BADecker is one of the most dedicated and successful trolls on the forum

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Typically, these drugs can only be consumed after receiving a prescription from a doctor.

True, but I just saw ivermectin being sold over the counter in a tractor/feed supply store.  Don't ask me why I was there, because I won't answer you (lol), but it's certainly readily available--and it's been hyped as a cure for COVID for quite a while now.  And believe me, drugs of all kinds make their way out of the supply chain all the time.  There are many, many ways that can happen.  Not to mention that any drug can be synthesized if you know a little bit about organic chemistry and have the right lab equipment.

I was slightly curious as to how often he ever posts outside of P&S, and it turns out sometimes he also posts in Off-Topic. Over 95% of his posts have been in P&S or Off-Topic.

I wonder why someone would pick this forum to rant and rave about politics and oddball conspiracy theory stuff.  There are plenty of forums dedicated to those sorts of things.  My guess is that he probably belongs to some of them, but it's weird that he found his way to the P&S and Off-Topic sections of a forum with bitcoin as its main focus.

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[nutildah]

I wonder why someone would pick this forum to rant and rave about politics and oddball conspiracy theory stuff.  There are plenty of forums dedicated to those sorts of things.  My guess is that he probably belongs to some of them, but it's weird that he found his way to the P&S and Off-Topic sections of a forum with bitcoin as its main focus.

For whatever reason he clearly enjoys it, I just can't for the life of me figure out how. He's not the classical attention hog troll -- for instance we won't see him here reveling in enjoyment in being discussed. He doesn't know about this thread, and I doubt he cares much about what happens outside of his own head.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

For whatever reason he clearly enjoys it, I just can't for the life of me figure out how. He's not the classical attention hog troll -- for instance we won't see him here reveling in enjoyment in being discussed. He doesn't know about this thread, and I doubt he cares much about what happens outside of his own head.

I'm sure he does enjoy it.  Why else would anyone spend significant amounts of time on a forum writing things, no matter how strange they may seem to the average person?  And as I said, there are forums where tin-foil hat brigades congregate and debate back and forth about some garboon's frame-by-frame analysis of the latest mass shooting.  They not only enjoy doing this stuff, I think it gets them off sexually.

That said, I haven't looked at BADecker's posts lately and don't know the last time I've seen one.  But whatever he's writing, it's probably not for the purposes of trolling anyone.  Just because someone takes a very nutty stance on something doesn't make them a troll--a lot of people really believe there are paid crisis actors at every mass casualty and that the planes that hit the towers on 9/11/01 were holograms.  Crazy, right?  Well, when those people show up on this forum it probably appears like they're trying to get a response out of the community, but to them they're just following their own pretzel-twisted train track of logic.

[eddie13]

Maybe he is paid opposition and makes more BTC than ChipMixer posters..

Guy might be filthy rich being paid by “them” in attempt to discredit positions he takes..
Like Alex Jones..


Don’t want the truth out? Mix it with crazy to discredit it all.. Like ufos for the last 50 years..

[PrimeNumber7]

Regulation

Regulation is just a form of government control and should be minimized/moderated. I would not oppose a treatment just because it is not regulated. Similarly, if you are in a dire situation, you should be willing to accept experimental treatments to potentially result in a positive outcome.

I think we probably disagree on a lot of the above.

Typically, these drugs can only be consumed after receiving a prescription from a doctor.

True, but I just saw ivermectin being sold over the counter in a tractor/feed supply store.  Don't ask me why I was there, because I won't answer you (lol), but it's certainly readily available--and it's been hyped as a cure for COVID for quite a while now.  And believe me, drugs of all kinds make their way out of the supply chain all the time.  There are many, many ways that can happen.  Not to mention that any drug can be synthesized if you know a little bit about organic chemistry and have the right lab equipment.

I doubt that ivermectin is a cure for Covid (but I really don’t know).  I can say that if a cure is found, it will be fiercely opposed by the establishment. Covid has simply allowed for those in power to have too much control for them to allow for any effective treatments.

[eddie13]

Similarly, if you are in a dire situation, you should be willing to accept experimental treatments to potentially result in a positive outcome.

Like mRNA modification?

[PrimeNumber7]

Similarly, if you are in a dire situation, you should be willing to accept experimental treatments to potentially result in a positive outcome.

Like mRNA modification?

Yes, I would gladly take a vaccine that uses an mRNA modification.

[suchmoon]

I can say that if a cure is found, it will be fiercely opposed by the establishment. Covid has simply allowed for those in power to have too much control for them to allow for any effective treatments.

That explains why the establishment is so fiercely opposed to the vaccine because it must be even worse for their devious purposes than a cure, it prevents most people from even getting sick.

[PrimeNumber7]

I can say that if a cure is found, it will be fiercely opposed by the establishment. Covid has simply allowed for those in power to have too much control for them to allow for any effective treatments.

That explains why the establishment is so fiercely opposed to the vaccine because it must be even worse for their devious purposes than a cure, it prevents most people from even getting sick.

Vaccines will become less effective as additional strains inevitably evolve from the original virus. Vaccine mandates are one additional way for politicians to control people, and will be the means for them to assert additional control over citizens.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Similarly, if you are in a dire situation, you should be willing to accept experimental treatments to potentially result in a positive outcome.

You should be willing to accept experimental treatments as part of a controlled trial, which have appropriate lab data to suggest their efficacy, which have been through appropriate safety studies, are produced in a controlled and safe manner, and are given by trained professionals at an appropriate dose in an appropriate setting to deal with any unknown or unforeseen side effects. You shouldn't experiment on yourself with random chemicals because a stranger on the internet told you to. Again, the two are not comparable.

[PrimeNumber7]

Similarly, if you are in a dire situation, you should be willing to accept experimental treatments to potentially result in a positive outcome.

You should be willing to accept experimental treatments as part of a controlled trial, which have appropriate lab data to suggest their efficacy, which have been through appropriate safety studies, are produced in a controlled and safe manner, and are given by trained professionals at an appropriate dose in an appropriate setting to deal with any unknown or unforeseen side effects. You shouldn't experiment on yourself with random chemicals because a stranger on the internet told you to. Again, the two are not comparable.

Ultimately, scientists need to experiment to determine what the "appropriate" dosages for various drugs are. All drugs need to be tested on people before it can be said they are "safe" for humans to use. All drugs also will at one point not have data suggesting they have sufficient efficacy.

There are also situations in which the ability for a particular drug to help a patient is speculative, but the patient's situation is sufficiently dire that it will be compassionate to allow the patient to "try" the drug.

[DaveF]

...You shouldn't experiment on yourself with random chemicals because a stranger on the internet told you to....

Isn't that what we keep college students who use the darknet markets around for?

On an interesting note, for those of you who have not been following the Epik hack:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/anonymous-leaks-gigabytes-of-data-from-epik-web-host-of-gab-and-parler/

At least two of the sites that BADecker likes to post information from were using them.
Have to download the torrent and parse the data see who is behind them.

Or just wait for someone else to put it up in human readable form.

-Dave

[o_e_l_e_o]

Ultimately, scientists need to experiment to determine what the "appropriate" dosages for various drugs are. All drugs need to be tested on people before it can be said they are "safe" for humans to use. All drugs also will at one point not have data suggesting they have sufficient efficacy.

There are very specific phases of clinical trials which drugs must pass through before going in to general production. None of these involve random people buying a random drug and self administering it in random dosages for conditions with little to no data for said drug.

To get back on topic to BADecker here, I'm unclear as to why you are defending someone who any rational person would agree is spreading incorrect and dangerous information.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

You know what we do with trolls? We ignore them and not make a topic about them because that's exactly how they thrive, through the spread of the word about their work and how they made someone mad to the point that they made a topic about the troll.

[sirazimuth]

Well I'll be jiggered! A thread devoted to my good buddy BADecker..lol
I've always wondered if he actually believes the garbage he posts in the threads he spams the p+s section with, or he just loves the attention, or maybe he is just plain old bloody bonkers. Who knows.
He nearly always replies to me when I take the mickey outta him, which is why I kinda like him in a strange way. I think I even shot him a merit once. (I must have been three sheets to the wind)
I used to frequently post in the plethora of atheist threads that he always turned up in with his godswill preaching nonsense.
The claptrap debates he had with another nutter on the Flat Earth thread were epic.
Nowadays, I occasionally troll him if I'm bored and had a few, but at the end of the day you might as well beat a dead horse.

..... He doesn't know about this thread....

Well that's easily fixed....

[PrimeNumber7]

To get back on topic to BADecker here, I'm unclear as to why you are defending someone who any rational person would agree is spreading incorrect and dangerous information.

Well I firmly believe that people are entitled to say what they believe, or what they say they believe.

I would also disagree that “any rational person” would agree that what he posts is “dangerous”. He is certainly promoting unproven treatments. There is also very little data on the treatments he is promoting.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Well I firmly believe that people are entitled to say what they believe, or what they say they believe.

As do I, which is why I've never tried to have any of his posts deleted. There is a significant difference between defending free speech and defending the individuals which use that free speech to tell provable lies.

I would also disagree that “any rational person” would agree that what he posts is “dangerous”. He is certainly promoting unproven treatments. There is also very little data on the treatments he is promoting.

If you don't think that telling people to experiment on themselves with unstudied treatments or drink bleach isn't dangerous, then I don't really know that to say.

[Igebotz]

I would also disagree that “any rational person” would agree that what he posts is “dangerous”. He is certainly promoting unproven treatments. There is also very little data on the treatments he is promoting.

If you don't think that telling people to experiment on themselves with unstudied treatments or drink bleach isn't dangerous, then I don't really know that to say.

If I gave you a gun to rob a bank, I would expect you to DYOR for your own protection rather than running to the bank like a dumb robot. Coming online to share what has worked for me in the past is not the same as telling someone to commit suicide. I can confidently tell you to buy Panado xtra to relieve headaches because I've used it before and it worked for me. As a reasonable individual, you are expected to take according to your age and not overdose like a stupid robot.

Chlorine oxide contains one chlorine atom and two oxygen and it's well known as a water disinfectant it poses no health risk unless when taken overdose

[jcojci]

Troll or not, but this forum have that person or more

It's also happening in real life when you see people from your neighborhood who act the same as him. So let him do what he wants. If you don't like it, you don't have to say anything