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March 19, 2022, 08:01:44 PM
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At now, a total of 236 of my reports remain unhandled. I'm wondering what the reason is, but once you answer my question then it would be best if I don't deal with spam posts there anymore and stop reporting them

I think that best approach is to temporary stop making reports similar to those unhandled ones and watch these ones for the next 30 days. In case that in 30 days they are still not handled this means that maybe you should avoid completely such reports. I learned that the hard way, after making 1500+ reports from Press board, which were never handled and now I have to carry with me forever a long queue of 1839 unhandled reports. (This is because you can't see in your report history the reports older than 30 days and mods can't see them anymore either.) Although that board is supposed to be for, as its own description says, "Notable press hits", it's not. A lot of spammers post there and nobody cares. The reports are never handled (you can take this also as a suggestion for avoiding making reports there too).

However, it's also possible that mods were just too busy lately and they will handle your reports, but not as soon as you make them. This is why I suggest to wait and see what happens with current unhandled reports.

[will keep spam hunting on other boards].

This is the spirit Smiley For example, Altcoins board is like cornucopia for spam busters.

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March 19, 2022, 08:13:58 PM
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I think that best approach is to temporary stop making reports similar to those unhandled ones and watch these ones for the next 30 days. In case that in 30 days they are still not handled this means that maybe you should avoid completely such reports. I learned that the hard way, after making 1500+ reports from Press board, which were never handled and now I have to carry with me forever a long queue of 1839 unhandled reports. (This is because you can't see in your report history the reports older than 30 days and mods can't see them anymore either.) Although that board is supposed to be for, as its own description says, "Notable press hits", it's not. A lot of spammers post there and nobody cares. The reports are never handled (you can take this also as a suggestion for avoiding making reports there too).

However, it's also possible that mods were just too busy lately and they will handle your reports, but not as soon as you make them. This is why I suggest to wait and see what happens with current unhandled reports.

[will keep spam hunting on other boards].

This is the spirit Smiley For example, Altcoins board is like cornucopia for spam busters.
Thanks for your suggestion, and now I'm going to stop doing it for the time being but it's still possible to report some nasty violations there.

As always, the altcoin board is like a rice bowl for spambusters and it really is the most popular place for spammers paradise where only a handful of quality posters take part in it. GazetaBitcoin, occasionally reporting spammers has become an addiction for me even for just a few posts. LOL

In the meantime, I will still wait for the results.

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March 19, 2022, 08:27:12 PM
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GazetaBitcoin, occasionally reporting spammers has become an addiction for me even for just a few posts. LOL

This may be difficult to understand for many people, but I totally understand you here. Two years ago I made 4000+ reports, last year I had 8000 and this year, from Jan 1st, almost 40.000. Yes, it's addictive. In some days I just stay and open in hundreds (sometimes thousands) of tabs the posts I intend to report and then, in the next day I just click on each tab the Submit" report button.

I remember that once I opened so many tabs that Firefox started to act laggy. I think I had more than 5000 tabs opened at that moment. Since then I don't open more than 2000-3000 tabs with future reports Smiley

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March 19, 2022, 11:31:52 PM
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IIRC, BadBear had posted

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Okay SM, you got me. I guess I have no choice but to come clean and admit that I have read posts from before the day I registered my account. No, I didn't use a time machine to read posts from the past, I just reviewed the forum archives to see posts from the past. Anyone can do this.
If the post is deleted by the author it's automatically marked as "Good" after a minute or two.
Do you have a source for this? Having to wait a minute for the status of a report to get updated is strange behavior. More importantly, a reporter's individual report stats are not necessarily important in these cases. What is important is that a mod sees the report, and has the opportunity to research the issue and take action.
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March 19, 2022, 11:47:36 PM
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Do you have a source for this?

I reported my own post and deleted it. It turned to "Good".

Having to wait a minute for the status of a report to get updated is strange behavior.

There are other places on this site where updates are not real-time so I don't find it "strange" at all.

Also the report page says: "When a post is deleted, reports for it will sometimes stay in unhandled status for some time before moving to handled status."

More importantly, a reporter's individual report stats are not necessarily important in these cases. What is important is that a mod sees the report, and has the opportunity to research the issue and take action.

I don't know what you're still babbling about. You made a claim (sorry, "remembered") that seemed to be incorrect so I checked. Mods can't see deleted posts anyway, nor should they take action on deleted posts, so whatever.
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April 14, 2022, 03:31:07 PM
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Period Feb 24 - Mar 26. In this period, 32347 reports handled as good, 458 handled as bad, 1756 unhandled.

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April 14, 2022, 04:38:56 PM
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Period Feb 24 - Mar 26. In this period, 32347 reports handled as good, 458 handled as bad, 1756 unhandled.
For about 32347 reports that are was handled as good in relation to the bad reports the bad reports isnt much i guess.
But what me wonders is the unhandled reports since the last updates its 4 times higher as the last one .
Dont know maybe there are some reports that normaly shouldnt be reportet and the mods dont get to it.
I guess if that is the case a few reporters should be thinking about what they reporting , thats just my opinion but i can be wrong.

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April 14, 2022, 05:02:50 PM
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For about 32347 reports that are was handled as good in relation to the bad reports the bad reports isnt much i guess.
But what me wonders is the unhandled reports since the last updates its 4 times higher as the last one .
Dont know maybe there are some reports that normaly shouldnt be reportet and the mods dont get to it.
I guess if that is the case a few reporters should be thinking about what they reporting , thats just my opinion but i can be wrong.


I am not entirely sure about the unhandled reports either, but I would say that it is due to:

1) The moderators don't see enough reason to act on the report or mark it as bad.
2) Maybe for lack of time or some other reason they remain unhandled. Although I thik of this second option as less likely.

But I do not agree with what you have said that I have put in bold. If moderators thought that those reports should not have been made, they would have marked them as bad. In any case, I suppose hilarious or some other moderator will clarify this.


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April 14, 2022, 05:42:06 PM
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For about 32347 reports that are was handled as good in relation to the bad reports the bad reports isnt much i guess.
But what me wonders is the unhandled reports since the last updates its 4 times higher as the last one .
Dont know maybe there are some reports that normaly shouldnt be reportet and the mods dont get to it.
I guess if that is the case a few reporters should be thinking about what they reporting , thats just my opinion but i can be wrong.

A large number of unhandled reports may be due to someone trying report old posts in topics with a lot of discussion. For example, a low-value post was written, someone gave an answer to it, a heated discussion ensued. I've heard that when a low-value post is deleted, then all the posts citing it, it seems, are also deleted. If a moderator sees that a low-value post has many replies, he will leave the discussion intact and will not process the report, marking it as unhandled.

One of the versions.
There's nothing to see here, it's just that the amount of monthly reports coming in is much more than what the active mods can handle because most of the cases are handled manually, they're not bots I never expected them to handle all monthly reported cases, most of my last month reports were left unhandled I guess mod didn't pick it up

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There's nothing to see here, it's just that the amount of monthly reports coming in is much more than what the active mods can handle because most of the cases are handled manually, they're not bots I never expected them to handle all monthly reported cases, most of my last month reports were left unhandled I guess mod didn't pick it up

This is hardly the true reason for so many unhandled.
It really depends on when the reports were made, and when the cutoff for the reporting period was. For example, if someone happened to make many reports shortly before the reporting cutoff, it is possible that the mods simply had not yet had time to handle the reports.

A useful piece of additional context would be of the ~1700 unhandled reports, how many were handled as of 48 hours after the reporting period ended.

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April 17, 2022, 01:00:27 PM
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There's nothing to see here, it's just that the amount of monthly reports coming in is much more than what the active mods can handle because most of the cases are handled manually, they're not bots I never expected them to handle all monthly reported cases, most of my last month reports were left unhandled I guess mod didn't pick it up
There are specific situations where leaving a report unhandled is actually the best course of action. Also, as suggested theymos releases this data at a certain point, if a user has reported a tonne of posts just before theymos collects his stats, then they're going to be unhandled. I'd say most of our reports get handled within a few hours, and the unhandled reports are probably much lower than this figure.

It really depends on when the reports were made, and when the cutoff for the reporting period was. For example, if someone happened t make many reports shortly before the reporting cutoff, it is possible that the mods simply had not yet had time to handle the reports.
Right, which is very likely the case here.
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April 18, 2022, 09:32:09 AM
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There's nothing to see here, it's just that the amount of monthly reports coming in is much more than what the active mods can handle because most of the cases are handled manually, they're not bots I never expected them to handle all monthly reported cases, most of my last month reports were left unhandled I guess mod didn't pick it up
There are specific situations where leaving a report unhandled is actually the best course of action. Also, as suggested theymos releases this data at a certain point, if a user has reported a tonne of posts just before theymos collects his stats, then they're going to be unhandled. I'd say most of our reports get handled within a few hours, and the unhandled reports are probably much lower than this figure.
Isn't it true that unhandled cases aren't automatically revisited? Unless, if I'm correct, those cases are reported again.

I'm still not sure what you meant when you said that some cases are best left unhamdled

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April 18, 2022, 09:41:08 AM
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There's nothing to see here, it's just that the amount of monthly reports coming in is much more than what the active mods can handle because most of the cases are handled manually, they're not bots I never expected them to handle all monthly reported cases, most of my last month reports were left unhandled I guess mod didn't pick it up
There are specific situations where leaving a report unhandled is actually the best course of action. Also, as suggested theymos releases this data at a certain point, if a user has reported a tonne of posts just before theymos collects his stats, then they're going to be unhandled. I'd say most of our reports get handled within a few hours, and the unhandled reports are probably much lower than this figure.
Isn't it true that unhandled cases aren't automatically revisited? Unless, if I'm correct, those cases are reported again.

I'm still not sure what you meant when you said that some cases are best left unhamdled
I understand that is a mod actively decides to take no action on a report it will leave that mod's queue. Doing this is different than a mod simply not taking action on a report.

Presumably, theymos (and possibly other mods/admins) periodically pull reports containing all the unhandled reports that are no longer in any mod's queue and may revisit them and/or look for certain trends, and/or investigate if changes are needed, etc.
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April 18, 2022, 01:41:07 PM
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Unhandled reports might be revisited, since if the mod clicks ignore on a report, then that only ignores it for them. So, another moderator might see it in their report queue, and decide to act upon it. Although, once the period for displaying the report in queues is gone, then yeah unhandled reports aren't revisited, unless they're reported again in the future. As far as I know, if that happens, and it is then handled at a later date, it doesn't correct the initial report that was marked as unhandled. Although, I can't say I've ever monitored that, I'm just going on a logical assumption.

So, there's two ways of not handling a report. Either ignoring it (clicking "ignore" which removes it from your report queue) or by just ignoring it without actually clicking ignore, if that makes sense. So, the latter example would be not taking any action at all, whereas clicking ignore is technically an action which only really effects your report queue not anyone else's.

I'm still not sure what you meant when you said that some cases are best left unhamdled
I've been meaning to do a detailed write up on my reporting effectively thread on when unhandled reports are actually the logical way of handling a report. Just haven't got around to it yet. It's on my to do list for this year Cheesy.
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Period Mar 26 - Apr 25. In this period, 11164 reports handled as good, 551 handled as bad, 172 unhandled.

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Period Apr 25 - May 25. In this period, 6668 reports handled as good, 404 handled as bad, 151 unhandled.

Massive drop off in reports the past few months. Get reporting! Staff have to eat  Grin.

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Period May 25 - Jun 24. In this period, 4107 reports handled as good, 493 handled as bad, 235 unhandled.

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Period Jun 24 - Jul 24. In this period, 4333 reports handled as good, 218 handled as bad, 263 unhandled.

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August 13, 2022, 10:10:26 AM
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@Ratimov, imo if we were to remove all posts that could be reported as a supposed-violation for fluff posting for a signature campaign (usually below-average communication-via-English abilities) .. we would have many, many posts disappear.
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August 31, 2022, 09:46:08 AM
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@Ratimov, imo if we were to remove all posts that could be reported as a supposed-violation for fluff posting for a signature campaign (usually below-average communication-via-English abilities) .. we would have many, many posts disappear.

And that is a bad thing... How? If you need to fill your posts with a hard rethoric just to reach a quota; then maybe, you shouldn't do that post first place. It's always been said that it's not the same to post and get paid for posting; and to get paid for posting...

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