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[Welsh]

As for the shitposters, unfortunately, if we removed them all from the signature campaigns, there would be a lot of empty spaces left, which is not realistic to expect. So the only option is to report their posts and hope that at least some of them will try to change for the better.

More slots for quality users is a good thing. Don't let them being in a signature campaign stop you from reporting them if they're breaking the rules. Unfortunately, the most problematic ones are run by campaign managers that couldn't care less, since they're usually paying in some worthless token of theirs, so they just replace the bad quality posters, with the well...the same.  

The thing is, have any of you ever reviewed the post history of the users you reported before? If they start to change, will you thank them for it?

Absolutely. Some users change for the better, some adapt trying to avoid punishment by trying to disguise it, or some just couldn't care less about getting their posts deleted. However, there are definitely a select few who improve their post quality, and become decent users of the forum. They're just drowned out by the mass amounts that don't.

I'll always have respect for someone who can change their ways, after all mistakes aren't bad when you correct them.

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[_BlackStar]

Absolutely. Some users change for the better, some adapt trying to avoid punishment by trying to disguise it, or some just couldn't care less about getting their posts deleted. However, there are definitely a select few who improve their post quality, and become decent users of the forum. They're just drowned out by the mass amounts that don't.

I'll always have respect for someone who can change their ways, after all mistakes aren't bad when you correct them.

Looks like I'm not alone here. I try to remain objective with each user whose posts I report to the moderators to detect whether or not they are willing to change spam behavior.

So far I haven't found any of them aware of it and they started trying to avoid reports by posting on board that I rarely report on. It was a stupid act I got from them, obviously it's just because they weren't able to achieve good post quality. Obviously I reported that to the manager who hired these people, but apparently that wasn't enough.

I also detected some abuse and other rule violators such as merit abuse and possible account being sold and bounty abuse. While I didn't report it to the moderators because I think it would be very effective to do it in a thread so that other DT members can take quick action.

[Lucius]

I have 900 good reports at the moment, if any 1, 2, 3 of them change their posting pattern for the better then that is a success in itself for me. The thing is, have any of you ever reviewed the post history of the users you reported before? If they start to change, will you thank them for it?

There’s no need to check someone’s post history for that, it’s enough that I’m active almost every day on the forum and can see if someone has changed their approach or continues to do the same things as before. Most, however, do not react to the fact that their posts are deleted on a daily basis and there is a greater chance that they will be banned rather than try to get better.

I don't know if you mean private or public thanks, but I think both are completely unnecessary - although I've never been able to say anything like that to anyone, no one has changed from a bad to a good member, at least not those who came under my radar.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I have 900 good reports at the moment, if any 1, 2, 3 of them change their posting pattern for the better then that is a success in itself for me. The thing is, have any of you ever reviewed the post history of the users you reported before? If they start to change, will you thank them for it?

There’s no need to check someone’s post history for that, it’s enough that I’m active almost every day on the forum and can see if someone has changed their approach or continues to do the same things as before. Most, however, do not react to the fact that their posts are deleted on a daily basis and there is a greater chance that they will be banned rather than try to get better.

I don't know if you mean private or public thanks, but I think both are completely unnecessary - although I've never been able to say anything like that to anyone, no one has changed from a bad to a good member, at least not those who came under my radar.

Why thank those who allegedly corrected themselves, but, on the contrary, these people should thank those who contributed to their correction?
I mean, we don't have to give thanks for doing good things, which is a natural behavior for most other people.
At a time when reports are often sent to the moderators, the nicknames of the users become recognizable, and I also noticed that some users have changed their behavior, but often they only change after some ban assigned to them by the moderator.

[friends1980]

(...) Some forum members live in the delusion that they can send PM with any content and that it will not have any consequences.

Indeed I used report to admin and it did not have any (visible) consequences.

[Lucius]

Indeed I used report to admin and it did not have any (visible) consequences.

In that case, the admins did not conclude that it was something that was punishable, although I understood from your post that it could be a death threat to you and your family. As far as I know, such things are punished with a permanent ban, although it all depends on how someone interprets such threats.

Unfortunately, everyone who does a lot of reports accepts the risk that they themselves will become targets of attacks on a personal level. Luckily I see that such things have not affected you too much and that you will make even more effort to thank all these spammers for their kind words

[friends1980]

Indeed I used report to admin and it did not have any (visible) consequences.

In that case, the admins did not conclude that it was something that was punishable, although I understood from your post that it could be a death threat to you and your family. As far as I know, such things are punished with a permanent ban, although it all depends on how someone interprets such threats.

Unfortunately, everyone who does a lot of reports accepts the risk that they themselves will become targets of attacks on a personal level. Luckily I see that such things have not affected you too much and that you will make even more effort to thank all these spammers for their kind words

Indeed. The messages did not contain death threats, only sexually explicit stuff. So in a way, I was rather disappointed it was only a threat.

Jokes aside, the best way of getting these guys out is by taking a list of participants of a random signature campaign and checking their history one by one. Report the shitposters until they give up. The only way of getting them to realize their behavior is unacceptable, is by hitting them where it hurts: in their wallet. In general, they will leave the forum, because being a part of this community or trying to learn more about crypto is absolutely not what they are here for.

FYI I have nothing against signature campaigns. Only against shitposters.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Jokes aside, the best way of getting these guys out is by taking a list of participants of a random signature campaign and checking their history one by one. Report the shitposters until they give up. The only way of getting them to realize their behavior is unacceptable, is by hitting them where it hurts: in their wallet. In general, they will leave the forum, because being a part of this community or trying to learn more about crypto is absolutely not what they are here for.

FYI I have nothing against signature campaigns. Only against shitposters.

friends1980 spoke a great truth here and he does a great job in cleaning campaigns out of shit posters and, as a consequence, the forum as a whole. Furthermore, he does also a great job in observing members trying to outsmart campaign rules or campaign managers. I remember we had a strong collaboration at some point regarding several users of Bitvest and 777Coin campaign where, at that time, several members were doing both of the above mentioned offenses. I, on my part, made a thorough analysis at that time for both campaigns back then ([1], [2]), highlighting many users trying to cheat the rules. Some took it personally, but truth was undeniable. Some left, as friends1980 mentioned above; some were excluded; some tried to improve their posting habit -- which was a great turnover.

Unfortunately, everyone who does a lot of reports accepts the risk that they themselves will become targets of attacks on a personal level.

This is sad, yet true... We can't avoid it, unfortunately...

[LeGaulois]

Come on man! don't hide yourself. What are you scared of? Topics from spammers against you on reputation board.

- BitcoinGirl.Club: hello the police station,  the person abcd living 1234 avenue is a drug dealer with 100kg of cocaine Here are the proofs
The police station: ok thank you

a few days later...

- The police station: hello Mr abcd, we have enough proof about you as a drug dealer, we seized 100kg of cocaine in your house.
- Mr abcd: who snitched?
- The police station: well, BitcoinGirl.Club. the person living at 456 boulevard

- BitcoinGirl.Club: hey why did you give my name, are you crazy?
- The police station: Come on man! don't hide yourself. What are you scared of? drug dealers waiting for you at home


If it's not something important to you, no problem, but accept some people care about things they prefer to stay private.
I could post all your PM in public and tell you the same thing you said.

I"m far to be impressed by a spammer making stupid drama on the reputation board. I got nastier by pm over the yearS.


By the way, I got the solution, it was simple.
Sad for the forum, not for me

[Welsh]

Unfortunately, everyone who does a lot of reports accepts the risk that they themselves will become targets of attacks on a personal level. Luckily I see that such things have not affected you too much and that you will make even more effort to thank all these spammers for their kind words

Yeah, probably. Though, I never really had anyone voice their concerns about it when I was very public about the amount I reported. Though, I guess it definitely gives certain users more ammo. theymos doesn't really release the information that often, however I imagine if you requested for your data not to be released when he does do it, I'm sure it wouldn't be much of a problem to omit it from the results.

Though, I do think most users worth listening too understand the importance of reporters.

[PrimeNumber7]

Anyone who reports a post is simply bringing very public information to the attention of the moderation team. It is a very common response by the mods to a complaint about a moderator action is that multiple people reported a post or a thread for breaking the rules.

I would not personally be worried about any retaliation for reporting a post. I have in the past publicly reported spammers and without any kind of retaliation. (I have experienced retaliation when some people were called out as a scammer, even when PN7 made no such assertion).

[Charles-Tim]

I would not personally be worried about any retaliation for reporting a post. I have in the past publicly reported spammers and without any kind of retaliation.

Reporting is sufficient by just making use of the report button at the inferior lateral part of each users' posts, so retaliation is not possible. Only what can occur which is rear to occur are the people that will complain of their many posts that was deleted at once, asking why on Meta board. Such people do not even know their posts are reported.

[Mbitr]

Any updates @theymos for this year ? 

[Lucius]

Maybe the admin just forgot to publish the statistics for last year, but maybe he also took into account that some members don't want their contribution to the forum to be publicly displayed. Personally, I don't see any threat to privacy or anything like that for anyone whose name appears on the list, but everyone has their own reasons for finding something inappropriate.

[LoyceV]

In general, judging by the latest entries, such activities as reporting have declined very sharply and are not popular among users.

There's less to report
In 2018, I counted 353,813 posts per week. Now, we're at 41,217 posts per week. That's a 88.35% reduction. The Merit system stopped the spam caused by large-scale account farming.

[LoyceV]

Go to the section of altcoins or the Marketplace (goods, gambling, etc)

No thanks I stay away from the spam-boards.

discourage some reporters as they realize they're wasting their time.

Yep. I've accepted that not all places on the internet are nice. As long as they stay on certain boards, I don't have to see their posts.

[Lucius]

In general, judging by the latest entries, such activities as reporting have declined very sharply and are not popular among users.

Reporting is not developed, among other things, because the administration of the forum does not support it in any way and does not encourage users to engage in this activity. And the vague rules that are applied selectively discourage some reporters as they realize they're wasting their time.

If you only look at everything from a financial perspective (or I didn't get a badge, so I won't take part in it anymore), then it makes sense for you and others like you - but I personally do not think that users of this forum should be encouraged in any way when it comes to cleaning the forum in the background. Maybe that's the catch, because if that work was motivated in any way, I'm sure some members would abuse it.

For those who are active on the forum, who care about the forum, and who want to contribute in this way, stimulus or some kind of development is not needed. Report or not, it's a matter of personal choice.

[Lucius]

Lucius, you have some kind of unhealthy obsession with financial perspective. Not everything in this world revolves around money.

For me, this forum is certainly not about money, but you have shown many times that only money or prizes motivate you to do good work for the forum. Calling a member who hasn't spent a single satoshi from the CM campaign over the years as some kind of man who is all about money is stupid to say the least.

Go carve a pumpkin or whatever is already on the menu these days, I hear they are giving away valuable prizes

[AB de Royse777]

If you only look at everything from a financial perspective (or I didn't get a badge, so I won't take part in it anymore), then it makes sense for you and others like you - but I personally do not think that users of this forum should be encouraged in any way when it comes to cleaning the forum in the background. Maybe that's the catch, because if that work was motivated in any way, I'm sure some members would abuse it.

The moment there will be a financial catch or a reputational catch for this kind of work which should be volunteered of course who loves the place and honest interest to do it, you will see many users are starting to race with each others. In the reputation board you will see there are many topics regarding reporting that my report was not handled, his report was handled, mod - you are favoring selective people. Like these you will see many more drama.

I will guarantee - let the signature space be disabled and be disappeared all these signature and avatar campaign. The number of people who are showing they care for the community with their life, keeps reminding all the time what they are doing for the community - will be reduced to some unexpected percent that we can not even imagine it. I would not surprise if over 90% of these users will just disappear for good.

[Lucius]

Ooh, Lucius, you forgot to take your pills again, so you started talking again about what you can't provide as evidence? But don't worry, you'll feel better soon, people in white coats will come and help you.

Luckily, only you and one other person on this forum have ever stooped to the level of insulting me on some sort of personal level by suggesting some kind of illness and pills - but I think you might need pills and people in white wards a lot sooner than I do

Right now, I suggest that you give up your signature and write exactly as much for free as you have been writing all this time before. And if you don't, then you're a hypocrite hiding under the guise of not being here for the money. In general, don’t litter the topic about reporting with your useless nonsense, go to the reputation, there just aren’t enough dramas. Acute insufficiency.

You are the last person on the forum who should share advice on what someone will do with their money or signature, and if one day signatures become prohibited, people like you will disappear with the speed of lightning. I don't have to go to reputation to express my opinion, I wrote everything I have to you here and in some other threads - it's a shame that I didn't put you on ignore a long time ago, but at least it's easy to do. Get out of my way, and I'll get out of yours - I think that's a fair proposition.