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Author Topic: DO I NEED TO LOOSE THE ONE I HAVE GOTTEN OR LOOK TO GAIN MORE?  (Read 347 times)
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September 22, 2021, 10:11:56 PM
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I think that this whole idea actually makes somewhat sense in a way, because if you think about it if you do anything in this world in order to gain something you need to make some sacrifices, if you want to make money you have to give money, if you want to learn you have to give time, if you want to to do anything you need to give something in return in some shape or form, but keep in minds they we have something a resource that we need to manage is time, because we don't know how much we got and therefore we need to manage it to the best we can.
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September 22, 2021, 10:24:01 PM
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Everyone’s wish is to have a good and dream future which is more brighter than any other thing else, but by so doing, some loose the ones they have gotten already while others tends to gain more and add to their fortunes, thereby making them more famous and relevant. The Bible said “Hold thou fast which thou has” so there is no justification for you to loose the things you have gotten but this don’t always stand as some people are ready to gain even the one which you have accumulated for yourself. In my life, I feel better to gain than loss because;
1.Winning and gaining is what am in this life for
2.  Gaining will make me more relevant in all endeavors than to loose
3.  For me to get engaged in many things, then my mindset is determined already
    on gains
4.  I say yes to the pains because no pain then no gain, therefore I should have
    more.


Please, do not use capital letters, is quite distasteful. I will just ignore your comment about the Bible - is not a self-help book nor a real guide for life, it is just a faith book.

Anyway, life is not about winning or improving or anything else... unless you want it to be about that. All that chatter about "rules of play" just for asking "should I take a risk?" which anyway can only have one answer "it depends".


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September 22, 2021, 10:27:09 PM
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Everyone’s wish is to have a good and dream future which is more brighter than any other thing else, but by so doing, some loose the ones they have gotten already while others tends to gain more and add to their fortunes, thereby making them more famous and relevant. The Bible said “Hold thou fast which thou has” so there is no justification for you to loose the things you have gotten but this don’t always stand as some people are ready to gain even the one which you have accumulated for yourself. In my life, I feel better to gain than loss because;
1.Winning and gaining is what am in this life for
2.  Gaining will make me more relevant in all endeavors than to loose
3.  For me to get engaged in many things, then my mindset is determined already
    on gains
4.  I say yes to the pains because no pain then no gain, therefore I should have
    more.


No need for such a dramatic and lengthy post for your concern.

If you have an active investment, whatever it is, just focus on your goal to make it successful and try to deal with any distractions, problems, struggles, etc. that you will encounter while on progress. That's the challenge there. You don't need to put lots of concerns in your mind that can affect your decision.

Just be comfortable and relax while working your way up.

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September 22, 2021, 11:09:56 PM
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Did you ask yourself why you have to loose something to gain another thing?

Why not both makes more sense to me.

And as an investor I always keep telling myself about how to avoid losing my money while investing on anything so I can reduce the risk factor and ensure some kind of returns.
Losing is inevitable and this should really be put up on someones mind but somewhat can really be lessen those losses if you do all sorts of things on suppressing the risk via experience and knowledge.
We are living on this world on having the aim on making ourselves rich and live out a life that wont really be having problems towards finances and this is why we are here on this market
or any investment platforms or something like that and its just normal that we do really lose up but what matter most here is that you do really able to sustain into this market.

Life is all about losing and winning. When you lose, you give chances for others to win. Just like you win, because others are losing. So these two have became reciprocal. And while we keep on dreaming to keep on making profits, losses have become more inevitable. And once you know how to deal and manage losses, then winnings might probably next to it. In the end, what we have in this world are not just losing and winning all the time, most of the time survival comes first in priority.

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September 23, 2021, 02:50:25 AM
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There may be losses when you do anything. Sometimes loss is another way to gain. After losing, you can learn more from it.
When there is a loss, we can find the reason for the failure and learn from the lesson, accumulate more experience and find a suitable strategy to deal with the next thing. After experiencing failure, it is easier to obtain success and more benefits.
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September 23, 2021, 03:34:33 AM
Last edit: September 23, 2021, 03:44:43 AM by famososMuertos
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There is a Rockefeller phrase/quotes that says "who work long do not time to make money off of your hard work"

They are thoughts that adapt to specific non-general situations and have a lot of interpretation, even in your approach you have to know how to interpret. In any case, if your goal is to save! work, if your goal is to make money! Invest, it is simple, the important thing is to obtain a profit based on the indisputable and inevitable "profit-loss," maybe if you work a lot your losses will always be zero, it is not bad, on the contrary it is the way of the great majority.

Please do not capitalize the entire title, thank you.

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September 23, 2021, 07:49:37 AM
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Failure is part of humanity that's why the more you fail the more success you will have. In crypto experience is the best teacher hence it will give more confidence in the future of your doings and this will add to your self conscious not to fail anymore. Crypto might me a volatile but it won't stop us to venture on it and in fact the more the risk the higher the reward in return. So keep the good faith and finish the race.

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September 23, 2021, 08:42:06 PM
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There is a Rockefeller phrase/quotes that says "who work long do not time to make money off of your hard work"

They are thoughts that adapt to specific non-general situations and have a lot of interpretation, even in your approach you have to know how to interpret. In any case, if your goal is to save! work, if your goal is to make money! Invest, it is simple, the important thing is to obtain a profit based on the indisputable and inevitable "profit-loss," maybe if you work a lot your losses will always be zero, it is not bad, on the contrary it is the way of the great majority.

Please do not capitalize the entire title, thank you.
I believe that if you do them both, that would allow you to have a chance to have a decent life, but without building something there is rarely ever any chance to get rich. You need to either come from family that has wealth, even if little, or you need to build something. There is no scenario where you can make billions of dollars by just working hard, saving money and investing it.

Rockefeller himself comes from a scam artist family, his father was a famous con artist, so do not believe a word he says because saving and investing will not make you wealthy. Do you know one of the methods standard oil made a profit? They would open up a station somewhere close to competition, drop the prices to insanely low levels, make a huge loss, wait out the competition to bankrupt, then offer to buy them out and then they would spike the prices up to even higher prices than it was originally to make up the difference.

Just build something that helps people, look at google, their creators are rich as hell but nobody hates them, why? Because they are both helping the world be a better place, while also paying their workers a good amount, and even tries to make their workers happy as well.

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September 24, 2021, 12:33:54 AM
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Every people wants to gain something but they can not always have a big expectation to gain whatever they want because, in this life, there will be up and down for all people. You can try hard, but still, the result will be between on that, up and down. Maybe this day, you can gain, but not for tomorrow. If you want to gain more, you need to keep hard work and no matter if you lose today, you will gain in the next days. As long as you do not give up and keep trying, I believe that the process will not lie to you and you will get a good result in the future.

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September 24, 2021, 01:30:52 AM
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Life cannot be smooth sailing, there will always be times of failure. Failure is the mother of success. If you experience failure, you will find the reasons and accumulate more experience. Then learn the lessons and learn more knowledge, the chances of success will be greater.
Especially in the crypto market, when you have more crypto knowledge and experience, investment and trading will be easier to succeed, and it will be easier to get high profits from it.
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September 24, 2021, 04:03:46 AM
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There is a Rockefeller phrase/quotes that says "who work long do not time to make money off of your hard work"

They are thoughts that adapt to specific non-general situations and have a lot of interpretation, even in your approach you have to know how to interpret. In any case, if your goal is to save! work, if your goal is to make money! Invest, it is simple, the important thing is to obtain a profit based on the indisputable and inevitable "profit-loss," maybe if you work a lot your losses will always be zero, it is not bad, on the contrary it is the way of the great majority.

Please do not capitalize the entire title, thank you.
I believe that if you do them both, that would allow you to have a chance to have a decent life, but without building something there is rarely ever any chance to get rich. You need to either come from family that has wealth, even if little, or you need to build something. There is no scenario where you can make billions of dollars by just working hard, saving money and investing it.

Rockefeller himself comes from a scam artist family, his father was a famous con artist, so do not believe a word he says because saving and investing will not make you wealthy. Do you know one of the methods standard oil made a profit? They would open up a station somewhere close to competition, drop the prices to insanely low levels, make a huge loss, wait out the competition to bankrupt, then offer to buy them out and then they would spike the prices up to even higher prices than it was originally to make up the difference.

Just build something that helps people, look at google, their creators are rich as hell but nobody hates them, why? Because they are both helping the world be a better place, while also paying their workers a good amount, and even tries to make their workers happy as well.
Hi,

Coincidentally what I ask in my post you do in your answer, do not generalize, having quoted Rockefeller does not make me his follower nor does it put me in all its historical context, it is a counterpoint to the OP, that simple but I can still repeat it, in certain thoughts or ideas one cannot generalize, particular ideas such as those expressed by the OP and by Rockefeller himself cannot be generalized, they are circumstantial.

What you mention has another context and it leaves my general idea out in reference to it, I cannot tell you anything, it is another Topic.

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September 24, 2021, 06:03:04 AM
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Everyone’s wish is to have a good and dream future which is more brighter than any other thing else, but by so doing, some loose the ones they have gotten already while others tends to gain more and add to their fortunes, thereby making them more famous and relevant. The Bible said “Hold thou fast which thou has” so there is no justification for you to loose the things you have gotten but this don’t always stand as some people are ready to gain even the one which you have accumulated for yourself. In my life, I feel better to gain than loss because;
1.Winning and gaining is what am in this life for
2.  Gaining will make me more relevant in all endeavors than to loose
3.  For me to get engaged in many things, then my mindset is determined already
    on gains
4.  I say yes to the pains because no pain then no gain, therefore I should have
    more.

After entering the crypto market, many of my previous ideas were subverted. Although I sometimes fail to invest, I also gain experience and knowledge. The goal of entering the market has not been achieved, but it has brought experience for future investment success.
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September 24, 2021, 06:38:03 AM
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I don’t think op’s point of view. We are only working hard for the things we want to achieve at the beginning, and we pay in order to be able to accomplish them. We sacrifice some things appropriately to achieve our goals, indicating that gains are relatively more important for the lost.
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September 24, 2021, 10:12:02 AM
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Everyone’s wish is to have a good and dream future which is more brighter than any other thing else, but by so doing, some loose the ones they have gotten already while others tends to gain more and add to their fortunes, thereby making them more famous and relevant. The Bible said “Hold thou fast which thou has” so there is no justification for you to loose the things you have gotten but this don’t always stand as some people are ready to gain even the one which you have accumulated for yourself. In my life, I feel better to gain than loss because;
1.Winning and gaining is what am in this life for
2.  Gaining will make me more relevant in all endeavors than to loose
3.  For me to get engaged in many things, then my mindset is determined already
    on gains
4.  I say yes to the pains because no pain then no gain, therefore I should have
    more.
Instead of you to lose what you have gotten so far it is best that you sell the coin and withdraw the profit you have made. There are other things you can do with the money, I believe that we all have other plans that we are into, like businesses that we do, you can as well invest in those other businesses that you’re doing to help your future. I invest in bitcoin, but it is not the only thing that I am doing, I have so many other things that I am doing to be able to handle the responsibilities that I have. So, when you are investing in bitcoin it is not like you’re going to hold it forever, once you have been able to make a good enough profit, you can sell and wait for another time to buy again.

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September 24, 2021, 11:28:42 AM
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This is related to mindset and mentality.

I want to comment a little on that.

Mentally rich people have a definite goal, to win a competition. They have high ambitions to be number one. They are not easily discouraged and try many ways to win a competition in terms of business and work.

if you mean so, then you are a person who has a successful mental (rich).

But you have to remember, feeling satisfied with all the achievements is a disaster.
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September 24, 2021, 01:16:15 PM
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Everyone’s wish is to have a good and dream future which is more brighter than any other thing else, but by so doing, some loose the ones they have gotten already while others tends to gain more and add to their fortunes, thereby making them more famous and relevant. The Bible said “Hold thou fast which thou has” so there is no justification for you to loose the things you have gotten but this don’t always stand as some people are ready to gain even the one which you have accumulated for yourself. In my life, I feel better to gain than loss because;
1.Winning and gaining is what am in this life for
2.  Gaining will make me more relevant in all endeavors than to loose
3.  For me to get engaged in many things, then my mindset is determined already
    on gains
4.  I say yes to the pains because no pain then no gain, therefore I should have
    more.


If you don't have people who's more knowledgeable to guide you about what things are needed to do and to avoid then for sure expecting to lose something and gain from that experience is somehow expected for newbies especially if you are not resourceful about those open information we can search here in this forum.

But if you are hard working to search those information's and experience of other people then provably you will not lose a lot of money and can able to learn the flaws or techniques to help you up to do a good trades.

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September 26, 2021, 11:12:18 AM
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Everyone’s wish is to have a good and dream future which is more brighter than any other thing else, but by so doing, some loose the ones they have gotten already while others tends to gain more and add to their fortunes, thereby making them more famous and relevant. The Bible said “Hold thou fast which thou has” so there is no justification for you to loose the things you have gotten but this don’t always stand as some people are ready to gain even the one which you have accumulated for yourself. In my life, I feel better to gain than loss because;
1.Winning and gaining is what am in this life for
2.  Gaining will make me more relevant in all endeavors than to loose
3.  For me to get engaged in many things, then my mindset is determined already
    on gains
4.  I say yes to the pains because no pain then no gain, therefore I should have
    more.


This is the reason why you must have a risk-management before engaging yourself in a risky investment. Remember, it's not always a win-win situation to whatever you were doing but if you never experience losses on your journey, you'll never grow and improve yourself. Losing is inevitable but always treat such a thing as an opportunity to craft the best version of yourself. If you win=you gain and if you lose= you learn.

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September 26, 2021, 03:14:47 PM
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Everyone’s wish is to have a good and dream future which is more brighter than any other thing else, but by so doing, some loose the ones they have gotten already while others tends to gain more and add to their fortunes, thereby making them more famous and relevant. The Bible said “Hold thou fast which thou has” so there is no justification for you to loose the things you have gotten but this don’t always stand as some people are ready to gain even the one which you have accumulated for yourself. In my life, I feel better to gain than loss because;
1.Winning and gaining is what am in this life for
2.  Gaining will make me more relevant in all endeavors than to loose
3.  For me to get engaged in many things, then my mindset is determined already
    on gains
4.  I say yes to the pains because no pain then no gain, therefore I should have
    more.


This is a good life principle for success, most people don't want to learn from experience, when they lose they immediately leave crypto, maybe if we are patient then all of the messages above can work on.

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September 26, 2021, 04:15:32 PM
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According the title, i think we have options to keep what we have and don't need to lose some to gain some. For example, there are a lot of ways to earning in crypto without risking our money as long we have skill or maybe we can offer something to other people, or maybe picking up some coins that not have big risk because sometimes people can know which coins is good or not as investment. We have all that choice, it is all depends on us for what we do for living.

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September 26, 2021, 04:44:35 PM
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Looking back a little bit of the better moments of my investing career are the moments where I lost some money just to learn what it was worth it was like gambling, people try and get it back. their money. but will is good if we start early knowing how to avoid losses to minimize possible losses but we should not give up if losses keep happening. So always try to keep going and learn a lot from those losses.

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