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April 19, 2023, 04:43:03 PM |
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Period Feb 19 - Mar 21. In this period, 16589 reports handled as good, 321 handled as bad, 167 unhandled.
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May 15, 2023, 07:35:41 AM |
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Period Mar 21 - Apr 20. In this period, 8685 reports handled as good, 202 handled as bad, 143 unhandled.
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June 06, 2023, 07:10:26 AM |
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Period Apr 20 - May 20. In this period, 2025 reports handled as good, 121 handled as bad, 150 unhandled.
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June 06, 2023, 10:49:08 AM |
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Period Apr 20 - May 20. In this period, 2025 reports handled as good, 121 handled as bad, 150 unhandled. 2000 sent reports per month. It's even worse than I expected. 2000 reports for 167,000 posts published during the same period on the forum. I wonder whether the quality of posts on the forum has increased dramatically, or whether reporting itself has finally died as an activity. Something tells me it's the second option. People are just reporting less and less. There's nothing in it for most people and it's time consuming and a never ending amount of stuff to report so most people just don't bother or quickly grow tired of it. That's why I think theymos should implement something like reporting badges with some small perks so there's at least some incentive.
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Rikafip
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June 06, 2023, 01:57:40 PM |
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Or cancel the latest innovations related to restrictions on sending reports older than 6 months.
Imho, that latest innovation actually makes sense because what's even point of reporting several years old post (unless its malware of course)? I might be wrong here, but seems to me that it was mainly used for the sort of stat padding and nothing else. That's why I think theymos should implement something like reporting badges with some small perks so there's at least some incentive. +1, that makes more sense than allowing reports of the old posts just for the sake of increasing post report number.
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June 06, 2023, 02:48:15 PM |
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That's why I think theymos should implement something like reporting badges with some small perks so there's at least some incentive.
theymos can deploy the badge anytime he wants. Problem is theymos does not want to do that. I recall that theymos wrote he does not want to deploy to many badges and make user profiles like rainbows. Sorry for the wait, when I went to implement this it ended up being quite a bit more of a can of worms than I originally thought because of opting out, preventing certain report-count-padding strategies, etc. It's still on my to-do list, but there are several things above it.
Meanwhile, we have [Userscript] Unofficial Bitcointalk Reporter Badges
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PowerGlove
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June 06, 2023, 04:56:51 PM |
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There's nothing in it for most people and it's time consuming and a never ending amount of stuff to report so most people just don't bother or quickly grow tired of it.
Yep, there's not a whole lot of incentive for most people to spend their time doing it. It's also one of those things that feels like "someone else" will pick up the slack, so it's not a big deal if you don't participate. I recently tried to dedicate more of my time to reporting, and I had my first experience with one of my reports being marked as "bad". That's cool, an opportunity to learn I guess (I like LoyceV's perspective on "bad" reports). But I was just getting started (only 197 reports) so I didn't have access to the view that would allow me to see which one it was. All I could do from my end was go through my local record of reports (I keep a text file) and then follow up on each of them (i.e. see which ones were handled and which ones weren't), to try to determine which one was "bad". I picked a small handful that I thought would be likely candidates, and I was pretty disappointed by what I found. For example, one of the reports was to do with a string of 6 posts, and the mod that handled it only merged the last two posts for some reason (by no logic that I could ascertain, each of them was short and only separated by a few minutes). Another was someone that posted the same thing twice in a row, except that the second post included an additional question, and the mod deleted the longer of the two posts. Maybe I'm super unlucky, but finding two cases like that after only checking ~10 of my reports doesn't exactly inspire confidence, you know? (That the mods are performing their duties with due care, that is.) Now that I'm aware that there's a non-negligible chance that my future reports will be quickly skimmed and then mishandled, I'm struggling to find the motivation to keep doing it... I don't think I'll pick it up again (I can't abide by sloppy moderation), but on a brighter note, if there's ever a consensus on how to motivate people to get into reporting (i.e. reporter badges, or something similar), then I'll happily donate the dev time required to implement it (I think reporter badges based on some variant of the "rMerit/rPoints" idea will end up working out quite nicely; some of my thoughts on that are here, and here).
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June 06, 2023, 08:51:50 PM |
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Period Apr 20 - May 20. In this period, 2025 reports handled as good, 121 handled as bad, 150 unhandled.
Thats for sure not much reports for one month and a little bit scary of that numbers and what we got the month before and all. Maybe its also because that the spring and nearly summertime has started in a lot of countries and people dont spend that much time on the Forum. I can say that i daily making some reports and whenever i see something i hit the report to moderator button.
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Sarah Azhari
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June 07, 2023, 12:03:08 AM |
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Period Apr 20 - May 20. In this period, 2025 reports handled as good, 121 handled as bad, 150 unhandled.
The reported post decreased for each month, Maybe the reporter have a busy, or maybe the psychological condition is the same as the Bitcoin price That's why I think theymos should implement something like reporting badges with some small perks so there's at least some incentive.
Is the member who has a reporter badge will be accused and will be hated? because who knows, the member whose post was deleted, getting not paid because of not enough weekly post quota, and they accused members who have reporter badges. And, I don't know why Administrator didn't update the statistic or top reporter again. it's been 2 years I can't see the update, maybe a post like that will make the reporter excited again to continue again his activity. (Because of human nature), there is a sense of pride if their name exists on the list.
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June 07, 2023, 05:39:48 AM Last edit: June 07, 2023, 05:59:17 AM by Rikafip |
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With such thinking, you can generally stoop to the point that let's not report any posts at all. Slippery slope. Reporting a post from 2015-2017 may not make sense, reporting a post from 2020 does make sense, as topics containing such posts are often still active, and if they become a little cleaner, no one will get worse from this. Forum won't become a worse place by deleting 3 years old posts, but I don't think it will become noticeably better either. At least not enough that its worth it to deal with those. After all, I don't think that only important metric is number of deleted posts, but also where and when those posts are written as well, but unfortunately that's info that we don't have access to. In my opinion, 1 report of a post written today by a signature campaign shitposter is worth more than 100 reports of old bumps and similar shitposts written 3 years ago by some low rank shitposter or paid thread bumper. And that's why I like this new change, because those who like to report can actually focus their energy on something that affects this forum much more. Yes, indeed, let's put on beautiful badges, and tons of shit will continue to lie on the forum. It turns out that the meaning of reporting is not to remove as much garbage as possible, but to stick some useless nonsense to the user that does not affect anything. Indeed, it makes a lot more sense.
Introducing badges would make people report more recently produced garbage (that's simply how things work as people like these kind of things) which in the end would make this forum much better place than removing posts written years ago. Keep in mind that you are still free to report old posts and they will get deleted unless you report it for one of the trivial reasons.
Is the member who has a reporter badge will be accused and will be hated?
because who knows, the member whose post was deleted, getting not paid because of not enough weekly post quota, and they accused members who have reporter badges
Reports are anonymous, no one except forum staff knows who reported which post.
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Rikafip
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June 07, 2023, 06:19:44 AM |
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It is worth discussing the meaning or meaninglessness of something only if it concerns everyone. If some activity is strictly voluntary, then why these arguments about whether it makes sense or not? You seem to keep forgetting that someone actually has to manually handle those reports, they are not automatically deleted. So its not only about those few who report old posts. With that being said, maybe forum staff concluded that moderators energy should be more focused at reports that affect members (and therefore forum) more, which are of those recently written posts instead spending a lot of their time going through thousands of reports each month that affect forum members very little, if anything. Now we see that no one else directs any energy anywhere. Nobody cares about these reports. Hence small incentive like report badge or something along those lines. Don't get me wrong, I personally don't care about the badges at all but I am pretty certain that would make people report way more so why not. Only problem is that chances of that happening are slim to none but who knows, stranger things have happened.
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June 07, 2023, 05:57:06 PM |
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I'm sure that many moderators are not at all averse to processing old reports and getting rid of various garbage.
I'm only going to speak for myself, but if you report an old post in the Fr section, I will probably handle it. If you report 10-20-100 old posts in important/interesting topics, I will probably handle them so that these topics are rid of parasite posts. But if you report 10-20-100 old posts in topics that have fallen into the abyss, I will send you a PM to ask you to stop, it's useless, nobody is going to read or reread these topics. And I'd feel like I am stealing Theymos
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June 08, 2023, 01:25:25 AM |
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Is the member who has a reporter badge will be accused and will be hated?
because who knows, the member whose post was deleted, getting not paid because of not enough weekly post quota, and they accused members who have reporter badges
Reports are anonymous, no one except forum staff knows who reported which post. Your reply is true but personally, I think Sarah Azhari implied about negative attitude towards forum members with reporter badges in general. Spammers, shit posters might not know who report their posts but when they lose their minds, they might pull their gun towards reporter-badged members. It is vague fear from Sarah but it is understandable. Hate reporters or not, they don't have many things to do against reporters.
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June 08, 2023, 01:34:08 AM |
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they might pull their gun towards reporter-badged members. It is vague fear from Sarah but it is understandable. Hate reporters or not, they don't have many things to do against reporters.
They can pull there guns , we are always ready to fight them and there is nothing to fear. With or without a reporter badged let them come and if they think they are treated wrong they can complain to the Moderators. If they are spamming , shitposters or anything that should be reported just report it , the community will be on your side.
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June 08, 2023, 06:14:48 AM |
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Your reply is true but personally, I think Sarah Azhari implied about negative attitude towards forum members with reporter badges in general. Reading her post again, might be that I misunderstood her concerns. Spammers, shit posters might not know who report their posts but when they lose their minds, they might pull their gun towards reporter-badged members.
I might be wrong here, but I really think that people who deserve the report post badge (those very few with a large amount of reports) would have no issues dealing with some heat from an ocassional shitposter who would be triggered enough go against anypne with a badge so I don't think that would be a problem either.
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June 08, 2023, 02:55:43 PM |
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For me, the most demotivating thing when it comes to reporting is if the offending user isn't properly dealt with. Therefore I now add more and more shitposters or chatbot plagiarism spammers to Ignore. That means I only report them once, and if they aren't banned, I don't waste my time on them anymore.
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July 14, 2023, 07:59:44 AM |
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Period May 20 - Jun 19. In this period, 1543 reports handled as good, 82 handled as bad, 133 unhandled.
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August 12, 2023, 05:51:27 AM |
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Period Jun 19 - Jul 19. In this period, 2232 reports handled as good, 71 handled as bad, 79 unhandled.
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September 13, 2023, 09:01:16 AM |
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Period Jul 19 - Aug 18. In this period, 2107 reports handled as good, 103 handled as bad, 182 unhandled.
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October 14, 2023, 07:28:05 AM |
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Period Aug 18 - Sep 17. In this period, 2205 reports handled as good, 53 handled as bad, 145 unhandled.
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