Transgender on MMA

[DU18]

For me it's not fair because it would be unfair for them that in terms of strength, they either have the advantage or disadvantage, I mean South Park did a great episode about letting the Trans community join the same league, I say, we give them their own league like how we separate men and women's league, they should have their own league to compete.

I also think that transgender people shouldn't be allowed to compete against men or women, because obviously that would be very confusing and unfair, even though he's transgender but he still has the same physique and strength as a man so when he beats a woman like he does made by Alana McLaughlin in the game, it was clearly not a fair match at all.
 I'm not even sure the male fighters will want to fight him in the arena , so it would be better if they were given their own league of transgender people.

[fortunecrypto]

I don't care if the females don't care. It is their league. If they don't protest this, why would anybody else care? They went full woke, now it is the pay back time. If this continues, those trans people soon will overtake female sports and you won't find a born female participant. Since I don't even watch any female sports other than the beach volleyball, nothing of value has been lost. Beach volleyball is however, my red line. If those freaks (no offense to my trans friends) manage to make their way to that, I might join the protests.

They may soon cross the line, we already have it in the Olympics and we have it in Miss Universe, so they are taking over where a woman is dominating, they should create their own sports organizations, why invade the territory of women, we should protest fairness in the sport, even if they are backed by science that they can compete it's hard to take that logic, in the back of our minds we all know that the match is not equal.

[Pierre 2]

Everyone knows the fact that male muscles work sort of different which makes them easily tougher or stronger. Personally I don't mind if male feels female but I am not convinced such equality, not checking biological differences. I sometimes think that maybe transexuals should have their own type of competition because I don't want to see them abused either. It is very complicated situation and hard to say any definite answer. But letting them compete with females is obvious mistake.

[Yaunfitda]

How about the testosterone level of the trans? Still predominant I guess so even if you say that they are in the same weight and height, she got an advantage already since this is the DNA that really separates the men from women.

This is probably some marketing ploy in part of the organisation, to attract viewership who are curious to see what will be the result of such match.

[OgNasty]

Absolutely disgusting what society is saying is alright these days. This bitch of a man needs to stop beating up women for money and come to the realization that you can cut off your dick but that doesn’t make you a women. These liberal mental illnesses have gotten way out of hand. How far are we gonna let these idiots drag down our society and race?

[alegotardo]

this is the fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8XEtqNS3XE

this is just the fight of Alana Mclaughlin vs Celine Provost recently, the fight isn't on sports bet sites though, it's from Combate Global but if it was, it's a sure-win bet. the fight sparks a lot of debate in social media about its fairness because and it might raise your eyebrows as well because history is that Alana Mclaughlin was once a US Army special force to which his real name is Alan Mclughin.

I also think it's unfair.

As much as medicine has currently advanced to "remove" all testosterone from an "ex-man" and it's also possible to carry out tests to prove it, I believe that the physical form of a trans person will never be the same as that of a person who has always been a woman for life. It's unfair.

Anyway, the sport in general still needs to evolve a lot on this issue and this will be controversial for a few more years, let's follow up.

[Oasisman]

That's weird. He transformed his body into a woman but still wants to participate in a combat sport. Why don't he retain his natural born gender.
No matter how the science have transformed him into a woman, what tissues and internal parts have been changed, still that's a body of man which is basically much stronger than the women.

I'm not against trans or whatever they call it the 3rd gender should know there place and limits.

[imstillthebest]

so this match was supposed to be all girls but there is one that is rumored to be a guy ?
but we cannot say that it was a sure win for him because there are also girls that are stronger than men but before it , i dont think they will allow the match if found out that the other competitant was a male .
 in a pro match like mma they will do all necesary test and they will found out the real gender of each other . afterall i voted for not fair in the poll

[DoublerHunter]

Absolutely disgusting what society is saying is alright these days. This bitch of a man needs to stop beating up women for money and come to the realization that you can cut off your dick but that doesn’t make you a women. These liberal mental illnesses have gotten way out of hand. How far are we gonna let these idiots drag down our society and race?

^ LOL, definitely right. It is totally different with the strength of the women compared to the transgender women, they are still in a man's strength and nothing will change. I don't know why they let this happen, it totally unfair to the women's side if this will continue. It should be a transgender vs transgender match, not this. If they will let this happen on the next match, there should be a big protest from the women athlete, and this obviously not be tolerated in society, it is totally a wrong match.

[danherbias07]

Does the real woman know she will be up against a transgender? Did she agree with it? If that's the case then it won't be a problem. She may want to prove women are stronger than men.
Even Ronda in her prime will have a hard time if it is a man he will be fighting with.
First, they will have almost the same weight, height, and reach to make a match. But there's a big difference if in his/her past life he was a man and was built already. There should be a different league or bracket for them. They may only have a problem with the amount of fighters.

[Saint-loup]

I don't care if the females don't care. It is their league. If they don't protest this, why would anybody else care? They went full woke, now it is the pay back time. If this continues, those trans people soon will overtake female sports and you won't find a born female participant. Since I don't even watch any female sports other than the beach volleyball, nothing of value has been lost. Beach volleyball is however, my red line. If those freaks (no offense to my trans friends) manage to make their way to that, I might join the protests.

So in brief you don't care until it concerns a female sport you like... But aren't you uncomfortable to see a (transgender) man beating a woman with his fists, his elbows, his knees and his legs? I found that horrible, she heavily bled from her mouth at the end of the fight. I feel sad for Celine Provost, I hope she won't be too much psychologically affected.  

[mindrust]

I don't care if the females don't care. It is their league. If they don't protest this, why would anybody else care? They went full woke, now it is the pay back time. If this continues, those trans people soon will overtake female sports and you won't find a born female participant. Since I don't even watch any female sports other than the beach volleyball, nothing of value has been lost. Beach volleyball is however, my red line. If those freaks (no offense to my trans friends) manage to make their way to that, I might join the protests.

So in brief you don't care until it concerns a female sport you like... But aren't you uncomfortable to see a (transgender) man beating a woman with his fists, his elbows, his knees and his legs? I found that horrible, she heavily bled from her mouth at the end of the fight. I feel sad for Celine Provost, I hope she won't be too much psychologically affected.  

Of course I find it horrible. Read my post again. It should be the females that are getting beaten by those shemale people should protest first. I find it horrible but what if those women like it? Maybe they like to get beaten by them shemale people. If that's what they want, then I say fuck it.

I can't save suicidal people from committing suicides.



Dayum.

[Taskford]

this is the fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8XEtqNS3XE

this is just the fight of Alana Mclaughlin vs Celine Provost recently, the fight isn't on sports bet sites though, it's from Combate Global but if it was, it's a sure-win bet. the fight sparks a lot of debate in social media about its fairness because and it might raise your eyebrows as well because history is that Alana Mclaughlin was once a US Army special force to which his real name is Alan Mclughin.

Eventhough her opponent is trained fighter but the fact that she's a past male and trained at army special force then its so unfair to let him fight on girls category since its really huge disadvantage for the real girls to fight him knowing how strong the boys compare to girls if we talk about physical combat. Maybe its best they shouldn't let She-males fight with the straight girls so that we can see the real fairness of the match.

[Saisher]

The majority wins in this forum and on media, people are voting it's not fair and will not be fair, this is not fair for natural-born women to compete against transgender, the transgender will have a psychological advantage over a woman in a match, their opponent will think that they are fighting a man, the bone structure never change even if they change the hormone, they will still have the strength of a man.

[Vaculin]

Honestly, I have no idea about this kind of fight happening.

Well, I'm not against the Trans or the LGBT, they have their life and they want to be happy. I'm just surprised, and as I was watching the highlights shared by OP, these MMA fighters look like males.

So how do this classified under? is it on Male or Female competition? please educate me, I really have no idea.

[aioc]

this is the fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8XEtqNS3XE

this is just the fight of Alana Mclaughlin vs Celine Provost recently, the fight isn't on sports bet sites though, it's from Combate Global but if it was, it's a sure-win bet. the fight sparks a lot of debate in social media about its fairness because and it might raise your eyebrows as well because history is that Alana Mclaughlin was once a US Army special force to which his real name is Alan Mclughin.

I have high respect for women and men should not hurt women emotionally and physically, but I cannot stomach to see a transgender fight a real woman, all I see is a man hurting a woman, the power is still there and the advantage is very evident.
If I am a woman and I am about to fight a transgender I will decline and protest and leave the organization, I have to protect myself, there's a clear advantage and I could be seriously hurt.

[acroman08]

Honestly, I have no idea about this kind of fight happening.

it probably wasn't heavily reported that's probably why you missed it. Now that you know about it, I suggest reading the fights about Fallon Fox(a trans woman MMA fighter).

So how do this classified under? is it on Male or Female competition? please educate me, I really have no idea.

Nope, not a female vs male competition. the fight between Alana McLaughlin and Celine Provost is considered a fight in the woman's category. as ridiculous as it is, it is happening and there are people pushing for it to be normalized.

[bryant.coleman]

Women are always the biggest supporters of left-liberal and LGBTQ propaganda. Now they are getting the taste of their own medicine. Personally I don't care, since I hardly ever watch any women's sport other than beach handball, beach volleyball and waterpolo. But if someone asks my personal opinion, then I would say that these trans athletes should compete in men's category rather than women's. They may consider themselves as women, but their physical attributes are still similar to those of male gender. 

[Kittygalore]

Why would they be on the same class? There's men and women's class for MMA so why can they be in there? Shouldn't they have their own because I think it's the true equality, I mean they wouldn't classify their gender as men or women so why on their class right?

[Maus0728]

I don't care if the females don't care. ...[snip]

So in brief you don't care until it concerns a female sport you like... But aren't you uncomfortable to see a (transgender) man beating a woman with his fists, his elbows, his knees and his legs? I found that horrible, she heavily bled from her mouth at the end of the fight. I feel sad for Celine Provost, I hope she won't be too much psychologically affected.  

Well, @mindrust does have a fair point due to the fact that the female participant had an option whether or not to participate. While I know that this is not ethically and morally correct due to some biological differences especially when it comes to their bone density where most of them does not get affected and change even if you undergo with to an operation, still this is a business where the money comes in.

The point here is that the people behind this event were the ones who allowed them to have a/an fair unfair fight in the first place. And this simply means that once money is involved in such a firm, ethics will be left aside. What do you expect from a bUsineSS' point of view?