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September 26, 2021, 04:05:35 AM
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Video poker machines pay out far more than slot machines, at least if you choose them wisely. Every jurisdiction is different, however most casinos have a slot machine return of less than 94 percent, and most have at least SOME video poker that returns 98 percent or greater.
However, video poker is kind of hard for novices to understand and can not be said to be user-friendly as its interfaces require some level of technicalities but slot is the first choice for most beginners as one doesn’t need to develop any skills before you can play slot.
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September 26, 2021, 06:49:40 AM
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However, video poker is kind of hard for novices to understand and can not be said to be user-friendly as its interfaces require some level of technicalities but slot is the first choice for most beginners as one doesn’t need to develop any skills before you can play slot.
I don't think it's that difficult to learn the game, it depends on the gambler preference as long as he/she is willing to learn the basics of a game it should only take a few minutes or so to get used to the rules.

I used to think poker was difficult but after playing a couple of rounds it eventually became a good learning experience. In terms of difficulty i'd say it's close to blackjack since it also relies on decision making.

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September 26, 2021, 10:14:40 AM
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Video poker machines pay out far more than slot machines, at least if you choose them wisely. Every jurisdiction is different, however most casinos have a slot machine return of less than 94 percent, and most have at least SOME video poker that returns 98 percent or greater.
However, video poker is kind of hard for novices to understand and can not be said to be user-friendly as its interfaces require some level of technicalities but slot is the first choice for most beginners as one doesn’t need to develop any skills before you can play slot.
At least, they can learn from many sources before they decide to play video poker. Maybe after those novices understand how to play, they will find that video poker is more excited than slot games. After all, both games have the same difficulty to win, especially if we meet a good opponent who can play better than us in a video poker game. But I agree that slot is doesn't need to have skills compared to video poker, so beginners will play the easiest gambling games before playing the other gambling games.

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September 27, 2021, 07:42:25 AM
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This thread is not about PVP poker, it's about video poker, which is a very different thing.

This thread proves that there are still some people who cant differentiate between Video Poker and pvp Poker. Some people still think/understand that Video Poker = Poker (pvp). Perhaps it is due to lack of experiences or lack of knowledge about Video Poker.

Yes, I've noticed it too. Although it is not necessarily play the games to know how they work, it's still preferable to do, nevertheless. I encourage anyone, who don't know the difference to spend 1-2 hours of their spare time on playing these games. After that, it wouldn't be so hard to see the difference: Video Poker is very much like slot games, and pvp poker is very different.

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September 27, 2021, 01:03:34 PM
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This thread is not about PVP poker, it's about video poker, which is a very different thing.
This thread proves that there are still some people who cant differentiate between Video Poker and pvp Poker. Some people still think/understand that Video Poker = Poker (pvp). Perhaps it is due to lack of experiences or lack of knowledge about Video Poker.
Yes, I've noticed it too. Although it is not necessarily play the games to know how they work, it's still preferable to do, nevertheless. I encourage anyone, who don't know the difference to spend 1-2 hours of their spare time on playing these games. After that, it wouldn't be so hard to see the difference: Video Poker is very much like slot games, and pvp poker is very different.
Well, I can't blame them since I was one of them till Nov 2019. Thanks to MintDice boss who gave the correct answer.

How about the kind of "poker" that is similar to slots? I don't know what it called though...

The game was like pull the lever, and you receive five random cards. If the player gets a pair, triple, four a kind, flush, etc., he will get x payouts, just like slot games.

Maybe this way you could attract both slots and poker enthusiast.

This is called Video Poker. This is a fundamentally completely different game than what we have been talking about, but yes, this game could in theory be put onto a website and be made provably fair with relatively little difficulty. However, we have no intention to add this game to our website at any point on our roadmap, yet.


Yep, it's similar, but still I don't consider myself as a self-proclaimed video poker expert because it's more difficult. You have to think which cards to keep and which to redraw. There's guilt when you made the wrong decision, unlike slots when I barely feel any guilt even if I lose.

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September 27, 2021, 11:58:05 PM
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Obviously you don't know what you're talking about Kittygalore, there is no bluff in video poker. And as Betwrong pointed out above, you don't need any real skill at video poker except knowing what are the stronger card combinations and what are their probabilities to come out.
You can do bluffing, what did you think? I didn't think through what I said? Your bets can be seen by other players right? Then that means that you can play some bluff with that, as long as there's way that other players can see some of the things that you do, you can always bluff, checking can be a useful one too.
lol you obviously don't know what you're talking about Kittygalore. Please, watch the video posted above by dunfida or try this game in demo mode onto an online casino like the one of the video(ie Stake) if you've never played at this game in a physical or online casino before.
No, your bets can't be seen by other players because there is not any other player in this game.

This proves out that there are users which do really make out comments or post which is totally out of the topic and just simply understanding the topic title without having an
actual experience about the game which make them look dumb.

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September 28, 2021, 01:29:02 PM
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If you're good with poker, it's easy to win since it's against other players, on the other hand though, even if you've played long enough with slots, you're still at the mercy of the odds and the machine, no matter how good you are with pulling those levers, you're up against the house and the house always wins.

This would be the case if the percentage of newcomers was always high, but this has not been the case for a long time (more than 5 years). Now the main audience of poker rooms is professional players whose skill is approximately equal and on average in fights with them you will receive zero profit, while the casino continues to take rake, which means that the game will be unprofitable.

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September 28, 2021, 01:34:35 PM
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Even if you are playing against other players, it does not mean that it will be easy to win.
Well, compare it to winning in slots, it's definitely much easier to win since poker is leaning towards being skill based rather than chance based which the slots are leaning more into.

You can say it is easy to win if you are skillful and you play against newbies, but if you play against players that has better skill and has more experience than you, it wont be easy for you.
But lets back on topic, we are not talking about playing poker against other players as we are talking about video poker.
So what do you think between VIDEO poker vs slot, which one do you think is easier to get win?

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September 28, 2021, 01:54:43 PM
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Even if you are playing against other players, it does not mean that it will be easy to win.
Well, compare it to winning in slots, it's definitely much easier to win since poker is leaning towards being skill based rather than chance based which the slots are leaning more into.
Dude, there are many types of poker:
- Live Casino such as Casino Hold'em or similar by evolution et al. You play against the house.
- P2P Poker where you play against other players (but still there's a fee to the house).
- Video Poker where you play against the house.

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September 28, 2021, 02:05:37 PM
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However, video poker is kind of hard for novices to understand and can not be said to be user-friendly as its interfaces require some level of technicalities but slot is the first choice for most beginners as one doesn’t need to develop any skills before you can play slot.
I don't think it's that difficult to learn the game, it depends on the gambler preference as long as he/she is willing to learn the basics of a game it should only take a few minutes or so to get used to the rules.

I used to think poker was difficult but after playing a couple of rounds it eventually became a good learning experience. In terms of difficulty i'd say it's close to blackjack since it also relies on decision making.

First, you need to specify the poker game.
Poker is a generic term for several games, some easier than others.
A slot game can also look easy, but depending on the game there are also several variables and combinations involved that can also cause confusion in the gamer's mind. It's complicated to generalize that way.
As for video poker, the subject of the OP, I confess that I played very little. I don't like playing against the house, I prefer PvP.

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September 28, 2021, 09:47:01 PM
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Even if you are playing against other players, it does not mean that it will be easy to win.
Well, compare it to winning in slots, it's definitely much easier to win since poker is leaning towards being skill based rather than chance based which the slots are leaning more into.

Yeah. My experience is that if you are looking for actual long term profits, slots is the worst game to play.

Why? Because RTP is the lowest out of all games.

The game developers have to be paid one way or another and how do they usually do that? It's through huge house edges that are many times of blackjack or dice. And there is no "strategy" that you can follow to maximise returns either. Video poker is the way to go for this.

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Slots, whether played for fun or to make money, are arguably the simplest gambling option out there. It requires no strategy, no skills, and no time to practice. In essence, slots are simply a form of gambling, and they're generally easy and cheap ways to pass the time. This game is relatively easy to play, so it is one of the most popular gambling games in the world.

But to be fair, it’s not easy to win at slots. The odds are simply against you. And while you can sometimes win with very small bets, those wins are few and far between. So if your main goal is to make real money at gambling, you're probably better off at blackjack or poker, or any other casino game that requires skill and strategy.


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September 28, 2021, 10:37:18 PM
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Even if you are playing against other players, it does not mean that it will be easy to win.
Well, compare it to winning in slots, it's definitely much easier to win since poker is leaning towards being skill based rather than chance based which the slots are leaning more into.

Yeah. My experience is that if you are looking for actual long term profits, slots is the worst game to play.

Why? Because RTP is the lowest out of all games.

The game developers have to be paid one way or another and how do they usually do that? It's through huge house edges that are many times of blackjack or dice. And there is no "strategy" that you can follow to maximise returns either. Video poker is the way to go for this.
I cant see any differences with that Video poker because it isnt really actually poker but somewhat having that same vibe of slots.I agree that when it comes to odds or house edge then slots is on the top list.

Rewards and prizes might really be big but those are just good for some boost of interest which will result into playing and of course that means more profit or revenue into its owners.

Players are always be on disadvantage most of the time but if you are lucky enough then you could really make some decent profits or wins.

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Blackjack and Poker are still mostly luck and require alot more attention not to make your luck worse, at least slots is consistent and easy to play.   Depends what you want, in both cases you want to play through the actual game first before going into bigger betting dont get greedy make sure you have an actual plan to proceed with.
   Someone said you cant walk away from slots a winner, which is so wrong you definitely can just make sure you dont wear out any good luck you do have.   Be reasonable and you walk away with a profit, I know because I've done that more then once but overall it is just a game and of course it has a cost to play.

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I believe the slot to be based on luck and does require players to get any skill to play it but on the second thought, it doesn't mean that players will not have to apply some form of skills or experience if the chances present themselves, after all, it all about the winning 🏅 .

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Hey dude, it is not about pvp poker but it is about Video Poker. Dont you know that they are different game? Should I give you some images or videos about these two games so you can see the differences? I think you need to search some information first about Video Poker and how it differs to Poker (pvp). Once you know how what is and how Video Poker works, I'm sure you will not say that you can do bluff in Video Poker.
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~ You have to think which cards to keep and which to redraw. There's guilt when you made the wrong decision, unlike slots when I barely feel any guilt even if I lose.

Man, I can assure you that there's nothing you can do to improve your performance in Video Poker. So, you can stop blaming yourself for a "wrong decision". Smiley

For example, while playing "Jacks or better" you see these cards at start



you decide to hold 55 because this is the right move in terms of probability.



and then, say, you get another pair after the draw, and you win a bit, 2x payout, but you could also choose holding 458 of Spades, and then get 67 of Spades and win 75x with a Straight Flush. And what's going to happen is absolutely unpredictable.

Feeling a guilt would be the same as to blame yourself for not choosing to play with 5 lines here:


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Or you can hold all the spades and hope to win a regular Flush
Or you can hold 4,5,7,8 and hope to get a 6 Cheesy
See, at least there are four scenarios: straight flush, flush, straight, and two pairs.
You can win or lose depend on your decision, it means you can make poor decisions -> guilt, as if you lose because of you, not the system/luck.

Ordinary slots don't have this expand payline, gamble feature, lock reels, etc. The only guilt was why didn't I increase/decrease the bet.


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September 29, 2021, 01:24:32 PM
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And what's going to happen is absolutely unpredictable.
That's exactly why we talk about probabilities Smiley Some hands are just in some situations much more likely than others, but that is of course no guarantee that the cards are actually drawn so. Otherwise, probably no one would play the lottery, even there it is purely from the probability almost impossible that you win.

Poker is certainly one of the games in a casino that depends least on luck, closely followed by other card games such as blackjack.


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I have played a good bit between both slot machines and video poker.  Personally I learned poker during the great "texas holdem rush" during the early/mid 2000's and absolutely still love playing real, sit down in person poker, so playing on a machine is not that fun for me.  However playing slots is fun because it often take absolutely zero skill, kind of like scratching a lotto ticket..so I enjoy both at different times.

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