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October 02, 2021, 08:54:26 AM
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The similarities between these two games are that you have absolutely no control over the outcome. Every play is statistically and mathematically designed to extract money from players for the benefit of the house. They will let you win 2 games and then you will lose 3. They know that repeated players of this type of game will keep on feeding money back into the system because they get a rush from the wins and they conveniently forget all the losses. Any "technical" aspect to these games is purely an illusion, adding extra features into the game lets the player feel like they have a degree of influence over the outcome and disrupts the play enough that they keep trying to unlock things like mini/side games.

Gambling sites have no control over there. It's just that the house was adjusted in favor of the gambling sites. They have nothing to do with winning at early games. It's just coincidental to others. We all know in the long run that we can never beat a house be it on slots or video poker.

Once win good, get out if can and come back the other day. Unless these gamblers want to test the house for long, then just goodluck.

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October 02, 2021, 09:20:39 AM
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Video porker is base on you against the House and if you find yourself in that situation then you will have to base your luck on the level of the probably fair system of the house you are up against. But slot as a game of numbers can easily be won with luck on your side.

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October 02, 2021, 01:45:18 PM
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Video porker is base on you against the House and if you find yourself in that situation then you will have to base your luck on the level of the probably fair system of the house you are up against. But slot as a game of numbers can easily be won with luck on your side.
I wont believe that you could easily win on slots but of course both things do really require luck for you to win big and knowing that you are against with the house then as a player then you would
always have the disadvantage thats why dont expect that you could really take out advantage whatever kind of analysis and strategies you do have in mind.Play for entertainment and dont
focus much on making money.Both games are in different system but really the same on how luck works and significant on these type of games.

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October 02, 2021, 05:12:57 PM
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Again, you are the other users who can differentiate between poker and videopoker. You cant take any advantage of your opponent's weaknesses in video poker as your opponent is the house. What you can do in video poker is to increase your winning chance by choosing the best cards to hold. Video poker is a solo game, it does not require more than 1 player to play as it is a game where you play against the house.
But the topic here is not the poker you are referring to. It's video poker and to give you a view of what is it, look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_poker

The usual poker games are against the real players. On this video poker, you are against the house and everything is automated. I just don't know how's the house edge or something like RTP here compares to other luck-based games.
Sorry, I have to admit it was something wrong on my part as I am not familiar with video poker. Thank you for explaining it.

So if that's the case then I'm just assuming that there is no difference at all between the two games as players rely solely on luck when against the house or the system. It will end the same as a game based on luck because the system will set the pattern of the game. So again, sorry for all my misunderstanding above.

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October 02, 2021, 05:37:39 PM
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The similarities between these two games are that you have no control over the outcome. Every play is statistically and mathematically designed to extract money from players for the benefit of the house. They will let you win 2 games and then you will lose 3. They know that repeated players of this type of game will keep on feeding money back into the system because they get a rush from the wins and they conveniently forget all the losses. Any "technical" aspect to these games is purely an illusion, adding extra features into the game lets the player feel like they have a degree of influence over the outcome and disrupts the play enough that they keep trying to unlock things like mini/side games.

Gambling sites have no control over there. It's just that the house was adjusted in favor of the gambling sites. They have nothing to do with winning at early games. It's just coincidental to others. We all know in the long run that we can never beat a house be it on slots or video poker.

Once win good, get out if can and come back the other day. Unless these gamblers want to test the house for long, then just good luck.
So who then is the house is ít not the site owners that are the House the machine are just the instrument they can set it to whatever way they want, what we should be looking out for is how fair is the house because most of them promise to have a probably fair system meanwhile slot games outcome are in favor of the house leaving the player with lose.

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October 02, 2021, 07:31:29 PM
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I wont believe that you could easily win on slots but of course both things do really require luck for you to win big and knowing that you are against with the house then as a player then you would
always have the disadvantage thats why dont expect that you could really take out advantage whatever kind of analysis and strategies you do have in mind.Play for entertainment and dont
focus much on making money.Both games are in different system but really the same on how luck works and significant on these type of games.
The chances of winning in these 2 will just be based on how lucky we ca be tha day. While it is better to have knowledge and experience on how this slot and video poker works sometimes it will not help to have a skils to win these games , i usually believe that winning in these games requires a cycle or certain perio to when will the time to win will be based on house program and your lucky if your the one playing when that tom hits.

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October 02, 2021, 07:45:18 PM
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Video porker is base on you against the House and if you find yourself in that situation then you will have to base your luck on the level of the probably fair system of the house you are up against. But slot as a game of numbers can easily be won with luck on your side.
^ I had to say video poker has a chance that you can increase your chances of winning even though they are the same in a slot that you will against the house edge. But on a slot game, it is pure luck that you can never know what will be the result and there is nothing you can do is to wait when it will generate a number for the provably fair. But for me, it does not matter if it is video poker or slot game, as long as I am well entertained, then I should go either two of them.
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October 02, 2021, 08:17:24 PM
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1. There are no similarities between poker and slots. Except one: it's both gambling games.
All other things are different: one it's pure luck based game and the second one is skill based (with some influence of luck, but not on the long distance). One is solo game and the other is require more than one player to play.

1.  You have to learn and improve your skills all the time and take advantage of your opponent's weaknesses in poker but when you want to fight the slot machines then you just have to press the lever and wait for your luck.

Again, you are the other users who can differentiate between poker and videopoker. You cant take any advantage of your opponent's weaknesses in video poker as your opponent is the house. What you can do in video poker is to increase your winning chance by choosing the best cards to hold. Video poker is a solo game, it does not require more than 1 player to play as it is a game where you play against the house.
But I suppose that even if you play perfectly video poker still has a negative EV right? If you play traditional poker then your EV can be negative as well, as it is the case for the majority of the players, but if you have enough skill and you find the right table then your EV can turn positive, also one of the great things about poker is the camaraderie and the conversations that you can have at the table, something that video poker obviously cannot emulate.



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October 02, 2021, 10:28:46 PM
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I wouldn't make a comparison between a slot game and a poker video game. While implementing strategies is the most challenging aspect of any game, I believe you have a greater chance in porker videos than in slots games, where your outcomes is determined by the house  that are constantly determined by what is displayed on your screen.
According to reviews and experienced users, poker games have a 0.9 to 1 winning chance, whereas slot games have a 0.5 win and 0.5 loss, which is why the jackpots associated with slot games are very large with a low winning rate, whereas poker games are only a few x away from your wager. The riskier the game, the greater the reward.
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Or you can hold all the spades and hope to win a regular Flush
Or you can hold 4,5,7,8 and hope to get a 6 Cheesy
See, at least there are four scenarios: straight flush, flush, straight, and two pairs.
You can win or lose depend on your decision, it means you can make poor decisions -> guilt, as if you lose because of you, not the system/luck.

Not on your decision, but on luck only. In pvp poker you can study a particular player's way of playing, and then scare them with a large bet, and win the pot, while having nothing good, or you can apply other tactics to affect the outcome. In video poker you can't do that. The house you are playing against, isn't analyzing the way you play. It's not like you are playing against an AI, rather it's like with slots where, contrary to the beliefs of some gamblers, your game isn't analyzed either.

Ordinary slots don't have this expand payline, gamble feature, lock reels, etc. The only guilt was why didn't I increase/decrease the bet.

Exactly. But it's like after seeing the winning numbers in lottery to regret about not picking them. Smiley

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I wouldn't make a comparison between a slot game and a poker video game. While implementing strategies is the most challenging aspect of any game, I believe you have a greater chance in porker videos than in slots games, where your outcomes is determined by the house  that are constantly determined by what is displayed on your screen.
According to reviews and experienced users, poker games have a 0.9 to 1 winning chance, whereas slot games have a 0.5 win and 0.5 loss, which is why the jackpots associated with slot games are very large with a low winning rate, whereas poker games are only a few x away from your wager. The riskier the game, the greater the reward.
I agree that the riskier the game, the greater the reward. If someone can not afford the risk, they do not have to take it and use bigger money instead of using little money. No matter what gambling game you play, you should think about the risk of losing money. But I guess it is not easy to compare slot games and poker video games because every gambler will have their own favorite gambling games. I am not sure about the probability of winning on both games but I only know about the risk for both games. So make sure you are ready for the risk before you choose the game.

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October 04, 2021, 07:56:29 PM
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I wouldn't make a comparison between a slot game and a poker video game. While implementing strategies is the most challenging aspect of any game, I believe you have a greater chance in porker videos than in slots games, where your outcomes is determined by the house  that are constantly determined by what is displayed on your screen.
According to reviews and experienced users, poker games have a 0.9 to 1 winning chance, whereas slot games have a 0.5 win and 0.5 loss, which is why the jackpots associated with slot games are very large with a low winning rate, whereas poker games are only a few x away from your wager. The riskier the game, the greater the reward.
I agree that the riskier the game, the greater the reward. If someone can not afford the risk, they do not have to take it and use bigger money instead of using little money. No matter what gambling game you play, you should think about the risk of losing money. But I guess it is not easy to compare slot games and poker video games because every gambler will have their own favorite gambling games. I am not sure about the probability of winning on both games but I only know about the risk for both games. So make sure you are ready for the risk before you choose the game.
Yeah, high-risk high reward, If you are afraid to risk then I guess you don't deserve high rewards since most of the gambling games are built like that. No one can win without exerting effort on gambling but if so, I think it's because of 100% luck. Both games have risks but I can tell that Poker can predict the probability of winning, you can avoid the loss without risking anything. Always expect the worst outcome because it is not always a win-win situation in both gambling games.
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Yeah, high-risk high reward, If you are afraid to risk then I guess you don't deserve high rewards since most of the gambling games are built like that. No one can win without exerting effort on gambling but if so, I think it's because of 100% luck. Both games have risks but I can tell that Poker can predict the probability of winning, you can avoid the loss without risking anything. Always expect the worst outcome because it is not always a win-win situation in both gambling games.
Well perhaps the based on luck games is no chance that you can increase your chances of winning but I think it is different with video poker. If you have knowledge of how to play poker perhaps there will be a chance that you can defeat the house edge --not like a slot game, it is based on the provably fair result or in the random generator numbers result or [RGN]. But that is right, in gambling, there is no win-win situation and you cant able have a long winning streak, gambling was designed that 25% only your chances of winning, and the longer time you spent the more that you will lose. That is why gambling is just only for fun.









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October 04, 2021, 08:19:00 PM
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Blackjack and Poker are still mostly luck and require alot more attention not to make your luck worse, at least slots is consistent and easy to play.   Depends what you want, in both cases you want to play through the actual game first before going into bigger betting dont get greedy make sure you have an actual plan to proceed with.
   Someone said you cant walk away from slots a winner, which is so wrong you definitely can just make sure you dont wear out any good luck you do have.   Be reasonable and you walk away with a profit, I know because I've done that more then once but overall it is just a game and of course it has a cost to play.
Your post shows another time that you are posting without reading the posts of the other users, and you are just spamming. Prestongold doesn't talk about PVP Poker here but about VIDEO Poker. This game has nothing to do with pvp poker, only noobs at gambling and people posting without reading threads make this mistake.

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October 04, 2021, 08:50:47 PM
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Slot games and video poker both definitely have some differences and I think each has its advantages. Slot games refer more to luck while video poker we have to really think about it well and carefully in order to get the desired results. That doesn't mean that slot games don't require thinking, both must be thought out carefully, it's just that the skill level and strategy are different. Both have their advantages and if you are someone who likes a challenge then video poker is the thing that can be joined.
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October 04, 2021, 09:24:00 PM
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Blackjack and Poker are still mostly luck and require alot more attention not to make your luck worse, at least slots is consistent and easy to play.   Depends what you want, in both cases you want to play through the actual game first before going into bigger betting dont get greedy make sure you have an actual plan to proceed with.
   Someone said you cant walk away from slots a winner, which is so wrong you definitely can just make sure you dont wear out any good luck you do have.   Be reasonable and you walk away with a profit, I know because I've done that more then once but overall it is just a game and of course it has a cost to play.
Your post shows another time that you are posting without reading the posts of the other users, and you are just spamming. Prestongold doesn't talk about PVP Poker here but about VIDEO Poker. This game has nothing to do with pvp poker, only noobs at gambling and people posting without reading threads make this mistake.
Its seems people does have misunderstood on between Poker and Video Poker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_poker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLYQ3ZIowPA

At least they do have the idea on what it is and wont be saying bullshit things.

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Blackjack and Poker are still mostly luck and require alot more attention not to make your luck worse, at least slots is consistent and easy to play.   Depends what you want, in both cases you want to play through the actual game first before going into bigger betting dont get greedy make sure you have an actual plan to proceed with.
   Someone said you cant walk away from slots a winner, which is so wrong you definitely can just make sure you dont wear out any good luck you do have.   Be reasonable and you walk away with a profit, I know because I've done that more then once but overall it is just a game and of course it has a cost to play.
Your post shows another time that you are posting without reading the posts of the other users, and you are just spamming. Prestongold doesn't talk about PVP Poker here but about VIDEO Poker. This game has nothing to do with pvp poker, only noobs at gambling and people posting without reading threads make this mistake.
Its seems people does have misunderstood on between Poker and Video Poker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_poker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLYQ3ZIowPA

At least they do have the idea on what it is and wont be saying bullshit things.
Yes thank you for posting it but unfortunately I don't think spammers and shitposters like this guy will open your links or even notice your post. That's sad but even after 9 pages, shitposters will still come to talk about pvp poker. Prestongold should change his OP if he wants to avoid that.

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Video poker needs skills but slot is like a chance based. I have not yet tried any of these but have heard from people say that video poker is played in add and requires skill than a chance. Pokers are either played physically in hands or on videos but whereas, the slots are placed on a programmed machine. When its programmed, then the robo function will lead the game instead of the player.

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October 04, 2021, 11:51:39 PM
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Video poker needs skills but slot is like a chance based. I have not yet tried any of these but have heard from people say that video poker is played in add and requires skill than a chance. Pokers are either played physically in hands or on videos but whereas, the slots are placed on a programmed machine. When its programmed, then the robo function will lead the game instead of the player.

Just read the post above yours. It's not the poker game that played physically in hands. I even put a link just few page to clarify others that it's not the usual poker we know where there's a table, a dealer and set of players playing with each other.

A user here pointed out that video poker doesn't need any skills.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5359641.msg58053899#msg58053899

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October 05, 2021, 06:20:31 AM
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Video poker needs skills but slot is like a chance based. I have not yet tried any of these but have heard from people say that video poker is played in add and requires skill than a chance. Pokers are either played physically in hands or on videos but whereas, the slots are placed on a programmed machine. When its programmed, then the robo function will lead the game instead of the player.

Video poker is almost like slots in the way that they are programmable also,you can't try your skills on a programmed machine as in the end video poker is the same.When you play physically or against other people in tournaments there is where skill does matter but you have to be careful of people using multi accounts to play poker in the same tournament as you,they are playing with more than one pair of cards.Thankfully to great anti cheat protection from reputable casinos this almost never happens.

As for the slot there is pure luck when you play them,however some slots have different patterns of game play than others,some of them will have higher hit frequency,some higher or lower RTP and some big jackpots.In the long term you will lose money in slots as they are programmed like this.

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