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September 16, 2021, 10:10:40 PM
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This is based on restrictions not just about the economy size or capability. If a country give more privilege to but doing mining and operation then more activities will come in because more investors that are planning on mining will go to the country and build there mining nodes for work to commence. Since America support Bitcoin but does not give it full activities based of task added service then mining operation will be lesser.

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September 17, 2021, 04:04:02 AM
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I wonder how people will explain both Salvador and Nigeria having ZERO nodes  Cheesy
Of course, nodes will be in places where people and businesses can afford to host one, that's why Africa has 16 nodes while Europe has thousands.
You should keep in mind that the listening nodes represent a small percentage of the entire bitcoin nodes (between 5% to 15%) and when you see counts per IP or any other metric, they are only considering these nodes not all bitcoin nodes.
The reality is that majority of bitcoin nodes run by individuals don't listen to incoming connections so these statistics don't cover them. But almost any node hosted on a cloud (mostly located in Europe) do listen and are included in statistics.

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September 17, 2021, 10:07:22 AM
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Hmm, nobody said a thing about the hashrate, so I don't know why you mentioned it
Because of the argument that Bitcoin is centralized due to the China's miners. Some folks will state this by adding that Chinese own the majority of the hash rate and since China is an authoritarian nation, their government rules those those who own the majority. While this isn't correct to conclude, they say their government essentially owns it.

It doesn't have to do with the thread, I just mentioned it, because the nodes' distribution isn't even such thing. It doesn't matter if all the nodes run in the USA, China or Germany. Running a node is more like a personal procedure in which you're having much more benefits than the network.

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September 17, 2021, 12:00:21 PM
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From the numbers I'd say that it's US that has unexpectedly low number of Bitcoin nodes, not that Germany would have too many.

I wonder how people will explain both Salvador and Nigeria having ZERO nodes  Cheesy

The logic is simple, assuming that both countries have shite internet connections - and this is to say nothing about connection downtimes - downloading a third of a TB in these countries, on your private home connection (because let's face it, do you really think you'll be allowed to host a node on academic faculty hardware?) will take simply too long, and the amount of GB that's passed around in the form of block messages that will follow makes the IDB unfeasible even if you stretch it across several weeks, you're node will always be dozens of blocks behind the tip.

There is no such a thing as "too many" nodes in a country, there is however a lack of nodes in too many places.

...there is such a thing as too many nodes in a particular ASN. e.g. an entire data center burns down or otherwise has an outage, and dozens of nodes go down with it.

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September 17, 2021, 12:15:39 PM
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Side note, but I just checked one of our clients that has offices here in NY, NV, and elsewhere in the US.

The parent company is in Canada. All of their internet here in the US comes from either local providers. Cable, Verizon, etc.
Every office has it's own local ISP, but the parent company pays the bills. So if you look up 3 of the 5 offices IP space here in the US, in any of the popular geo location databases they show as the parent company in Canada.

Never actually thought about it till this thread which made me go look.....

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September 18, 2021, 12:46:19 PM
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One reason can be having many could service and service providers in their country and quality of the services and connection can be another reason, Germany is providing service to the users of the other countries., So running more nodes there can be not surprising, there are also some other counties having strong and stable network and cloud providers but because Germany showed before that they do not have an unstable government to ban bitcoin one day and make everyone shocked running nodes there can be safer.

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September 20, 2021, 04:40:15 PM
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Does anyone actually have an evaluation of whether these are Bitcoin full nodes only or whether the number also include lightening nodes?
I ask because recently a few German youtubers with a larger reach have called for setting up lightening nodes. The current numbers could therefore be the result of this.
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