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September 19, 2021, 05:58:04 PM |
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How do you take the review from the casino 5, 4, 3 stars?, I can't also click T&C Apply for every casino on site. I just want to know how to rate the list.
your social media (Telegram) only have 10 subscribers, maybe you need to do more teamwork to growing up everything.
So what do they need when casinos want to list on your Provably Fair? have they need to contact your marketing place or are you searching it manually only when they have a probably fair system?.
To be completely honest, we are rating sites based on our personal experience while we test that certain site. Our prime focus is on provably fair system and on their provably fair games but of course, we are also testing other stuff that are useful for players (deposits/ withdrawals/ API etc.). Sites usually contact us at our official email which you can find on our site under "Contact us" section. I guess you started to make this provably fair verifier website since long time ago as you still include Yolodice. Yolodice is not operating anymore as they decided to close down since March this year, so better to remove it from your verifier website. The other "a bit" out of date information is related to the number of games in some casinos. In your website, Stake has 14 provably fair games and Bitsler has 5 games, in fact there are 16 provably fair games in both sites.
Thank you for your feedback. Like mentioned earlier in one of the posts, we are aware of that and we will update the whole site asap. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Welcome to bitcointalk forum. Anyway, I haven't been able to gamble for quite some time but knowing that there is a verifier that you can use to determine the fairness of the gambling site helps you to know if it is fair or not. In my opinion, this is mucu useful for those who gamble decent amount of money and those who want to provide a review of different casinos and sportsbooks.
Even if we know that the gambling site is fair, it won't affect the fact that we still lose more in those sites than win. But it's not that useless of an addition, at the least we know that the sites we're playing in are fair, right? Of course, you can lose even on a provably fair site, everything depends on your luck but at least you will know that your bets are not being manipulated. ~snip
If there is a report on whether a gambling site is fair or not, then it is definitely a good way. Many times gamblers get wrong information and go to various unfair gambling websites to play and lose their money. Yes, gamblers also lose money on the fair gambling website but that is after playing the game fairly. I hope this website will help gamblers to choose the right gambling website. Let's see how they continue their activities in the coming days. That's not my point thoguh, yes it's helpful that there's a site that helps you with insuring that the gambling site your visiting is a fair one but my point which didn't get through your head in my previous post is that even if they know it's fair, it's the same thing, they will still lose more. You should gamble only for fun, gamble with what you can afford to lose. NEVER gamble to try to earn money. Every game has a house edge and that's the advantage of a casino over you. Even if we know that the gambling site is fair, it won't affect the fact that we still lose more in those sites than win. But it's not that useless of an addition, at the least we know that the sites we're playing in are fair, right?
If there is a report on whether a gambling site is fair or not, then it is definitely a good way. Many times gamblers get wrong information and go to various unfair gambling websites to play and lose their money. Yes, gamblers also lose money on the fair gambling website but that is after playing the game fairly. I hope this website will help gamblers to choose the right gambling website. Let's see how they continue their activities in the coming days. Fairness is something that is important for every gambler, it may not increase the chance of winning but at least you have a confident that you are playing on a good site. Yes, there's a lot of dishonest gambling site that put gamblers on a bigger risk, fortunately there's a good gambling site reviews site available to read any time just go on a trusted site. This can be a good one, I'm also hoping for their consistency on giving good reviews. We will do our best to keep the site updated and get more reviews and verifiers. Hopefully, more sites as well. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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September 20, 2021, 02:28:20 AM |
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Even if we know that the gambling site is fair, it won't affect the fact that we still lose more in those sites than win. But it's not that useless of an addition, at the least we know that the sites we're playing in are fair, right?
It is true that most of the result when we gamble is always lose. Only fool will think that the win are more than lose. Not all gamblers are gambling just for a chance to win big time as some gamblers are looking for fun, excitement, thrill and more. Well yeah, at least the site is fair so those who are looking for fun won't be a problem.
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September 20, 2021, 02:34:35 AM |
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Excellent initiative.
I think that people these days generally tend to take what outcomes they get as granted, but you're still responsible for verifying your rolls.
Otherwise what's the point of provably fair? If you are actually obsessed with fairness then you should definitely verify every roll that you do (especially the ones that cost you >$100).
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September 20, 2021, 06:39:49 AM |
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Even if we know that the gambling site is fair, it won't affect the fact that we still lose more in those sites than win. But it's not that useless of an addition, at the least we know that the sites we're playing in are fair, right?
It is true that most of the result when we gamble is always lose. Only fool will think that the win are more than lose. Not all gamblers are gambling just for a chance to win big time as some gamblers are looking for fun, excitement, thrill and more. Well yeah, at least the site is fair so those who are looking for fun won't be a problem. If we compare the result between we win or the casino win, surely the casino will take the biggest money because they can get it from many gamblers while if we win, we only get a small part from them. Besides that, many gamblers will play gambling every day in various gambling games, so the casino's chance to win big money will be wide open. Well, one or more gamblers can win a lot of money but that will happen many times as most gamblers will lose their money.
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September 20, 2021, 10:18:01 AM |
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Excellent initiative.
I think that people these days generally tend to take what outcomes they get as granted, but you're still responsible for verifying your rolls.
Otherwise what's the point of provably fair? If you are actually obsessed with fairness then you should definitely verify every roll that you do (especially the ones that cost you >$100).
That is true unfortunately. We dont think that even 1% of our players will verify their bets, which is not good. We rly do support projects like this. I might go as far as waring their signature if they have one to promote provably fairness. Hehe.
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September 20, 2021, 10:31:29 AM |
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Excellent initiative.
I think that people these days generally tend to take what outcomes they get as granted, but you're still responsible for verifying your rolls.
Otherwise what's the point of provably fair? If you are actually obsessed with fairness then you should definitely verify every roll that you do (especially the ones that cost you >$100).
That is true unfortunately. We dont think that even 1% of our players will verify their bets, which is not good. We rly do support projects like this. I might go as far as waring their signature if they have one to promote provably fairness. Hehe. Most gamblers don't check the provable fairness of their games especially if they are playing on a reputable site. It is like we already trust them enough regarding this important feature. But it is still best if you check this from time to time. Just to make sure everything is in place. And this kind of service is great as they can make our jobs much easier. On another note, I was surprised, they don't have the sportsbet verifier yet, which is actually the go-to of a lot of sportsbettors here.
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September 20, 2021, 02:28:23 PM |
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Excellent initiative.
I think that people these days generally tend to take what outcomes they get as granted, but you're still responsible for verifying your rolls.
Otherwise what's the point of provably fair? If you are actually obsessed with fairness then you should definitely verify every roll that you do (especially the ones that cost you >$100).
That is true unfortunately. We dont think that even 1% of our players will verify their bets, which is not good. We rly do support projects like this. I might go as far as waring their signature if they have one to promote provably fairness. Hehe. I agree, I'll make myself as an example, I've been playing in online casino for more than a year and I never had used any bet verifiers, but I do know that these programs are existing. I never used since I just trusted those gambling platforms where I am playing. And just like me, I know a lot of gamblers out there didn't used these programs even once.
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September 20, 2021, 10:00:07 PM |
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Excellent initiative.
I think that people these days generally tend to take what outcomes they get as granted, but you're still responsible for verifying your rolls.
Otherwise what's the point of provably fair? If you are actually obsessed with fairness then you should definitely verify every roll that you do (especially the ones that cost you >$100).
That is true unfortunately. We dont think that even 1% of our players will verify their bets, which is not good. We rly do support projects like this. I might go as far as waring their signature if they have one to promote provably fairness. Hehe. Most gamblers don't check the provable fairness of their games especially if they are playing on a reputable site. It is like we already trust them enough regarding this important feature. But it is still best if you check this from time to time. Just to make sure everything is in place. And this kind of service is great as they can make our jobs much easier. On another note, I was surprised, they don't have the sportsbet verifier yet, which is actually the go-to of a lot of sportsbettors here. To be honest, we are not sure what do you mean by that. Can you please try to explain in more detail? Betting on sports is to say "fair" by itself. Yes, you can probably find that some sport matches were rigged in the past and to be honest there is really nothing that we or anybody else could do to change the fact that some minor leagues are getting rigged. Do not get us wrong, we are not saying that some minor leagues are getting rigged but we are also not saying that they aren't. There's simply no proof that can prove one or the other. But sport (any sport) like activity promotes fair play and that's why we say that betting on sports is "fair".
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September 21, 2021, 01:26:40 AM |
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Most gamblers don't check the provable fairness of their games especially if they are playing on a reputable site. It is like we already trust them enough regarding this important feature. But it is still best if you check this from time to time. Just to make sure everything is in place. And this kind of service is great as they can make our jobs much easier. On another note, I was surprised, they don't have the sportsbet verifier yet, which is actually the go-to of a lot of sportsbettors here.
Because they are not developers, coders and don't learn to verify the provably fairness of casino. However having the provably fair for a casino is a condition to bring more trust for one casino. It is a similar condition like open source code. Not all of us can test open source code but experts can and if they test and did not find harmful threats, suspicious things, we can believe in community verification. There are casino reviews and provably fair verifiers, if they and community don't detect cheat from casinos, I think those casinos can be considered to use. It is better if you learn to use verifier and do verify by yourself.
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September 21, 2021, 06:59:46 AM |
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Most gamblers don't check the provable fairness of their games especially if they are playing on a reputable site. On another note, I was surprised, they don't have the sportsbet verifier yet, which is actually the go-to of a lot of sportsbettors here.
Because they are not developers, coders and don't learn to verify the provably fairness of casino. afaik its not that hard to verify . you can just copy and paste the characters that you see and the results will show if its fair or not . sites like this one can also be more user friendly and perfect for newbies to use if they having a hard time to use the verfiier on the gambling site that they are using . @TimeTeller i guess sportsbetting doesnt need a verifier at all because the results are not held by a gambling site alone .
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September 21, 2021, 02:27:43 PM |
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OP you could create an area on your site just to talk about the dangers of scam casinos and mention scam casinos, this can bring more legitimacy to your site as you will not only be posting proven fair casinos but also alerting people whenever some casino becomes a scam, it is important that people know which casinos are scam so they don't use scam casinos.
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September 21, 2021, 11:50:19 PM |
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Most gamblers don't check the provable fairness of their games especially if they are playing on a reputable site. It is like we already trust them enough regarding this important feature. But it is still best if you check this from time to time. Just to make sure everything is in place. And this kind of service is great as they can make our jobs much easier. On another note, I was surprised, they don't have the sportsbet verifier yet, which is actually the go-to of a lot of sportsbettors here.
Because they are not developers, coders and don't learn to verify the provably fairness of casino. However having the provably fair for a casino is a condition to bring more trust for one casino. It is a similar condition like open source code. Not all of us can test open source code but experts can and if they test and did not find harmful threats, suspicious things, we can believe in community verification. There are casino reviews and provably fair verifiers, if they and community don't detect cheat from casinos, I think those casinos can be considered to use. It is better if you learn to use verifier and do verify by yourself. That is why sites like this one provablyfair.me are great because you can use it to verify your bets and its very simple compared to coding you would need to do to verify on your own.
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September 22, 2021, 08:25:35 PM |
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Most gamblers don't check the provable fairness of their games especially if they are playing on a reputable site. On another note, I was surprised, they don't have the sportsbet verifier yet, which is actually the go-to of a lot of sportsbettors here.
Because they are not developers, coders and don't learn to verify the provably fairness of casino. afaik its not that hard to verify . you can just copy and paste the characters that you see and the results will show if its fair or not . sites like this one can also be more user friendly and perfect for newbies to use if they having a hard time to use the verfiier on the gambling site that they are using . We believe that everything is simple if you decide to use our verifiers but we can consider adding some guides if you guys think it's necessary. To be honest, we didn't have any complaints or questions on how to use verifiers. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) OP you could create an area on your site just to talk about the dangers of scam casinos and mention scam casinos, this can bring more legitimacy to your site as you will not only be posting proven fair casinos but also alerting people whenever some casino becomes a scam, it is important that people know which casinos are scam so they don't use scam casinos.
To be honest that's not a bad idea but if we do that, our site will look more like a forum. We are working on adding Alerts section (like mentioned in the 2nd post) and hopefully, that will be useful for all of us. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 22, 2021, 09:41:41 PM |
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Good job for launching this OP. However, my observation is that some of the links are actually broken. Take for example this: https://www.provablyfair.me/casino/bc-game. Don't think that there is anything loading for me when it comes to the provably fair verifier. Could you take a look?
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September 24, 2021, 11:31:13 PM |
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Good job for launching this OP. However, my observation is that some of the links are actually broken. Take for example this: https://www.provablyfair.me/casino/bc-game. Don't think that there is anything loading for me when it comes to the provably fair verifier. Could you take a look? Yeah, we apologize for that. BC-game verifier is yet to be added and there are quite a bit small stuff that need to be improved as well.
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September 25, 2021, 12:09:20 AM |
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How do you take the review from the casino 5, 4, 3 stars?, I can't also click T&C Apply for every casino on site. I just want to know how to rate the list.
your social media (Telegram) only have 10 subscribers, maybe you need to do more teamwork to growing up everything.
So what do they need when casinos want to list on your Provably Fair? have they need to contact your marketing place or are you searching it manually only when they have a probably fair system?.
To be completely honest, we are rating sites based on our personal experience while we test that certain site. Our prime focus is on provably fair system and on their provably fair games but of course, we are also testing other stuff that are useful for players (deposits/ withdrawals/ API etc.). Sites usually contact us at our official email which you can find on our site under "Contact us" section. Congratulations for the initiative of creating a site related to gambling sites' transparency. I know you are just starting with this idea right now, but I think you could add your personal experience with each casino on your site as well. So besides the probably fair verifier, you would also offer your personal review about each gambling platform, what in my opinion is necessary to corroborate the number of starts you give them. And maybe it would be interesting to contact casinos too, instead of waiting to be contacted by them. I see there are many more to add yet. Good luck with your website, I hope it succeeds.
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worle1bm
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September 25, 2021, 06:43:08 AM |
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I assume that this is yet another crypto gambling review website with the added feature of verifying bets. I like the website design.It looks clean and fresh.It would be nice if you add more casinos to the list. To honest,I've never really cared about the fairness of the gambling games.A crypto casino can still scam it's customers,even if the games are "probably fair",like having blocked withdrawals,accounts banned for no reason,"hacked" accounts,problems with the website,while the players are placing their bets,etc. Gambling is just for fun,not for making money. Anyway,good luck with this project,OP.
Those are some of the secondary steps that a casino could take to fool you and scam your out of your own money but main priority for gamblers is that casino games should be probably fair and you can verify your bets with it as it provides some sort of guarantee that house is not cheating in any manner and result were random.But still there could be problematic situation after that like change in probably fair script or bugs that can cause breach.But most casino now prefer to have them as players want them.
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September 25, 2021, 12:43:26 PM |
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Those are some of the secondary steps that a casino could take to fool you and scam your out of your own money but main priority for gamblers is that casino games should be probably fair and you can verify your bets with it as it provides some sort of guarantee that house is not cheating in any manner and result were random.But still there could be problematic situation after that like change in probably fair script or bugs that can cause breach.But most casino now prefer to have them as players want them.
It's provably fair, not probably fair. Online casinos and casinos that accept cryptocurrencies have to provide provably fair gambling and they have to write tutorial on how to verify provably fair on their casinos. You can not trust them, verify on your side.
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September 26, 2021, 02:29:51 AM |
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Was that a calculator you have on your website for each gambling site? Actually that was a good feature maybe I could check the fairness of my game and double checked it through your website. I also think that you might need to update your website since I see that there's still a yolodice in your list, I know that it's a good and fair website but they closed their website just recently.
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mak013
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September 26, 2021, 04:43:19 AM |
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It's provably fair, not probably fair.
Online casinos and casinos that accept cryptocurrencies have to provide provably fair gambling and they have to write tutorial on how to verify provably fair on their casinos.
You can not trust them, verify on your side.
This is true for everything in our life. Everything is fair, until else. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) As for me - i test online casino with small money. Deposit small, bet small, withdraw small. If everything ok - i add some more money. And 1 more rule: when i bet - i forget this money.
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