan. A narrow win of 94-93 points isn't a fight that was easy to decide but at the end of the day the victory was given to Jonas Sultan and in the game of sports victory must be declared. Is up ty Caraballo who has the crowd by his side to restrategize

Really a close fight. From the very beginning the match was very close. Every round created expectation, because it isn't possible to predict who the winner will be. Round 6 gave momentum for Sultan and he properly made use of it. Carlos Caraballo was good with his defence than Jonas Sultan. Finally it was an enjoyable day for Philippine people.

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October 31, 2021, 06:39:56 PM
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I'm not too familiar with sultan, most people were thinking sultan won't be able to win the fight because he's not a popular fighter, but it turns out to be entertaining. Sultan is a smart fighter . At least his winning will give him more fans.

The guy is also unknown where I myself didn't know that we're both residing in the same province. Anyway, he just give all his best and he won the fight with no doubt and will gonna be one of the best fighters in the Philippines' history since he just earned his world title today. Congratulations to him and he just made everyone who watches his fight happy today.



I am just curious bro, what province in the Philippines did Jonas Sultan come from? I know he is now a pride of the Filipino but I like to know where he is coming from as I believe most of the great boxers in the Philippines are coming from Mindanao, just like Manny Pacman.

You can read this new article released by rappler.com.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/zamboanguenos-hail-jonas-sultan-win-over-carlos-caraballo

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Proud Zamboangueños rejoiced as their boxing hero from Tampilisan, Zamboanga del Norte, ended the 14-win streak of Caraballo, all by knockouts.

It was also mentioned in the article that a boxer Eumir Marcial who is a bronze medalist of the last Olympics is from Mindanao, Zamboanga to be more specific. So, you are right, lost of talents in mindanao and good thing we have a promoter that could help them bring their talent to the world.
A promoter who have all the capabilities to promote more talents not just from Mindanao but all over the country, He can use his fame to bring more good fights for his fellowmen, hopefully this upcoming election, whatever his fate he won't forget about the people who really needed his fame to gain good recognitions and more promising fights.

Congrats Jonas Sultan, you proved another record that pinoy fighters always have the capabilities to upset their opponents. Younger and much promising Caraballo ended up short.  Wink


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October 31, 2021, 09:40:32 PM
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Really a close fight. From the very beginning the match was very close. Every round created expectation, because it isn't possible to predict who the winner will be. Round 6 gave momentum for Sultan and he properly made use of it. Carlos Caraballo was good with his defence than Jonas Sultan. Finally it was an enjoyable day for Philippine people.
It was a close fight because Caraballo was able to stand up and continue to fight, he also have good rounds since he has good boxing skills compared to Sultan, but because he has a weak chin, that made him suffer from the hands of Sultan who are always willing to finish him, it's just unfortunate he cannot totally knock him out.

However, the judges might be a little obvious as the score was very close despite Sultan scores knockdowns, which tells me that though Sultan wins, boxing is still one of the corrupt sports in the world.

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October 31, 2021, 11:18:59 PM
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Sultan Could have lost the fight if he only has three knockdowns this is the scorecard he lose on almost all the judges scorecards on rounds that he did not floor Caraballo, there was around where he knock down Caraballo and yet it was scored 10-9, all three judges seems to have a bet on this match, this will be questionable and will become controversial if Sultan lost the match or even a draw.


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November 01, 2021, 02:55:42 AM
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I just watched the replay of this fight and I was amazed on how dedicated Sultan to win and chasing Caraballo often. But the judges seems not fair for this one.

Anyway he win and thats what matter so congrats to Jonas Sultan. You gave us an exciting fight and I think they deserves a rematch, they're both skilled.

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November 01, 2021, 03:39:15 AM
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I just watched the replay of this fight and I was amazed on how dedicated Sultan to win and chasing Caraballo often. But the judges seems not fair for this one.

Anyway he win and thats what matter so congrats to Jonas Sultan. You gave us an exciting fight and I think they deserves a rematch, they're both skilled.

There will be a rematch if the match is close like a split decision where the fight could go either way or if in the contract there is a stipulation of  a rematch but this happens where the champion losses the title, the boxing community believe that Caraballo will win the match because he is a promising boxer you seldom see a boxer with that kind of record, but Sultan just break that record.
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November 01, 2021, 04:09:46 AM
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Sultan Could have lost the fight if he only has three knockdowns this is the scorecard he lose on almost all the judges scorecards on rounds that he did not floor Caraballo, there was around where he knock down Caraballo and yet it was scored 10-9, all three judges seems to have a bet on this match, this will be questionable and will become controversial if Sultan lost the match or even a draw.



Maybe they have a bet, but I think they don't want the Filipino to win the title here, simply as that.

How can they score a 10-9 round when it should be 10-8 when a fighter knocks down his opponent?

I do agree, if Sultan does lost this one, this will be one robbery, because of the 4 knockdowns he scored and yet he didn't win the fight. I guess the judges can't do anything about it but to look as if the fight were really close in their eyes.
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November 01, 2021, 04:17:34 AM
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It's really interesting to see an upset and bet on underdog Cheesy This is why previously I pointed out we shouldn't only look by his record, but we should look on his performance and his opponent. However Caraballo will take this as lesson since this is the first time he fight with top boxer.

Even Top Rank didn't expect this upset to happen, they just recently signed Caraballo to their promotional company thinking that the guy is a big crowd drawer in the future but the mistake they made was they matched Caraballo with a Filipino boxer. Caraballo's chin was exposed in this fight and i think his future opponent will make this one a target.

@Baofeng, it's a double win for us today bro if you have bet on Zepeda. Not a good night for Puerto Rican boxing fans here tonight but we can expect Vargas and Caraballo to bounce back strong.

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to bet on the Zepeda win, for strange reasons, when I bet on the Jonas Sultan ML, the line on Zepeda wasn't there, or maybe I just have overlooked as I was excited to bet on Sultan a day before the fight (after the weigh-in).

Anyhow, I'll take the win for Sultan, and congrats if you have bet on Zepeda with that knockdown win.

Listen to Mark Magsayo in the Sultan-Caraballo fight - typical of Filipino supporting their own,  Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqqeTRRmQT4

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