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Modern-day gambling has increased the quest to gain more skills in playing the various gambling games, while some games require skills to play them, others are relatively simple to play and require little or no skills in playing them. As the topic specifies slot and video poker are the most friendly and simple games to play for me but the two have some disparity which I will love us to discuss on this thread. 1 what are the similarities between slot games and video pokers? 2 between slot and video poker which is more technical and requires skills to play? 3 what are your personal experiences with both games?
Slot games is somehow base on luck, the probability of how win from it depends with the house so skills isn't need because you tend to be addicted with it. Unlike with video poker you're going to rely with how the odds will be working, and if you're expert on reading minds towards your opponent then choosing this game is the right choice instead of slot which the house has the advantage. The house will watch the game and the luck will determine the winner and the loss in both slot games and video poker games and the game itself will not depend on the house. Hmm, that will be difficult to read minds towards your opponent as in video poker, we can not see any expression from the opponent so that could be guessing to predict what they will do in the next step. If a gambler does not want to think seriously about the game, they can select a slot game rather than video poker.
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September 20, 2021, 10:00:39 AM |
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If those video poker players have skills, they can try to maximize their chances of winning, but still, both games need luck so they can not have a big expectation to win in a video poker game as they can meet the other player have high skills in poker. If a gambler does not have skills and only depends on his luck, then slots could be the best choice to gamble. I guess each game will have its fan and we do not know how many of those like both games.
Yup, video poker still relies on luck, it's kind of similar to blackjack where no matter how well you know the game you'll eventually get crushed by the house edge. In terms of house edge video poker is one of the lowest ( it ranges between 0.5% to 1%) it so it'll come in handy if you're a gambler who prefer to play low edge games. If I understand correctly, is this parameter configurable and the owner of the slot machine can significantly increase it? I remember how in my country (in wild times) crazy "businessmen" set up a slot machine in such a way that they had a 25-50 percent advantage ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And I had a friend who was doing this in the technical part, so we cannot know exactly what advantage the slot machine has.
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Poker is largely luck based anyhow but the human element allows you to win with nothing at all, if Video poker were to miss out that element of the game its unfortunate because its alot closer to slots again anyhow. The one advantage slots can tout in its favor is that the money is contained in the machine from previous winnings and there is a payout ratio due, however I think the ratio is not per slot but the entire casino game or even people say the game ratio might be shared for a whole operator.
That's how it is with online slots, but I'm not sure how it works with physical ones. Anyway, we are talking about online slots here, right? So no one should expect a big win after a long losing streak. This is a big mistake which makes people to lose a lot of money in some cases. Not always, because you can hit a big win anytime, and it can happen after a long losing streak too. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In my opinion, there are no similarities, each of these games has its own advantages in betting, sometimes this depends on each gambler, of course those who are more familiar with them will take precedence. Regarding skill... I think poker is more dominant with additional skills and uses our brain to think more than slots. But to myself... I prefer to slot games, because I'm more familiar with slots, and it's simpler, just pressing on without thinking more like in poker.
This thread is not about PVP poker, it's about video poker, which is a very different thing.
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September 22, 2021, 06:18:56 AM |
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If those video poker players have skills, they can try to maximize their chances of winning, but still, both games need luck so they can not have a big expectation to win in a video poker game as they can meet the other player have high skills in poker. If a gambler does not have skills and only depends on his luck, then slots could be the best choice to gamble. I guess each game will have its fan and we do not know how many of those like both games.
Yup, video poker still relies on luck, it's kind of similar to blackjack where no matter how well you know the game you'll eventually get crushed by the house edge. In terms of the house edge, video poker is one of the lowest ( it ranges between 0.5% to 1%) it so it'll come in handy if you're a gambler who prefers to play low edge games. If I understand correctly, is this parameter configurable and the owner of the slot machine can significantly increase it? I remember how in my country (in wild times) crazy "businessmen" set up a slot machine in such a way that they had a 25-50 percent advantage ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And I had a friend who was doing this in the technical part, so we cannot know exactly what advantage the slot machine has. Exactly most especially if the system is not a provably fair system verifiable one will be left in the dark the real advantage of the machine 🎰 and just keep losing to the House unknowingly. I wish we have a way to test the probability of a house configuration before playing on their machine.
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September 22, 2021, 06:30:03 AM |
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1 what are the similarities between slot games and video pokers? 2 between slot and video poker which is more technical and requires skills to play? 3 what are your personal experiences with both games?
1. Both are risky, and the house has the advantage here but in Video poker you can still analyze the game while in Slots totally not pure of luck on this game. 2. Obviously Video poker are more technical here and requires skills to increase your chance of winning while again in slots its a game of luck and a system generated where the house has the advantage against you. 3. I do have good experience playing slots since I love playing simple games and just having fund despite of the odds, and honestly I didn't play much on Video poker so I'll go for the slots game here.
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September 22, 2021, 09:43:55 AM |
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This thread is not about PVP poker, it's about video poker, which is a very different thing.
This thread proves that there are still some people who cant differentiate between Video Poker and pvp Poker. Some people still think/understand that Video Poker = Poker (pvp). Perhaps it is due to lack of experiences or lack of knowledge about Video Poker.
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September 22, 2021, 09:55:03 AM |
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If you have a poll for this, you'll get an idea on what gamblers are favoring more, there are in favor of luck based and there are in favor of skill best and there are in favor of both, in my case I prefer luck-based I treated gambling as a luck-based game meant to have fun, skill-based is time-consuming you need to allocate time and exert a lot of effort to analyze.
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September 22, 2021, 09:55:41 AM |
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Obviously you don't know what you're talking about Kittygalore, there is no bluff in video poker. And as Betwrong pointed out above, you don't need any real skill at video poker except knowing what are the stronger card combinations and what are their probabilities to come out. You can do bluffing, what did you think? I didn't think through what I said? Your bets can be seen by other players right? Then that means that you can play some bluff with that, as long as there's way that other players can see some of the things that you do, you can always bluff, checking can be a useful one too.
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September 22, 2021, 06:28:30 PM |
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If money management is a skill then slots still has some judgement in play, I used to vary my stake played and consider myself more likely to win at some times then others so not completely random exactly. Most of the games stack some kind of sequence that can lead to bigger wins so judging when to place a higher bet could be considered part of it. But certainly Poker is the far more involved game and slots is for when you just want to do something fairly simple and/or are distracted while playing listening to music or whatever.
I don’t agree with the general assertion of a none skill gambling game. Even if a game is based on selection or picking a number, there is always a way to skillfully roll the dice. Slot to me can be viewed as a simple game, but again it requires the level of skill to play it.
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September 22, 2021, 06:35:47 PM |
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I have played slots but never really tried video poker yet, But some live poker bets Online, don't know if that counts as Video poker. Slots are just press and results whereas the Poker I played Had multiple inputs on whether to continue to make 2nd bet or in River.
So it's up to the user to decide what they prefer.
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Obviously you don't know what you're talking about Kittygalore, there is no bluff in video poker. And as Betwrong pointed out above, you don't need any real skill at video poker except knowing what are the stronger card combinations and what are their probabilities to come out. You can do bluffing, what did you think? I didn't think through what I said? Your bets can be seen by other players right? Then that means that you can play some bluff with that, as long as there's way that other players can see some of the things that you do, you can always bluff, checking can be a useful one too. Hey dude, it is not about pvp poker but it is about Video Poker. Dont you know that they are different game? Should I give you some images or videos about these two games so you can see the differences? I think you need to search some information first about Video Poker and how it differs to Poker (pvp). Once you know how what is and how Video Poker works, I'm sure you will not say that you can do bluff in Video Poker.
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September 23, 2021, 06:51:04 AM |
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If money management is a skill then slots still has some judgement in play, I used to vary my stake played and consider myself more likely to win at some times then others so not completely random exactly. Most of the games stack some kind of sequence that can lead to bigger wins so judging when to place a higher bet could be considered part of it. But certainly Poker is the far more involved game and slots is for when you just want to do something fairly simple and/or are distracted while playing listening to music or whatever.
I don’t agree with the general assertion of a none skill gambling game. Even if a game is based on selection or picking a number, there is always a way to skillfully roll the dice. Slot to me can be viewed as a simple game, but again it requires the level of skill to play it. But with the easiness of playing slots games, even new people in gambling can play slots without a problem and enjoy their time playing that game. Slots will have their place in their fan and so do with video poker but those games are different and it will depend on each user, whether they will like to play slots or video poker. Maybe in this matter, slots are a type of game that does not have to learn many lessons so many people love to play the game. For people who want to play video poker, you can download the game from your mobile phone. It is available on Google PlayStore with the name Video Poker - Free!
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September 23, 2021, 01:47:46 PM |
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If I understand correctly, is this parameter configurable and the owner of the slot machine can significantly increase it? I remember how in my country (in wild times) crazy "businessmen" set up a slot machine in such a way that they had a 25-50 percent advantage ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And I had a friend who was doing this in the technical part, so we cannot know exactly what advantage the slot machine has. Exactly most especially if the system is not a provably fair system verifiable one will be left in the dark the real advantage of the machine 🎰 and just keep losing to the House unknowingly. I wish we have a way to test the probability of a house configuration before playing on their machine. In my example, I was talking about physical slot machines, there is definitely no provably fair system and you can only hope for the honesty of their owner. As for playing online, most of the casinos use this system, although I am sure that the house edge does not exceed 0.5-1 percent even where this system does not exist. It's just that for an online game, this indicator is actually the standard at which everyone is happy - both the player and the casino.
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September 23, 2021, 03:15:45 PM |
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The house will watch the game and the luck will determine the winner and the loss in both slot games and video poker games and the game itself will not depend on the house. Hmm, that will be difficult to read minds towards your opponent as in video poker, we can not see any expression from the opponent so that could be guessing to predict what they will do in the next step. If a gambler does not want to think seriously about the game, they can select a slot game rather than video poker.
Poker games are often used as an escape to rest the mind from gambling that drains the mind. We are more dominant in feeling entertained if we are given the opportunity to play slots and it can actually make us comfortable for a long time to continue to spend our credit on the slot machine. Until now it has been proven that the large income of the casino house is often obtained from the defeat of players on slot machines. Easy to win also easy to lose faster.
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September 23, 2021, 03:34:26 PM |
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If you have a poll for this, you'll get an idea on what gamblers are favoring more, there are in favor of luck based and there are in favor of skill best and there are in favor of both, in my case I prefer luck-based I treated gambling as a luck-based game meant to have fun, skill-based is time-consuming you need to allocate time and exert a lot of effort to analyze.
I think based on what everyone has mentioned, the general consensus picks on convenience rather than risk. Poker, being a game that relies both on skill and luck is a time-consuming game. A round of poker would last roughly 10-60 minutes depending on your funds. Though you can leave the table anytime, I still think that the process is too complicated for a person who values time. Unlike in slots, you just pull down the lever and hope that the results would favor you.
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September 23, 2021, 09:58:29 PM |
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If you have a poll for this, you'll get an idea on what gamblers are favoring more, there are in favor of luck based and there are in favor of skill best and there are in favor of both, in my case I prefer luck-based I treated gambling as a luck-based game meant to have fun, skill-based is time-consuming you need to allocate time and exert a lot of effort to analyze.
I think based on what everyone has mentioned, the general consensus picks on convenience rather than risk. Poker, being a game that relies both on skill and luck is a time-consuming game. A round of poker would last roughly 10-60 minutes depending on your funds. Though you can leave the table anytime, I still think that the process is too complicated for a person who values time. Unlike in slots, you just pull down the lever and hope that the results would favor you. That's talking about real poker but since we do talk about video poker then I don't see that strategy would be relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQX8otj0gsMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwTu7tmwrIcYou can really tell the difference because it is totally different.
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September 24, 2021, 01:29:36 PM |
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I did a post that dealt with the subject in the context of how a "slot" Video poker remained in time despite the evolution (graphics, sound, effects, bonuses, types) of conventional slots, because video poker falls into the category of Slots, with all this we have a game of words that lead us to the same thing, that regardless of whether it is video poker, its evolution or traditional slots, everything is concentrated in a simple click. A series of clicks, many clicks or the simplicity of the autobet can lead many to decipher things or start looking at the slots like a crystal ball, all this makes them quite entertaining and very playable. In conclusion, the great skill that must be had then is that you must know how to master the size of the bet in each spin or in the thousands of spins that you are going to make so that tomorrow and the day after you can continue playing.
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September 25, 2021, 07:26:23 PM |
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However, poker is a highly skilled game of statistics and probabilities and it takes a life to master even for the pros. Poker on line is not that different in that sense, so my answer would be poker.
And even if you master it still you cannot have guarantee of always winning as you can't always judge the next move of the person sitting on the table and what cards he is having and it involves classification of personal play as well as deceiving the others like bluff and how you can manage it.Poker skills are on the next level and slots are basically luck based like you place bet and hit the bet button and if lucky you win otherwise not so not much planning and strategic movements are involved which is the case with poker players. That's a fact but that is why it was called a strategy game, even if your hand was that weak compare to the other hand/s as long as there's some bluff and other deception techniques. They have disparity especially on how it is played, you may rely on luck sometimes on poker but slots is more onto luck. The two games are fun to play but I think slot is more fun cause it usually base on luck and does not require skill to play it. Once you have luck in playing games I think it can really help to cash out good profits during gambling section. I don't play poker like that so I don't like to play it like the way I play slot which is easy to playing around when less busy.
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September 25, 2021, 10:03:18 PM |
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Video poker machines pay out far more than slot machines, at least if you choose them wisely. Every jurisdiction is different, however most casinos have a slot machine return of less than 94 percent, and most have at least SOME video poker that returns 98 percent or greater.
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September 25, 2021, 11:59:10 PM |
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If you have a poll for this, you'll get an idea on what gamblers are favoring more, there are in favor of luck based and there are in favor of skill best and there are in favor of both, in my case I prefer luck-based I treated gambling as a luck-based game meant to have fun, skill-based is time-consuming you need to allocate time and exert a lot of effort to analyze.
I think based on what everyone has mentioned, the general consensus picks on convenience rather than risk. Poker, being a game that relies both on skill and luck is a time-consuming game. A round of poker would last roughly 10-60 minutes depending on your funds. Though you can leave the table anytime, I still think that the process is too complicated for a person who values time. Unlike in slots, you just pull down the lever and hope that the results would favor you. Video poker doesn't like that. It's different to the actual poker game. It's still like slots but the different is, you will need to make a decision what to hold or throw. The single round will not last for long same as slots. And if you are lucky, you will hit quick win, same also for slots. Just complicated to others because you can't see video poker much around unlike slots where you can see it mostly obviously on all casino sites.
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