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bitcoindustaddress.com
So I recently decided to make a dust address that would be easily accessible to anyone. I even decided to make the investment of buying the domain name of bitcoindustaddress.com to make it a simple search to get to a bitcoin dust address and diminish of the dust that one may have received.
Hopefully this will pick up traction and will become THE universal bitcoin dust address. I have my doubts though lol.
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September 13, 2021, 04:09:52 AM |
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Perhaps it helps to give a short definition of what a Bitcoin dust is and why it matters. It might help to make people understand the relevance or risk of having a dust in one's wallet and what to make of it or how it could be done away. Perhaps it is also at this point where you introduce your dust address or site and why they are necessary. What specific roles are they to play? Why are they important?
I also don't understand the purpose of you developing this dust address. What is it for and how could we benefit from it? How does it work?
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September 13, 2021, 05:32:40 AM |
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The only issue here is that one cannot send dust transactions without the tx including inputs from that address or other addresses. There are ways around this, but not everyone is aware of this and an attempt to send would likely compromise privacy. Using the lock coin or lock address feature is one of the best alternatives to deal with dust txs.
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September 13, 2021, 05:39:35 AM |
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I don't see anything special here! You just created a vanity address starting with the word "dust" and a website that redirects to blockchain.com explorer. This does not solve anything at all, let alone dust issue that any user may have.
So basically you are asking people for donations!
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September 13, 2021, 06:38:26 AM |
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If someone were to send you their dust, then there wouldn't be any use for you either. A dust of a dust would mean that it would cost even more for you to spend it.
It is more cost efficient to spend the dust to an OP_return. OP_return can be zero value and smaller in size, you would be able to burn most dusts while making it cost efficient. As opposed to increasing the UTXO bloat for no reason.
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September 13, 2021, 06:44:07 AM Merited by LFC_Bitcoin (1) |
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I had some dust in my wallet 4 years ago, today its worth 6000$.
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September 13, 2021, 06:48:31 AM |
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I had some dust in my wallet 4 years ago, today its worth 6000$.
This is interesting because it gives one to think that as the price goes up, what is dust today may be a respectable amount tomorrow, and therefore if one waits instead of trying to solve the dust problem today, one may find that the problem has solved itself.
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I had some dust in my wallet 4 years ago, today its worth 6000$.
This is interesting because it gives one to think that as the price goes up, what is dust today may be a respectable amount tomorrow, and therefore if one waits instead of trying to solve the dust problem today, one may find that the problem has solved itself. One might. But what is exactly the problem in having low ammounts of coin in a wallet adress?Is there a real issue impending from it or just ones OCD.
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September 13, 2021, 06:57:23 AM |
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I had some dust in my wallet 4 years ago, today its worth 6000$.
This is interesting because it gives one to think that as the price goes up, what is dust today may be a respectable amount tomorrow, and therefore if one waits instead of trying to solve the dust problem today, one may find that the problem has solved itself. One might. But what is exactly the problem in having low ammounts of coin in a wallet adress?Is there a real issue impending from it or just ones OCD. The problem is that if you want to spend those low amounts you are going to pay a lot of money in fees. For this it is often worthwhile to consolidate them into an input when the fees are low as explained in the following thread: [Sep 2021] Mempool empty! Use this opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs!
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September 13, 2021, 07:21:43 AM |
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I had some dust in my wallet 4 years ago, today its worth 6000$.
The term "dust" in bitcoin refers to a very small amount of bitcoin that costs more to send considering the minimum transaction fee. It usually is around 500 satoshi although it can change and has changed with the price. $6000 today is 0.1343 BTC which is far from being "dust", not to mention 4 years ago it still was a considerable amount of bitcoin since in 2017 price of it were between $134 to $2680 and nothing in that range can be considered "dust".
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September 13, 2021, 07:25:10 AM |
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I had some dust in my wallet 4 years ago, today its worth 6000$.
This is interesting because it gives one to think that as the price goes up, what is dust today may be a respectable amount tomorrow, and therefore if one waits instead of trying to solve the dust problem today, one may find that the problem has solved itself. One might. But what is exactly the problem in having low ammounts of coin in a wallet adress?Is there a real issue impending from it or just ones OCD. The problem is that if you want to spend those low amounts you are going to pay a lot of money in fees. For this it is often worthwhile to consolidate them into an input when the fees are low as explained in the following thread: [Sep 2021] Mempool empty! Use this opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs!Looks like it's worth receiving dust. A 1000 satoshis today may be worth a lot after 4 years, that sender must have been regretting by now. Looks like a very wasteful way, this wouldn't be a method of choice today. It would be expensive to send the dust to an address too. I would rather be making those hackers who attempt regret when the 1000 sats will be worth spending. But how about tracking them instead, can you provide that service while you are at it receiving dust?
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September 13, 2021, 08:02:35 AM |
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I had some dust in my wallet 4 years ago, today its worth 6000$.
This is interesting because it gives one to think that as the price goes up, what is dust today may be a respectable amount tomorrow, and therefore if one waits instead of trying to solve the dust problem today, one may find that the problem has solved itself. It's also greatly incorrect, as @pooya87 also wrote. This was - by far - not dust, neither counted in Bitcoin, neither counted 4 years ago in US Dollars. Hopefully this will pick up traction and will become THE universal bitcoin dust address.
Are you aware that begging is not allowed in this forum? And if it's not begging, then please tell us how would help me to send you, on my expense, bitcoin dust...
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September 13, 2021, 08:18:16 AM |
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As expected the address has 0 satoshis in it which shows that people have become a more aware of things in the crypto space. I see a bitcoin address which someone says is a dust address but unable to prove if it's actually a dust address. How will we know if you or someone else doesn't hold the private key to this address. What if you have the private key to this address and someday you decide to spend all the coins in this address. I think what ranochigo said makes more sense if you want to spend your coins as dust instead of simply sending it to some random bitcoin address.
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September 13, 2021, 08:21:06 AM |
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I see a bitcoin address which someone says is a dust address but unable to prove if it's actually a dust address. How will we know if you or someone else doesn't hold the private key to this address. What if you have the private key to this address and someday you decide to spend all the coins in this address.
It is a dust address, not a burn address. I think that you've made a confusion. If it would have been a burn address, your question would have been valid. For a dust address, it's expected that he does have the private key for it.
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I even decided to make the investment of buying the domain name That's disappointing to say the least. It's not even a website, only a domain forwarder. What you could (and should) have done, is create your own website that presents the viewer with 3 addresses (1.., 3.. and bc1q..), each generated on the fly and shown only once. That would give each user a unique address to "dispose" of dust, instead of making it very obvious they're using a certain address. If you'd then add the promise to wait anywhere between 1 and 5 years before moving any of the dust inputs, and promise to only use a random selection of inputs each time, you could actually provide a useful service for getting rid of unwanted dust. I've thought about creating such a service myself, but decided it's not worth it as barely anyone would use it. For privacy, it's better to avoid dust. Or burn it. Or add it to an existing transaction from the same address when fees are low. Or freeze the input in your wallet so you never move it. So basically you are asking people for donations! That's another reason one shouldn't offer such a service. what is exactly the problem in having low ammounts of coin in a wallet adress? The problem is that if you want to spend those low amounts you are going to pay a lot of money in fees. When fees were high, I've seen many transactions with inputs that weren't even worth the fee it costs to add them. As long as the Max button in for instance Electrum maximizes the input instead of the output, people keep wasting money on fees to move dust. It is a dust address, not a burn address. I think that you've made a confusion. Here you go 1BURNbitcoinBURNbitcoinBURP3vqZJo
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September 13, 2021, 10:24:00 AM |
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Or freeze the input in your wallet so you never move it.
I think that this is the "best use" for dust. Second best is consolidate, if you know what you're doing. 1BURNbitcoinBURNbitcoinBURP3vqZJo
Impressive! I know that there are available scripts to create proper burn address, I know that all it needs is a string with allowed characters/format and then a checksum, but I've never ran one. And again, your choice of starting string is impressive
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I used ProofOfBurn, it works from the site. And again, your choice of starting string is impressive The last "burp" instead of "burn" was totally a coincidence
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Your suggestion doesn't really solve the problem though. Either I have dust which is too small to send without combining it with another input, in which case I would still have to do that and compromise my privacy to send to this new service, or my dust is large enough to send on its own, in which case I can just do that but send it to a mixer or instant exchanger or something similar. I don't see the use case for a service where I have to send my dust, as I'm either losing my privacy or losing my coins (or both) to use it. I've spoken before about Peter Todd's Dust B Gone proposal, which would do exactly as you are describing but without the requirement to first compromise your privacy by sending him your dust. Unfortunately, the demand for such a service would be too small that the anonymity set of people using it would also be too small to be useful.
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September 13, 2021, 01:49:11 PM |
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I don't see anything special here! You just created a vanity address starting with the word "dust" and a website that redirects to blockchain.com explorer. This does not solve anything at all, let alone dust issue that any user may have.
So basically you are asking people for donations!
I have done away with the private key, I suppose I could make one of those addresses that are 1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx if you know what I mean. Which makes me wonder is there a private key to those addresses? could someone get lucky and unlock those bitcoins?
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