Where did all the OG collectors go?

[sweeteye]

What is an OG collector, anyway? I bought a couple dozens of Casascius from Mr. Mike Caldwell himself at end of 2012. Am I an OG? 

Yes :-)

I know of a few. Mostly they have all the coins they want, they will NEVER sell them, and they have enough money now to do whatever the fuck they like. Blazed had what, like 40k coins at one point? He's a billionaire, doing billionaire things I imagine.

Don't know if he is that rich, but I know a lot of collectors that picked up a lot of loaded items early 2020 when BTC was low and are now waiting for the next price drop.
With the next drop being an individual amount for each person.

I actually have just not been 'moved' by any new collectable lately. No idea why, there have been a bunch of "that's cool" but not a lot of "I MUST HAVE THAT"

-Dave

There is this company making these really dope copper knuckles... 

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[MoparMiningLLC]

I was mining in 2010-2011 time period but I was not into any collectibles back then - sadly. I wish I had been.

[OgNasty]

I was mining in 2010-2011 time period but I was not into any collectibles back then - sadly. I wish I had been.

I see a lot of people say this, but had you been into collectibles at the time you may feel differently (probably not but here’s the dumb argument I hear a lot). I’ve seen quite a few people make the argument that buying Casascius coins for ~$20 back then was stupid, because you would have gotten more money had you just kept your BTC. Many people here are dense enough to even consider that a loss. Sure, the $50 I spent for my half a million dollar Casascius coins is one of the best investments of my life, but I’m not lying, there are users here who think that’s an investment loss because BTC has risen more in that time period. Just check out my trust rating from ibminer. With idiots like that in the community who call a half million dollar gain a loss and torment the makers of these products, why would they stick around?

[krogoth]

I was mining in 2010-2011 time period but I was not into any collectibles back then - sadly. I wish I had been.

I see a lot of people say this, but had you been into collectibles at the time you may feel differently (probably not but here’s the dumb argument I hear a lot). I’ve seen quite a few people make the argument that buying Casascius coins for ~$20 back then was stupid, because you would have gotten more money had you just kept your BTC. Many people here are dense enough to even consider that a loss. Sure, the $50 I spent for my half a million dollar Casascius coins is one of the best investments of my life, but I’m not lying, there are users here who think that’s an investment loss because BTC has risen more in that time period. Just check out my trust rating from ibminer. With idiots like that in the community who call a half million dollar gain a loss and torment the makers of these products, why would they stick around?

   I have always had the collectors bug running thru me...starting with stamps as a kid. When I came across bitcoin and then heard of Casascius, it got me into physical bitcoin collectables as well as any early wallets and historical bitcoin items. I dont see ANYTHING bought being a loss, as I allocated a certain amount for pure BTC hodling and certain amount of fiat for rare collectables. So I look at it as getting rid of paper fiat for Bitcoin history that I get to own and hodl in my Citadel  

  

[MoparMiningLLC]

I was mining in 2010-2011 time period but I was not into any collectibles back then - sadly. I wish I had been.

I see a lot of people say this, but had you been into collectibles at the time you may feel differently (probably not but here’s the dumb argument I hear a lot). I’ve seen quite a few people make the argument that buying Casascius coins for ~$20 back then was stupid, because you would have gotten more money had you just kept your BTC. Many people here are dense enough to even consider that a loss. Sure, the $50 I spent for my half a million dollar Casascius coins is one of the best investments of my life, but I’m not lying, there are users here who think that’s an investment loss because BTC has risen more in that time period. Just check out my trust rating from ibminer. With idiots like that in the community who call a half million dollar gain a loss and torment the makers of these products, why would they stick around?

   I have always had the collectors bug running thru me...starting with stamps as a kid. When I came across bitcoin and then heard of Casascius, it got me into physical bitcoin collectables as well as any early wallets and historical bitcoin items. I dont see ANYTHING bought being a loss, as I allocated a certain amount for pure BTC hodling and certain amount of fiat for rare collectables. So I look at it as getting rid of paper fiat for Bitcoin history that I get to own and hodl in my Citadel  

  

agreed - as long as you are using fiat to buy the bitcoin and collectible. when you use 2 btc to buy something that is only worth .5 btc now - that is not good. While the .5 btc now is worth more than the 2 btc was then. It truly would have been better to keep the btc.

but for those that are all in on btc - that can be trickier - burning fiat to get btc or collectibles is a no brainer.

[FFrankie]

Nobody likes to chat anymore or do crazy things

[MoparMiningLLC]

Nobody likes to chat anymore or do crazy things

well then get it started

[cygan]

i have also had the passion for collecting since i was ~8 years young... i started with stamps, which my grandma and grandpa bought me from a philatelist and then i started collecting coins - i still have all the collectibles (stamps as well as coins), but i stopped collecting a long time ago.
i have now started collecting cryto collectibles and lately also crypto artworks

[krogoth]

i have also had the passion for collecting since i was ~8 years young... i started with stamps, which my grandma and grandpa bought me from a philatelist and then i started collecting coins - i still have all the collectibles (stamps as well as coins), but i stopped collecting a long time ago.
i have now started collecting cryto collectibles and lately also crypto artworks

  Yes stamps was a big thing in my time...I went from any type of stamp to then specializing in collecting only inverted center stamp errors of the world.

  Still have and cherish my invert collection alongside my crypto collectables.

[Lesbian Cow]

Nobody likes to chat anymore or do crazy things

#FREEKILLYOU72

[JUPITYR]

Yeah, definitely a lot of new faces around here.  Miss some of the folks I interacted with, though many are still here. 

[wheelz1200]

Miss the smoothie weekly auctions

[dolphriends]

Miss the fun raffles

[OgNasty]

agreed - as long as you are using fiat to buy the bitcoin and collectible. when you use 2 btc to buy something that is only worth .5 btc now - that is not good. While the .5 btc now is worth more than the 2 btc was then. It truly would have been better to keep the btc.

but for those that are all in on btc - that can be trickier - burning fiat to get btc or collectibles is a no brainer.

This is a misunderstanding of how value is accounted for when transferred.  As previously stated, I'm not saying what would have been be better, I'm saying what is.  What you are spending doesn't matter at all.  It's the amount of value that is transferred.  Bitcoin has made a historically horrible way to value anything over time, so when making purchases you use a currency that is used to actually value assets for real life purposes (not how Bitcoiners want them to be valued, how the government you pay taxes to actually values them).  Here on earth, the US Dollar is the reserve currency, so that is the standard currency we human beings use to measure value over time globally.  Whether you spent Bitcoin, dink doinks, gold, or doll hairs, the only thing that matters for your cost basis is the unit of account, and as stated, here on earth that is the US dollar.

Miss the fun raffles

I used to put on a bunch but it seemed like interest in them was steadily declining.  At the time I blamed the fact that transaction fees were rising to the point where some raffle prizes were arguably not worth the transaction fee to enter the raffle.  Fees have come down a lot, so maybe a raffle would be successful now?  Who knows...  I'd be happy to put on a raffle if I thought there would be enough participants, but the idea was getting a bit stale (I think I started the first blockchain-tied raffle here more than 5 years ago).  As I type this I have an idea for a raffle that might be a little more fun and with more than the typical amount or risk.  Maybe I'll give it a try when I get more than a few minutes between projects to spare.

[dolphriends]

agreed - as long as you are using fiat to buy the bitcoin and collectible. when you use 2 btc to buy something that is only worth .5 btc now - that is not good. While the .5 btc now is worth more than the 2 btc was then. It truly would have been better to keep the btc.

but for those that are all in on btc - that can be trickier - burning fiat to get btc or collectibles is a no brainer.

This is a misunderstanding of how value is accounted for when transferred.  As previously stated, I'm not saying what would have been be better, I'm saying what is.  What you are spending doesn't matter at all.  It's the amount of value that is transferred.  Bitcoin has made a historically horrible way to value anything over time, so when making purchases you use a currency that is used to actually value assets for real life purposes (not how Bitcoiners want them to be valued, how the government you pay taxes to actually values them).  Here on earth, the US Dollar is the reserve currency, so that is the standard currency we human beings use to measure value over time globally.  Whether you spent Bitcoin, dink doinks, gold, or doll hairs, the only thing that matters for your cost basis is the unit of account, and as stated, here on earth that is the US dollar.

Miss the fun raffles

I used to put on a bunch but it seemed like interest in them was steadily declining.  At the time I blamed the fact that transaction fees were rising to the point where some raffle prizes were arguably not worth the transaction fee to enter the raffle.  Fees have come down a lot, so maybe a raffle would be successful now?  Who knows...  I'd be happy to put on a raffle if I thought there would be enough participants, but the idea was getting a bit stale.  As I type this I have an idea for a raffle that might be a little more fun and with more than the typical amount or risk.  Maybe I'll give it a try when I get more than a few minutes between projects to spare.

Thanks Og

[MoparMiningLLC]

agreed - as long as you are using fiat to buy the bitcoin and collectible. when you use 2 btc to buy something that is only worth .5 btc now - that is not good. While the .5 btc now is worth more than the 2 btc was then. It truly would have been better to keep the btc.

but for those that are all in on btc - that can be trickier - burning fiat to get btc or collectibles is a no brainer.

This is a misunderstanding of how value is accounted for when transferred.  As previously stated, I'm not saying what would have been be better, I'm saying what is.  What you are spending doesn't matter at all.  It's the amount of value that is transferred.  Bitcoin has made a historically horrible way to value anything over time, so when making purchases you use a currency that is used to actually value assets for real life purposes (not how Bitcoiners want them to be valued, how the government you pay taxes to actually values them).  Here on earth, the US Dollar is the reserve currency, so that is the standard currency we human beings use to measure value over time globally.  Whether you spent Bitcoin, dink doinks, gold, or doll hairs, the only thing that matters for your cost basis is the unit of account, and as stated, here on earth that is the US dollar.

I don't have any misunderstanding on it at all. I understand it fully. I am only saying that if an item loses btc value but gains usd value, then in those cases, it simply would have been better to hodl the btc. Will the person still owe taxes for the increased fiat value? sure. Never said otherwise.

I used to put on a bunch but it seemed like interest in them was steadily declining.  At the time I blamed the fact that transaction fees were rising to the point where some raffle prizes were arguably not worth the transaction fee to enter the raffle.  Fees have come down a lot, so maybe a raffle would be successful now?  Who knows...  I'd be happy to put on a raffle if I thought there would be enough participants, but the idea was getting a bit stale (I think I started the first blockchain-tied raffle here more than 5 years ago).  As I type this I have an idea for a raffle that might be a little more fun and with more than the typical amount or risk.  Maybe I'll give it a try when I get more than a few minutes between projects to spare.

and yes, do some raffles!

[Eclipse33]

Obviously I am a newer face around here, I wasn't around during the golden age of crypto collectables (2011-2014).

Once you join this community and learn how the forum works and functions it suddenly becomes a really fun place to hangout.

I find myself logging in to checkout the latest posts, read some of the drama, look for scammers, check the auctions ect.

The trust and ranking mechanism is on par with one of the greatest metric systems I have ever seen for separation of not so good members from stellar members.

Regular social media (Twitter, Instagram, Facebook ect.) lacks a community of dedicated users and is awash with low quality content. The trust mechanism acts as a genius way of sorting out who is serious and who is just a troll (Twitter, Instagram, Facebook ect.) don't have this mechanism and they suffer with a lack of user engagement and true, robust communities.

When it comes to the economy of the forum, this is an oasis of decentralization. This forum constitutes one of the only places in the whole entirety of the internet where someone can make a living/ decent money selling their artwork or passions for crypto. This forum consists of a very robust and strong community of deeply caring users who not only care about each other but also care about seeing crypto blossom. Nowhere else on the internet can such a wonderful ecosystem of buyers and sellers thrive.

Im really happy to have joined this forum, ive had a great time so far

[wheelz1200]

Obviously I am a newer face around here, I wasn't around during the golden age of crypto collectables (2011-2014).

Once you join this community and learn how the forum works and functions it suddenly becomes a really fun place to hangout.

I find myself logging in to checkout the latest posts, read some of the drama, look for scammers, check the auctions ect.

The trust and ranking mechanism is on par with one of the greatest metric systems I have ever seen for separation of not so good members from stellar members.

Regular social media (Twitter, Instagram, Facebook ect.) lacks a community of dedicated users and is awash with low quality content. The trust mechanism acts as a genius way of sorting out who is serious and who is just a troll (Twitter, Instagram, Facebook ect.) don't have this mechanism and they suffer with a lack of user engagement and true, robust communities.

When it comes to the economy of the forum, this is an oasis of decentralization. This forum constitutes one of the only places in the whole entirety of the internet where someone can make a living/ decent money selling their artwork or passions for crypto. This forum consists of a very robust and strong community of deeply caring users who not only care about each other but also care about seeing crypto blossom. Nowhere else on the internet can such a wonderful ecosystem of buyers and sellers thrive.

Im really happy to have joined this forum, ive had a great time so far

Always glad to see new faces around here. 

What I see as truly unique to bitcointalk is the method and success of transactions using escrow.  If followed escrow on this site has given me nothing but 100% success in all of my transactions here.  Very unique in the fact that not a lot of members know each other irl.  If I had to guess collectibles has theost know irl friendships around.  Met some more legit people in here during meetups than friends I have "irl".

[Eclipse33]

Obviously I am a newer face around here, I wasn't around during the golden age of crypto collectables (2011-2014).

Once you join this community and learn how the forum works and functions it suddenly becomes a really fun place to hangout.

I find myself logging in to checkout the latest posts, read some of the drama, look for scammers, check the auctions ect.

The trust and ranking mechanism is on par with one of the greatest metric systems I have ever seen for separation of not so good members from stellar members.

Regular social media (Twitter, Instagram, Facebook ect.) lacks a community of dedicated users and is awash with low quality content. The trust mechanism acts as a genius way of sorting out who is serious and who is just a troll (Twitter, Instagram, Facebook ect.) don't have this mechanism and they suffer with a lack of user engagement and true, robust communities.

When it comes to the economy of the forum, this is an oasis of decentralization. This forum constitutes one of the only places in the whole entirety of the internet where someone can make a living/ decent money selling their artwork or passions for crypto. This forum consists of a very robust and strong community of deeply caring users who not only care about each other but also care about seeing crypto blossom. Nowhere else on the internet can such a wonderful ecosystem of buyers and sellers thrive.

Im really happy to have joined this forum, ive had a great time so far

Always glad to see new faces around here. 

What I see as truly unique to bitcointalk is the method and success of transactions using escrow.  If followed escrow on this site has given me nothing but 100% success in all of my transactions here.  Very unique in the fact that not a lot of members know each other irl.  If I had to guess collectibles has theost know irl friendships around.  Met some more legit people in here during meetups than friends I have "irl".

The escrow is a great method of making sure both parties are covered in a exchange of goods for BTC. Some other places on the internet that utilize BTC use an automated escrow system. When someone purchases goods in BTC the BTC is retained in a escrow wallet until the goods are received by the buyer and the buyer marks the order (received to order parameters). Once the buyer gives the go-ahead to the automated escrow, the sellers coins are released. If the buyer does not mark the goods as received the funds are generally available after to the buyer after 30 days. I think Eth's smart contract system was a way to get around using a third party escrow, but I haven't actually experienced it being used first hand yet.

[ChiBitCTy]

Nobody likes to chat anymore or do crazy things

Damn't KY Jelly I messaged you like I dunno a month ago or two and you never messaged me back..so I'm trying to chat. We do really need Tman back for the crazy things part..some more KY Jelly/Tman dare challenges was entertaining for all 


I also have had the collectors bug since I was a young kid.  I have been collecting both coins and baseball cards since I was 7-8 years old or so.  I can't ever see myself ever stopping collecting either of those things. For me when I found out that bitcoin had coins I was hooked.  The first bitcoin coin I ever bought was the 1oz copper anonymous mint coins that had a bitcoin symbol on one side and an Anonymous ( the hacker group ) symbol on the other.  I am infatuated with all 3, coins, bitcoin and Anonymous so it was an easy decision to buy a few tubes of those coins.  Then I started searching around on google and eventually came across Casascius coins and Kialaras.  Messaged both Mike and Max and got a response from both.  Max told me about the forum and that's when I signed up and was hooked.

Being a coin collector and bitcoin enthusiast I was in love with this type of collectible instantly. Nearly a life-long collector is why I can't see myself ever being fully done w/this space.  I think maybe that might also answer my question here, or some of it...perhaps many of the early day collectors were not that, collectors..they just were bitcoiners who liked the idea of keeping their coins on a fancy cold storage wallet but were never coin collectors or had the collecting bug like some of us do and that is why they didn't stick around.  Just a theory.