An alternative to Poker

[Lucasgabd]

this is interesting ethereumhunter
mastering of any activity takes time and hours of practice
even though you can learn how to be an average poker player in a couple of weeks, or maybe even days, mastering it will probably take years, some say it takes 10,000 hours to master any craft

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[Fredomago]

This is the beauty when you do deal up with strategic type of games on where you could really make out some advantage if you are really good on handling out the game. It wont really matter much if you do only have small bankroll or capital to make use.

Strategic type of games like poker and other card games is  really good to learn on and same goes on entertaining yourself aside on playing with dice or automated games
and you do just simply wait up for the results or outcome but well this is talking about self preference.

I remember when I was a child I used to watched those older people playing gambling sometimes I spend a lot of my time watching them playing and by looking at the faces of the poker player I could say that they are in a serious mode of game. This is one of the game that I've known which require skills and luck at the same time. The good thing about this kind of game is that when you are more experienced than on your opponent you have the advantage to win the game.

Yeah right, with this kind of game is more on your skills than luck. Experienced is an advantage as you know how to react each time your opponents are dealing with you. You'll noticed how serious everyone around the table as they know that in one single mistake their opponent can easily read their cards by means of every emotion and reactions that they are showing.

It's a tough competition, but even you are just watching for sure, you are also been driven by all those gamblers who are playing, intense and exciting. That's how you feel while waiting for anyone who will come out as a winner.

[cafucafucafu]

You could look into Crash/dual player Crash.

Even though most of it is chance, there is a degree of psychology involved because if you are able to cash out at just the right time you can often reap bonuses on top of your win (for being one of the last people to cash out before the crash).

I wouldn't touch the NFT games that other people are touting, though.

[Quidat]

this is interesting ethereumhunter
mastering of any activity takes time and hours of practice
even though you can learn how to be an average poker player in a couple of weeks, or maybe even days, mastering it will probably take years, some say it takes 10,000 hours to master any craft

This would be definite in talks of hours needed for someone to master out specially poker.This doesnt only talks about basics or combinations but also you do need to learn how to bluff or something that correlates with
emotions and stuffs.Poker is something that really needs strategy and knowledge and skills and speaking with with alternative to poker then this is something in related with other card games too but if not then
stick to those luck based type of games that we do have currently in the market.

[Lucasgabd]

You could look into Crash/dual player Crash.

Even though most of it is chance, there is a degree of psychology involved because if you are able to cash out at just the right time you can often reap bonuses on top of your win (for being one of the last people to cash out before the crash).

I wouldn't touch the NFT games that other people are touting, though.

in your opinion what are the problems with the NFT games?
many are pretty good, fun to play and paying people for months now.

probably many more will come in the next months and years too

[HUSTLER]

Poker is a game in which math is heavily involved in weighting odds and understanding the risks and rewards on a certain situation, particularly Texas Hold'em has been studied over and over and many of the great players are also kind of chess masters in terms of ability. However, the OP saying that poker has been "solved by algorithms" does not make any sense. An algorithm can estimate odds probably better than any person, but estimating odds is not enough to win systematically

[gagux123]

Hey guys,

what do yout think about a new game, which involves both luck and skill like poker? Is there already such an alternative on the market? The problem with poker is that it is already solved by algorithms. Sure, there are still some players, but not as much as in the old glory times...

Edit: I'm just regarding games that you can play PvP and not against a house-edge-casino..

Well, I think the word "poker" is too generic, given the fact that there are many types of games in poker.

Regarding luck and skill, I believe so, this may even have a correlation, the simple fact that there is randomness in the act of players receiving cards (I don't know if this is a random walk) and I believe that it also involves strategy because of the fact that, you can "cheat" and bluff your opponents during the game.

[STT]

The problem with poker is that it is already solved by algorithms.

This is not really true but I will mention it to someone I know who completed a maths degree, they do play Poker and I do think there is an advantage to considering the weighting as you mention but its not the entire game.  Its important in poker not to be too predictable maybe for this reason, if the opponents can work out your progression then you will have worse odds of winning as they will not challenge when you have good cards etc.   The trick is to not be linear in your play, a computer will perform this better I agree but Poker is about the people playing not really precise odd calculation.   
  If you want really random I guess you have to be in horse racing or something but you are then required to judge the horses but at least its going to be natural dynamics.   All games can have some maths applied, Poker is quite open compared to some.

[btc78]

You could look into Crash/dual player Crash.

Even though most of it is chance, there is a degree of psychology involved because if you are able to cash out at just the right time you can often reap bonuses on top of your win (for being one of the last people to cash out before the crash).

I wouldn't touch the NFT games that other people are touting, though.

in your opinion what are the problems with the NFT games?
many are pretty good, fun to play and paying people for months now.

probably many more will come in the next months and years too

we still don't know what NFT games future , I remember that there are a very famous Crypto Game in the past called
"Kryptokitty"  in which many cryptonians also made some good profit there but now where's the game?

But this NFT games are worth to play if you are part of the early players because most of it are just a short time profiting .

[kingangel]

Even if poker's solved easily by algorithms, it doesn't mean that it's easy, it's not like every player is a Rain Man that can easily count the cards and the numbers. So I think it's still as good as it is because it's as hard as it is to mentally compute what's happening in the table and you also have to go mind the bluffing and betting pressures

[Beparanf]

this is interesting ethereumhunter
mastering of any activity takes time and hours of practice
even though you can learn how to be an average poker player in a couple of weeks, or maybe even days, mastering it will probably take years, some say it takes 10,000 hours to master any craft

As long we are persistent to study and make doing it as a practice we can probably do it and master it. When it comes in gambling now matter how good we are there will be different approach in every situations we should know how to decide in every approach of our opponent or what cards make come to us and thru experience we can learn and win on it.

[CDC AP]

I see that there are more talks about the asian types of poker played in east and south east asia, also in south asia. I am curious as to whether there are also variants of poker or other card games that can be found on other parts of the world such as in Europe or the Americas also in Africa and Russia. Maybe there would be some website out there that is not popular but have the compilation of many different card games aside from poker.

[wxa7115]

this is interesting ethereumhunter
mastering of any activity takes time and hours of practice
even though you can learn how to be an average poker player in a couple of weeks, or maybe even days, mastering it will probably take years, some say it takes 10,000 hours to master any craft

This depends on the ceiling of the activity, there are activities in which there does not seem to be a ceiling at all or it is too far for most people to reach, in those instances you are right, it is going to take a significant amount of time for anyone to become a master at the activity.

However while poker is by no means an easy game to learn and to play the randomness aspect of it which dominates it lowers the ceiling as now not everything is about your skill, and as such it should take less time to master it and play at a high enough level.

[Fortify]

Hey guys,

what do yout think about a new game, which involves both luck and skill like poker? Is there already such an alternative on the market? The problem with poker is that it is already solved by algorithms. Sure, there are still some players, but not as much as in the old glory times...

Edit: I'm just regarding games that you can play PvP and not against a house-edge-casino..

Poker is not "already solved by algorithms" and that goes a long way to explain why it is still so popular. When you are playing between several players then bluffing, which is outside the bounds of any algorithm calculation, can often come into play. If people see you playing a really tight game, then they expect that you are sticking to pot odds and will raise above the point where mathematically it makes sense for you to stick in the hand. There are a huge number of players online, many tens of thousands at any moment in time - definitely more than in the past, you just need to know where the busiest sites are. Anyway, if you're looking to create a new game then maybe come up with some idea similar to Chess which also has many billions of possible combinations to victory.

[passwordnow]

I see that there are more talks about the asian types of poker played in east and south east asia, also in south asia. I am curious as to whether there are also variants of poker or other card games that can be found on other parts of the world such as in Europe or the Americas also in Africa and Russia. Maybe there would be some website out there that is not popular but have the compilation of many different card games aside from poker.

By doing a quick search, you'll find some information that you're looking for and maybe this is what you're looking for. That goes for different type of pokers.
https://www.gamblingsites.org/poker/games/

And for the different type of card games. Actually, there are many of them but by quick search, these are the results.
https://www.solitaire365.com/tips/types-of-card-games
https://invisioncommunity.co.uk/7-different-types-of-card-games/

[Hamphser]

I see that there are more talks about the asian types of poker played in east and south east asia, also in south asia. I am curious as to whether there are also variants of poker or other card games that can be found on other parts of the world such as in Europe or the Americas also in Africa and Russia. Maybe there would be some website out there that is not popular but have the compilation of many different card games aside from poker.

There are various variants of poker.

    Texas Hold'em. Texas Hold'em is by far the most well-known version of poker available today. ...
    Omaha High. Omaha High is usually just referred to as Omaha. ...
    Omaha Hi/Lo. ...
    Seven Card Stud. ...
    Razz. ...
    Five Card Draw. ...
    Deuce to Seven Triple Draw. ...
    Badugi.
 

etc.
Source: https://www.gamblingsites.org/poker/games/

There are other variants which is only known on local country.

[SmokerFace]

I will suggest you sports betting or teen patti that's what i'm hearing from the youtube ads these days while watching indian comedy channels.
It's similar to poker because i could see the cards but haven't tried the game, I've played Texas holdem but not teen patti.