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September 20, 2021, 10:17:19 PM
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However, you shouldn't go in reading these things with the expectation that you are actually going to make money off card counting/advantage play in general.

That should be. Books are just for guides but the actual gameplay will still be based on our own moves and actions.

Not really.

I think that books can teach you how to act, and you can carry it out, but at the end of the day it can still be an unprofitable venture given the fact that card counting generally takes years of practice to perfect and takes a lot of time to go to all these physical casinos.

Plus, you'd be paying thousands in books/courses if you were serious about it.

I don't know on what part you have disagreed but you just repeat the same thought that I posted.

Mine: Books are just for guides but the actual gameplay will still be based on our own moves and actions.

You: I think that books can teach you how to act, and you can carry it out, but at the end of the day it can still be an unprofitable venture given the fact that card counting generally takes years of practice to perfect and takes a lot of time to go to all these physical casinos.

Please tell me the difference?
Books are really just good for theory but not really that a thing where you can really rely on but it is good to know the basics and other terms and stuffs because everything will really be on pure experience.
You do know the terms or theory but if you do lack experience or actual engagement then it would really be just the same. Books are good but wont really be enough if it wouldnt really be tied up
with real experience.Lots of resources are available online and its up to you on what you would take.,

It's obvious that Books are for guides and tips. It's like reading other sources as a guide and reference. The test and challenges now are, how to applied all the knowledge we gained from that books or any other sources and applied literally to the game.

There are also instances where we are ended up in a situation that's not mentioned or written on the source we read at. That's the time experience matters so even losing during the early period, just continue as mistakes is the best foundation on building an experience.
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September 21, 2021, 10:10:28 AM
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My father loved to gamble, and was a big Blackjack player.  He was an incredibly smart guy, and always did his homework before ever doing anything at all.  That was no different when it came to gambling.  I remember seeing him read several Blackjack books, which was his favorite game to play.  Do you guys own any good gambling books or know of any website where you can learn skills to play certain games like Blackjack, Poker etc?
Long time ago I read the classic book Beat the Dealer by Edward Thorp, anyone that is serious about playing blackjack professionally must read the book because as far as I know it was the first time blackjack has been beaten as a game, unfortunately casinos now know about the strategy and they have developed several techniques to protect themselves, but even then there are a few professional teams out there that can beat them despite those changes, so if you have not read the book I seriously recommended it.
You might able to read up those things but wont really be enough for you to make yourself better in blackjack.There's no such thing about those holy grail methods.

I don't recommend any books or websites and it would really rather see or watch videos on YouTube in regards on learning up some gambling games which is out of my awareness or knowledge.

Everything can be searched up if you are really that eager on learning up those things since internet does provide out everything in terms of informations.
Somehow, I agree with this suggestion. If he can search from the internet, especially on Youtube, he can get many good lessons to learn poker, blackjack, etc and he does not need to buy a book anymore. The internet will have unlimited sources if we want to search for and have the patience to find the right book that can help us to improve our skills. If that is about resources, the internet is the best place to find it and you do not have to pay anything except your connection to the internet.

Besides that, I think many books will have a basic lesson for that card games but if you can get more lessons from the internet, your skills will improve and you can learn more techniques to win.

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September 22, 2021, 05:38:23 AM
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BlackJack is a game I love and despite being simple, it really requires a lot of skill and reasoning to be among the best players and get good rewards.
One of the books I recommend to read, and which you can find for free, is Martin J Silverthorne's "Nine-Count Blackjack Strategy".

I highly recommend reading to anyone who likes it...

http://www.silverthornepublications.net/Nine-CountBJ/dnNCBJ71010RlfFrMon/Nine-CountBlackjackManual.pdf
I would always like to improve my Blackjack skills.
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September 22, 2021, 09:05:57 AM
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My father loved to gamble, and was a big Blackjack player.  He was an incredibly smart guy, and always did his homework before ever doing anything at all.  That was no different when it came to gambling.  I remember seeing him read several Blackjack books, which was his favorite game to play.  Do you guys own any good gambling books or know of any website where you can learn skills to play certain games like Blackjack, Poker etc?
Long time ago I read the classic book Beat the Dealer by Edward Thorp, anyone that is serious about playing blackjack professionally must read the book because as far as I know it was the first time blackjack has been beaten as a game, unfortunately casinos now know about the strategy and they have developed several techniques to protect themselves, but even then there are a few professional teams out there that can beat them despite those changes, so if you have not read the book I seriously recommended it.
You might able to read up those things but wont really be enough for you to make yourself better in blackjack.There's no such thing about those holy grail methods.

I don't recommend any books or websites and it would really rather see or watch videos on YouTube in regards on learning up some gambling games which is out of my awareness or knowledge.

Everything can be searched up if you are really that eager on learning up those things since internet does provide out everything in terms of informations.
Somehow, I agree with this suggestion. If he can search from the internet, especially on Youtube, he can get many good lessons to learn poker, blackjack, etc and he does not need to buy a book anymore. The internet will have unlimited sources if we want to search for and have the patience to find the right book that can help us to improve our skills. If that is about resources, the internet is the best place to find it and you do not have to pay anything except your connection to the internet.

Besides that, I think many books will have a basic lesson for that card games but if you can get more lessons from the internet, your skills will improve and you can learn more techniques to win.

YouTube is a very good source of educational materials for all areas of human endeavor.  In particular, there are a lot of poker and blackjack training videos.  I really appreciate YouTube as a source of valuable information. 

However, in my opinion, it cannot replace books.  Especially paper books.  The basics of playing blackjack and poker can be learned by watching videos.  Paper books involve thoughtful study.  I read them at night (before bed).  In a dream, the main processing of information occurs.  I can read one book for more than six months. 

And each reading opens up new facets of the game of poker or blackjack for me.

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September 22, 2021, 08:47:00 PM
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My father loved to gamble, and was a big Blackjack player.  He was an incredibly smart guy, and always did his homework before ever doing anything at all.  That was no different when it came to gambling.  I remember seeing him read several Blackjack books, which was his favorite game to play.  Do you guys own any good gambling books or know of any website where you can learn skills to play certain games like Blackjack, Poker etc?
Long time ago I read the classic book Beat the Dealer by Edward Thorp, anyone that is serious about playing blackjack professionally must read the book because as far as I know it was the first time blackjack has been beaten as a game, unfortunately casinos now know about the strategy and they have developed several techniques to protect themselves, but even then there are a few professional teams out there that can beat them despite those changes, so if you have not read the book I seriously recommended it.
You might able to read up those things but wont really be enough for you to make yourself better in blackjack.There's no such thing about those holy grail methods.

I don't recommend any books or websites and it would really rather see or watch videos on YouTube in regards on learning up some gambling games which is out of my awareness or knowledge.

Everything can be searched up if you are really that eager on learning up those things since internet does provide out everything in terms of informations.
Somehow, I agree with this suggestion. If he can search from the internet, especially on Youtube, he can get many good lessons to learn poker, blackjack, etc and he does not need to buy a book anymore. The internet will have unlimited sources if we want to search for and have the patience to find the right book that can help us to improve our skills. If that is about resources, the internet is the best place to find it and you do not have to pay anything except your connection to the internet.

Besides that, I think many books will have a basic lesson for that card games but if you can get more lessons from the internet, your skills will improve and you can learn more techniques to win.

YouTube is a very good source of educational materials for all areas of human endeavor.  In particular, there are a lot of poker and blackjack training videos.  I really appreciate YouTube as a source of valuable information. 

However, in my opinion, it cannot replace books.  Especially paper books.  The basics of playing blackjack and poker can be learned by watching videos.  Paper books involve thoughtful study.  I read them at night (before bed).  In a dream, the main processing of information occurs.  I can read one book for more than six months. 

And each reading opens up new facets of the game of poker or blackjack for me.
Much really preferring on seeing those videos rather than on reading up those context or books but its not really bad to read up those things if you are really that eager or interested.

Whenever what you do believe on to be useful then its a personal kind of choice.Sites are been provided and you can really simply make up some simple search which might

really be relevant on the informations you do tend to seek off. So take on what you do seem that will really fits you out.

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September 23, 2021, 12:45:13 AM
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My father loved to gamble, and was a big Blackjack player.  He was an incredibly smart guy, and always did his homework before ever doing anything at all.  That was no different when it came to gambling.  I remember seeing him read several Blackjack books, which was his favorite game to play.  Do you guys own any good gambling books or know of any website where you can learn skills to play certain games like Blackjack, Poker etc?

I think a few other people already mentioned this, but for Blackjack advantage play I would look at Blackjack Apprenticeship.

For poker, I watch Daniel Negreanu's youtube channel where he tends to go into quite a lot of detail for the novice player.

I don't think that it's worth buying a book or buying a training course/subscription. Most of them aren't worth your money/time.

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September 23, 2021, 01:39:14 AM
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My father loved to gamble, and was a big Blackjack player.  He was an incredibly smart guy, and always did his homework before ever doing anything at all.  That was no different when it came to gambling.  I remember seeing him read several Blackjack books, which was his favorite game to play.  Do you guys own any good gambling books or know of any website where you can learn skills to play certain games like Blackjack, Poker etc?
Long time ago I read the classic book Beat the Dealer by Edward Thorp, anyone that is serious about playing blackjack professionally must read the book because as far as I know it was the first time blackjack has been beaten as a game, unfortunately casinos now know about the strategy and they have developed several techniques to protect themselves, but even then there are a few professional teams out there that can beat them despite those changes, so if you have not read the book I seriously recommended it.
You might able to read up those things but wont really be enough for you to make yourself better in blackjack.There's no such thing about those holy grail methods.

I don't recommend any books or websites and it would really rather see or watch videos on YouTube in regards on learning up some gambling games which is out of my awareness or knowledge.

Everything can be searched up if you are really that eager on learning up those things since internet does provide out everything in terms of informations.
Somehow, I agree with this suggestion. If he can search from the internet, especially on Youtube, he can get many good lessons to learn poker, blackjack, etc and he does not need to buy a book anymore. The internet will have unlimited sources if we want to search for and have the patience to find the right book that can help us to improve our skills. If that is about resources, the internet is the best place to find it and you do not have to pay anything except your connection to the internet.

Besides that, I think many books will have a basic lesson for that card games but if you can get more lessons from the internet, your skills will improve and you can learn more techniques to win.

YouTube is a very good source of educational materials for all areas of human endeavor.  In particular, there are a lot of poker and blackjack training videos.  I really appreciate YouTube as a source of valuable information. 

However, in my opinion, it cannot replace books.  Especially paper books.  The basics of playing blackjack and poker can be learned by watching videos.  Paper books involve thoughtful study.  I read them at night (before bed).  In a dream, the main processing of information occurs.  I can read one book for more than six months. 

And each reading opens up new facets of the game of poker or blackjack for me.
Much really preferring on seeing those videos rather than on reading up those context or books but its not really bad to read up those things if you are really that eager or interested.

Whenever what you do believe on to be useful then its a personal kind of choice.Sites are been provided and you can really simply make up some simple search which might

really be relevant on the informations you do tend to seek off. So take on what you do seem that will really fits you out.
Yes, youtube videos are much easier to understand because we can see firsthand the practice or tutorials and most importantly the videos are reliable and have a large number of subscribers and besides that they are easy to understand and can help in the desired gambling.
it all depends on you, it's easier to understand in what way and without buying a guide book you can search for it on google according to your needs, the most important thing is not lazy to read, and in my personal opinion youtube is a source of a myriad of knowledge depending on what we need.

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My father loved to gamble, and was a big Blackjack player.  He was an incredibly smart guy, and always did his homework before ever doing anything at all.  That was no different when it came to gambling.  I remember seeing him read several Blackjack books, which was his favorite game to play.  Do you guys own any good gambling books or know of any website where you can learn skills to play certain games like Blackjack, Poker etc?
Long time ago I read the classic book Beat the Dealer by Edward Thorp, anyone that is serious about playing blackjack professionally must read the book because as far as I know it was the first time blackjack has been beaten as a game, unfortunately casinos now know about the strategy and they have developed several techniques to protect themselves, but even then there are a few professional teams out there that can beat them despite those changes, so if you have not read the book I seriously recommended it.
You might able to read up those things but wont really be enough for you to make yourself better in blackjack.There's no such thing about those holy grail methods.

I don't recommend any books or websites and it would really rather see or watch videos on YouTube in regards on learning up some gambling games which is out of my awareness or knowledge.

Everything can be searched up if you are really that eager on learning up those things since internet does provide out everything in terms of informations.



I also prefer watching videos and strategy tutorials rather than reading gambling books for me to understand things clearly. Sometimes, reading enough couldn't give us complete information so visualizing it would be an advantage. There are also reliable books that we could find online but we have to be skeptical in picking.
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Maybe the theory in the 2020 book can't necessarily be proven true with the experience of gambling directly at the 2021 casino. That's why I prefer to read books about gambling as a form of scientific insight, or appreciate the writings of others. Just as the theory is always inconsistent with jumping in the field which has a more real possibility of creating when you gamble at a particular casino. Sometimes great gamblers are born not because of insight from what they read, but more dominantly from direct experience that he experienced. Is not it?

I do not reject the idea that books are great source of insights, in fact, I would love to read and appreciate different writings on gambling. Although, I would not understate the belief that I uphold that experience is the best teacher. Indeed, direct experience build and makes up a great gambler.

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My father loved to gamble, and was a big Blackjack player.  He was an incredibly smart guy, and always did his homework before ever doing anything at all.  That was no different when it came to gambling.  I remember seeing him read several Blackjack books, which was his favorite game to play.  Do you guys own any good gambling books or know of any website where you can learn skills to play certain games like Blackjack, Poker etc?
Long time ago I read the classic book Beat the Dealer by Edward Thorp, anyone that is serious about playing blackjack professionally must read the book because as far as I know it was the first time blackjack has been beaten as a game, unfortunately casinos now know about the strategy and they have developed several techniques to protect themselves, but even then there are a few professional teams out there that can beat them despite those changes, so if you have not read the book I seriously recommended it.
You might able to read up those things but wont really be enough for you to make yourself better in blackjack.There's no such thing about those holy grail methods.

I don't recommend any books or websites and it would really rather see or watch videos on YouTube in regards on learning up some gambling games which is out of my awareness or knowledge.

Everything can be searched up if you are really that eager on learning up those things since internet does provide out everything in terms of informations.


Beat the Dealer by Edward Thorp is in fact the holy grail as you put it, it is a proven method to be able to play with an advantage against the casinos, I think card counting already existed but he was the the first to describe exactly why this worked and he beat the casinos with this and all professional blackjack player uses card counting to beat the casinos, this is not luck or any of the fake methods that you can find online, it is a skill and it is not easy to learn and as I said casinos know about this so getting profits is harder, but it can still be done by those that are serious about the game.

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September 29, 2021, 06:31:01 AM
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Maybe the theory in the 2020 book can't necessarily be proven true with the experience of gambling directly at the 2021 casino. That's why I prefer to read books about gambling as a form of scientific insight, or appreciate the writings of others. Just as the theory is always inconsistent with jumping in the field which has a more real possibility of creating when you gamble at a particular casino. Sometimes great gamblers are born not because of insight from what they read, but more dominantly from direct experience that he experienced. Is not it?

I do not reject the idea that books are great source of insights, in fact, I would love to read and appreciate different writings on gambling. Although, I would not understate the belief that I uphold that experience is the best teacher. Indeed, direct experience build and makes up a great gambler.
Reading books will be good to get more information besides of search for the info from the internet.
If they can have much information from many resources and practice what he learns, he can get more experience that can give him the chance to win.
Experience can be the best teacher but that will only work if you can learn from your experience and learn from your mistakes to improve your skills.
Someone becomes a pro if he can use many things to get more knowledge.
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Maybe the theory in the 2020 book can't necessarily be proven true with the experience of gambling directly at the 2021 casino. That's why I prefer to read books about gambling as a form of scientific insight, or appreciate the writings of others. Just as the theory is always inconsistent with jumping in the field which has a more real possibility of creating when you gamble at a particular casino. Sometimes great gamblers are born not because of insight from what they read, but more dominantly from direct experience that he experienced. Is not it?

I do not reject the idea that books are great source of insights, in fact, I would love to read and appreciate different writings on gambling. Although, I would not understate the belief that I uphold that experience is the best teacher. Indeed, direct experience build and makes up a great gambler.

In my opinion, when you start learning poker and blackjack, you need to fully immerse yourself in this subject. 

Yes, hands-on experience is very important.  In this case, you need to play with both stronger and weaker players.  Each player has his own stance and tactics of the game. 

You can learn useful tricks from everyone.  But one game is not enough.  The study of theory is also necessary.  You can learn theory by watching YouTube videos and reading books.  When I started to master the game of poker, my thoughts were only about this game of chance. 

Sometimes I stopped passers-by on the street to tell them about another trick of playing poker (which I realized for myself).  People looked at me like I was crazy.  But I knew it was a learning process.😊

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My father loved to gamble, and was a big Blackjack player.  He was an incredibly smart guy, and always did his homework before ever doing anything at all.  That was no different when it came to gambling.  I remember seeing him read several Blackjack books, which was his favorite game to play.  Do you guys own any good gambling books or know of any website where you can learn skills to play certain games like Blackjack, Poker etc?

I saw some bookstores selling books but I didn't have the chance to check or probably browse on it. Was it really helpful to improve your games and your skills if you read such books I think it still depends on chances that you are going to win in Blackjack and poker right? or there was something more like strategy and other things which would improve your chance of winning.

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There are also instances where we are ended up in a situation that's not mentioned or written on the source we read at. That's the time experience matters so even losing during the early period, just continue as mistakes is the best foundation on building an experience.

And we are required to be creative if we do not find something that does not fit in the book but in gambling it is something new. Not everything is listed in the Blackjack manual. We must be able to collaborate from several existing sources and create winning opportunities based on real conditions. The structure or steps in the book are only taken from the important points, not all include the techniques that we must apply in all Blackjack gambling.

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I would not reject the idea that such statistics are useful for gamblers since these can provide knowledge which ca make a gambler make informed moves and decisions. Although, I also have a perspective on the other side.
If you don't reject the idea then that means that I'm right, that we shouldn't be read a lot of those books and that only one suffices since they're all essentially the same.

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My father loved to gamble, and was a big Blackjack player.  He was an incredibly smart guy, and always did his homework before ever doing anything at all.  That was no different when it came to gambling.  I remember seeing him read several Blackjack books, which was his favorite game to play.  Do you guys own any good gambling books or know of any website where you can learn skills to play certain games like Blackjack, Poker etc?

You're better off using google and doing your own research on books for these two games. There is already a world of information out there, just type "top 10 poker books" or "top 10 blackjack books" in and compare the feedback from a few different websites. You'll quickly be able to narrow down the books that are repeated favorites and those are probably the ones to go for first. This helps you minimize falling for astroturfing or fake reviews. Google is probably a much better source of a rating system than actual shopping sites like Amazon who are heavily manipulated. At the end of the day you'll only beat the house at Blackjack by counting cards and every live casino will catch you quickly these days. Poker is a good game but there are people who have spent many decades practicing and you'll need to be very clever to outplay them, plus beat the rake.

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September 29, 2021, 05:25:29 PM
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My father loved to gamble, and was a big Blackjack player.  He was an incredibly smart guy, and always did his homework before ever doing anything at all.  That was no different when it came to gambling.  I remember seeing him read several Blackjack books, which was his favorite game to play.  Do you guys own any good gambling books or know of any website where you can learn skills to play certain games like Blackjack, Poker etc?
Long time ago I read the classic book Beat the Dealer by Edward Thorp, anyone that is serious about playing blackjack professionally must read the book because as far as I know it was the first time blackjack has been beaten as a game, unfortunately casinos now know about the strategy and they have developed several techniques to protect themselves, but even then there are a few professional teams out there that can beat them despite those changes, so if you have not read the book I seriously recommended it.
You might able to read up those things but wont really be enough for you to make yourself better in blackjack.There's no such thing about those holy grail methods.

I don't recommend any books or websites and it would really rather see or watch videos on YouTube in regards on learning up some gambling games which is out of my awareness or knowledge.

Everything can be searched up if you are really that eager on learning up those things since internet does provide out everything in terms of informations.



Make no mistake, books are also very important to expand knowledge. On Youtube just as a basic addition so that we get to know more about how to gamble directly when someone is playing Blackjack. Both watching videos and reading books, both are very active in increasing knowledge. Especially if accompanied by simple practices such as fighting friends or visiting online casinos to get to know each other more closely.

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September 29, 2021, 08:13:33 PM
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You're better off using google and doing your own research on books for these two games. There is already a world of information out there, just type "top 10 poker books" or "top 10 blackjack books" in and compare the feedback from a few different websites. You'll quickly be able to narrow down the books that are repeated favorites and those are probably the ones to go for first. This helps you minimize falling for astroturfing or fake reviews. Google is probably a much better source of a rating system than actual shopping sites like Amazon who are heavily manipulated. At the end of the day you'll only beat the house at Blackjack by counting cards and every live casino will catch you quickly these days. Poker is a good game but there are people who have spent many decades practicing and you'll need to be very clever to outplay them, plus beat the rake.

Apart from that your advice about better searching on Google is a way to save even more. It is true that nowadays nothing is difficult if we really want to find something material-based on the internet. Not even just gambling books, whatever it is will be provided based on the most relevant search keywords.
Although for me personally ordering physical books for reference as well as downloading on Google are both important to do. The reason is quite simple, when we do not find what we are looking for in books, we can find it on the internet.

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Maybe the theory in the 2020 book can't necessarily be proven true with the experience of gambling directly at the 2021 casino. That's why I prefer to read books about gambling as a form of scientific insight, or appreciate the writings of others. Just as the theory is always inconsistent with jumping in the field which has a more real possibility of creating when you gamble at a particular casino. Sometimes great gamblers are born not because of insight from what they read, but more dominantly from direct experience that he experienced. Is not it?

I do not reject the idea that books are great source of insights, in fact, I would love to read and appreciate different writings on gambling. Although, I would not understate the belief that I uphold that experience is the best teacher. Indeed, direct experience build and makes up a great gambler.

In my opinion, when you start learning poker and blackjack, you need to fully immerse yourself in this subject. 

Yes, hands-on experience is very important.  In this case, you need to play with both stronger and weaker players.  Each player has his own stance and tactics of the game. 

You can learn useful tricks from everyone.  But one game is not enough.  The study of theory is also necessary.  You can learn theory by watching YouTube videos and reading books.  When I started to master the game of poker, my thoughts were only about this game of chance. 

Sometimes I stopped passers-by on the street to tell them about another trick of playing poker (which I realized for myself).  People looked at me like I was crazy.  But I knew it was a learning process.😊
Like most things in life you can learn by just reading or seeing someone else do it but at the end of the day at some point you need to begin to take a hands on approach and see how good you can be, this means that you are going to suffer some losses and you will make your fair share of mistakes but that is part of any learning experience, however if your aim is to become a professional poker player then this is even harder as you will compete against people that have years of experience over you, so the road ahead of you will be even harder if you choose that route.

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