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September 16, 2021, 03:51:37 AM
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Hello mga kabayan, nagulat lang ako kasi ganito yung pagopen ko ng app.

I had an incoming transaction from Bestchange weekly btc payment. But this appear on my coinsph. So I was shocked. They are requiring now to input the senders information, now what is the best course of action for this? Any suggestion, Im planning to change my receiving address for my weekly payment.






I highly appreciate for those whom response. Also if there are bestchange signature participants with the same situation like me hope you can help me with this.



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September 16, 2021, 05:09:18 AM
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may Update ba sila recently? nag checheck ako now wala namang email or something sa site regarding this.

pero kung nag start sila kahapon September 15 para sa bagong policy na to eh malamang sa weekends pa mag rereflect sa karamihan dahil dun ang payday ng mas maraming pinoy na nasa campaigns and malamang gumagamit ng coins.ph.

na try mo ba i Fill tong part na to Kabayan?



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September 16, 2021, 05:11:30 AM
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Nakaka panibago naman itong new features na naman ni coins parang ginagawa nila is parang sa coins to coins user lang kasi need pa ng information, para sakin is mag palit kana lang ng wallet you can use the electrum wallet tapos gawa ka nalang ng legacy address you can check this thread na inibahagi ko https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5339159.msg57063324#msg57063324


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September 16, 2021, 05:36:41 AM
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na try mo ba i Fill tong part na to Kabayan?
Kahit technically di sakin galing and from BestChange. Its fine with me, as long as walang problema kung sakali gawin ko to. Iniisip ko lang is baka sabihin eh sinungaling ako.

kesa sa coins mapunta or else gamit ka ng exodus wallet din if ayaw mo ng electrum. This is lang ung ma recommend ko.
I have a spare wallet ready and will request a change of btc address na. Worry ko lang is tong pending payment. Sayang din to ah. Haha

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September 16, 2021, 05:50:30 AM
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na try mo ba i Fill tong part na to Kabayan?
Kahit technically di sakin galing and from BestChange. Its fine with me, as long as walang problema kung sakali gawin ko to. Iniisip ko lang is baka sabihin eh sinungaling ako.


Sabagay may POint ka bata mas maging masama pa ang implikasyon since parang inaako mong ikaw nag sesend sa sarili mo , pero parang ganon din naman talaga dba kabayan? kasi sayo naman talaga yang funds so tingin ko medyo tolerable na akuin mong ikaw nag sesend( but of course opinion ko lang yan)

actually meron din akong case sa coins in which di kona nakuha funds ko, halos ganitong sitwasyon din dahil merong nag send sakin ng funds and hiningian din nila ako ng patunay kung kilala ko yong tao eh wallet to wallet sending lang kaya di ko na na claim though maliit na amount lang pero nakakapanghinayang din.

pero sana merong sumagot na ibang gumagamit ng coins.ph dito na kasama mo sa bestchange kung same experience din sila now, kasi parang lumalabas bagong update to kagabi or kahapon kasi nag send pako nung isang araw galing exchange wala naman ganitong hiningi.









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September 16, 2021, 08:09:13 AM
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Bagong policy ata nila, well, didn't use coins.ph for a while. Tulad ito sa ibang exchange policy na need na ng information after recieving certain amount ng btc/fund.

Anu nakalagay na options dun sa may source exchange, baka pwede manual input at pwede mong ilagay name ng bestchange as source tapus first at last name best-change.

Pero try mo munang mag tanong sa support nila regarding dito, mahirap na baka mang hingi din sila ng other information ng sender (bestchange) mas lalo mong di makukuha funds mo.
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Alinsunod yan sa FATF Travel Rule kung saan kailangan kolektahin ng Virtual Assets Service Providers (VASP) na kagaya ng Coins yung personal information ng sender at recipient. Noong 2019 pa sinama ng FATF yung mga crypto companies/VASPs sa Travel Rule na datiy para sa mga financial institutions lang gaya ng bangko. Start ng 2020, pinapatupad na din yan ng iba't ibang bansa (lalo na yung mga kabilang sa G20) bilang parte ng AML.

Kakabisita ko lang sa website nila at eto na nga may write na ang Coins - How does the Travel Rule affect external transfers?
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September 16, 2021, 01:42:17 PM
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I have a spare wallet ready and will request a change of btc address na. Worry ko lang is tong pending payment. Sayang din to ah. Haha
Have you tried converting your Bitcoin to Php even though there's a warning of a pending status?

I already converted my Bitcoin to Php after seeing a balance in my wallet after the Bestchange reward transaction get confirmed and I successfully transfer it into my Gcash account ready for withdrawal and I think there's no issue I encounter so far, it might be just for now maybe and I don't know in the next transaction.  Sa tingin ko hindi masasayang young sayo, you can still able to convert it and withdraw funds for a while and ignore the notification pop up.  Nagtaka din kasi ako kanina after receiving my reward from Bestchange, maybe as for now just ignore the additional requirement.

I tend to agree we need to request a new receiving Bitcoin address parang naging kumplikado na si Coins.ph sa mga external transaction.

...didn't use coins.ph for a while.
Anong ginamit mo sa pag convert Bitcoin to cash?  Any alternative to Coins.ph?

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September 16, 2021, 02:12:02 PM
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Hi guys thanks for everyone's input. Naconvert mo na siya and filled up bestchange as others. But I still request to the bestchange campaign to change my request address. Kakabwisit na ang coinsph, lagi na lang may changes and strict rules. Alam ko na sumusunod lang sila, pero kakaiba kasi implementation nila. Sometimes maiinis ka na lang.

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Hi guys thanks for everyone's input. Naconvert mo na siya and filled up bestchange as others. But I still request to the bestchange campaign to change my request address. Kakabwisit na ang coinsph, lagi na lang may changes and strict rules. Alam ko na sumusunod lang sila, pero kakaiba kasi implementation nila. Sometimes maiinis ka na lang.
Ang nakakabahala diyan eh kung lahat nalang ng transaction ay kailangang ganito ang mangyayari parang Palawan Pera Padala lang ah dapat naka-indicate relationship sa sender/receiver at kung ano ang paggagamitan. Well, it's their company pero dapat meron ding mga reconsideration kung ano yung pwede at hindi pero parang lahat papunta doon itong ginagawa ng coins.ph tiyak ko ito lang ang simula tapos yung iba susunod din.
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Ang nakakabahala diyan eh kung lahat nalang ng transaction ay kailangang ganito ang mangyayari parang Palawan Pera Padala lang ah dapat naka-indicate relationship sa sender/receiver at kung ano ang paggagamitan. Well, it's their company pero dapat meron ding mga reconsideration kung ano yung pwede at hindi pero parang lahat papunta doon itong ginagawa ng coins.ph tiyak ko ito lang ang simula tapos yung iba susunod din.

As with any other company, expect the worst when it comes to AML/KYC and ung requirements. Alam kong sobrang hassle and minsan risky, pero may rason kung bakit sobrang pinupush ng mga more "hardcore" bitcoiners ang peer-to-peer exchanges.

Lalo na ngayong parang kahit paghinga natin gustong i-tax ng gobyerno.

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As with any other company, expect the worst when it comes to AML/KYC and ung requirements. Alam kong sobrang hassle and minsan risky, pero may rason kung bakit sobrang pinupush ng mga more "hardcore" bitcoiners ang peer-to-peer exchanges.

Lalo na ngayong parang kahit paghinga natin gustong i-tax ng gobyerno.
Expected na yata kasi hindi lang naman nangyayari sa Pilipinas ang ganitong isyu kasi internationally kahit ang ibang prominenteng mga kompanya was being tasked to do so.

Hindi ko alam kung ang bipartisan infrastructure bill ng US still exclude DEXs at mga p2p marketplace kasi may punto rin ito sa ibang mga bansa kung US decide not to do so, mostly kasi ang ibang mga nasyon ay sumusunod lang sa trajectory ng US laws(correct me if I'm wrong).
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September 17, 2021, 12:41:39 AM
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Nag try ako mag send ng bitcoin from electrum to coins.ph kahapon para malaman ko kung meron na silang hihinging details tungkol sa sender pero fortunately wala naman.

Nabasa ko sa announcement ng coins na 50k above from external wallet kailangan na mag provide ng details ng sender. Pero bakit kay op mababa lang naman pero hiningian sya ng coins? Medyo curious lang ako.

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September 17, 2021, 08:28:47 AM
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Naconvert mo na siya and filled up bestchange as others.
Just to be clear, ginawa mo ba yung sinuggest ni @bL4nkcode ["tungkol sa first and last name"] or dun sa "Source Exchange", there's an "Others" option?

Nabasa ko sa announcement ng coins na 50k above from external wallet kailangan na mag provide ng details ng sender. Pero bakit kay op mababa lang naman pero hiningian sya ng coins? Medyo curious lang ako.
Base dun sa ginamit nilang words na "amounting to", I believe automatically included na yung previous transaction history ni @cryptoaddictchie.
- Hindi lang yung huling transaction.

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September 17, 2021, 08:59:47 AM
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Just saw this sa crypto ph Facebook group. Mukhang magiging mas common occurrence na nga talaga talaga. So sa mga walang balak mag comply, alam niyo na.


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September 17, 2021, 10:04:35 AM
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Hi guys thanks for everyone's input. Naconvert mo na siya and filled up bestchange as others. But I still request to the bestchange campaign to change my request address. Kakabwisit na ang coinsph, lagi na lang may changes and strict rules. Alam ko na sumusunod lang sila, pero kakaiba kasi implementation nila. Sometimes maiinis ka na lang.
May ibang ph exchanges pa naman kaso nga lang kulang sila sa traction, sa susunod nyan pag may interview ka kapag pinatupad ulit nila yung yearly review ng KYC. Pwede mo nalang sabihing direkta kung saan galing yung source mo tulad ng signature campaign, tingin ko aware sila sa reason na yun. Nakakainis talaga kapag may ganito silang rule pero wala din sila talagang magagawa kasi sumusunod lang din sila.

Just saw this sa crypto ph Facebook group. Mukhang magiging mas common occurrence na nga talaga talaga. So sa mga walang balak mag comply, alam niyo na.
No choice na kundi mag upgrade ng accounts o di kaya mag comply kapag gusto pa gamitin ang coins.ph. Gamit ko pa rin sila pero sa mga loading and bills purposes nalang talaga at sa mga altcoins nalang nila.

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September 17, 2021, 12:55:15 PM
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Anong ginamit mo sa pag convert Bitcoin to cash?  Any alternative to Coins.ph?
Binance P2P ginagamit ko, rekta from campaign's payment -> personal wallet -> binance. Laki pa ng savings dahil sa higher rates at fee lalo na may fee pa ang pag send from coins to UB or coins to gcash since yang dalawa ang gamit ko pang cashout sa atm.
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September 17, 2021, 01:43:02 PM
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Anong ginamit mo sa pag convert Bitcoin to cash?  Any alternative to Coins.ph?
Binance P2P would be your best bet! Matagal ko nang hindi ginagamit yang coins.ph simula nung naintroduce ng Binance yung fiat Philippine peso conversion nila kasi mas okay pa spread. May personal na kakilala lang din kasi ako pwedeng i-chat sa messenger tapos direct crypto to fiat na agad.

Mas goods kung gagamit na din kayo ng alternative like Unionbank or Gcash as a receiving wallet for fiat and Electrum or Bluewallet for receiving crypto..

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September 17, 2021, 09:26:36 PM
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Anong ginamit mo sa pag convert Bitcoin to cash?  Any alternative to Coins.ph?
Binance P2P would be your best bet! Matagal ko nang hindi ginagamit yang coins.ph simula nung naintroduce ng Binance yung fiat Philippine peso conversion nila kasi mas okay pa spread. May personal na kakilala lang din kasi ako pwedeng i-chat sa messenger tapos direct crypto to fiat na agad.

Mas goods kung gagamit na din kayo ng alternative like Unionbank or Gcash as a receiving wallet for fiat and Electrum or Bluewallet for receiving crypto..

Sa ngayon, mukhang mapapadalas na ang gamit natin ng Biannce P2P dahil hindi na ito gaano ka strikto gaya ng coins.ph. Siguro naman hindi sila magagaya ng coins.ph dahil hindi na sila sakup ng BSP. Merong ring alternatives na nabasa at na try ko pa noon, iyon at mag transac from exchange to your dollar account.

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September 17, 2021, 11:33:50 PM
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Ngayon ko lang ito nakita, at kakatransact ko lang pero wala naman lumabas na ganito siguro need na iupdate ang coinsph ko, pero parang nakakatakot naman ito lalo na pag medyo malaki ang kukunin mo. Anyway, buti nalang may option the sending to myself, especially if magwiwithdraw ka ng mga reward mo wag lang sana mag ask ng supporting documents at Mukang naghihigpit naren talaga sila ngayon.

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