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What happened: I need an aws 5k account, @colires willing to sell me that for $350(0.0074 btc) I asked him to send me a PM with payment and service detail, he sent, but soon he want me to delete that PM because aws account trade is not allowed in forum. I have looked @colires's profile before, I know he is very suspicious, so I didn't actually delete PM, instead, I fake a screenshot and sent to him. He believed, then we continue chat about aws account trade. Finally, we all agree on a solution: He send me a revolut business account deal through PM, I pay it, then he send me aws 5k account insteads of revolut business account. After I paid, he sent me an account indeed, but then he clear chat history instantly, I don't even have time to save that account info, so situation now is I paid $350 and I got nothing. I use multi TG account to contact @colires, he just keep ignoring, now it's already 24 hours passed, he still no responding, well then, I have already give him many chances, scam report here. Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2827158Reference Link: https://i.ibb.co/pQ3MnWh/p1.pngAmount Scammed: $350(0.0074 btc) Payment Method: Bitcoin Proof of Payment: https://blockstream.info/tx/cf7e268177dae2937d500c6bb7fb32bee24cd5e5333bc2c7863b1edf2f896bf9PM/Chat Logs: Even though he clear chat history, since I am keeping back up, so 90% chat history still saved. https://i.ibb.co/12XQTvM/c1.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/RBY4DCt/c2.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/txynTRH/c3.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/ZGcb5rB/c4.pngAdditional Notes:
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September 21, 2021, 03:12:43 AM |
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Quoted for reference The proof looks solid for me, it's already confirmed the telegram is used by @colires in this forum and not the impostor. You also pay the correct address he provided on the forum too, seems he's used new address for each deal. Yes he's controversial seller, many buyer said he's a scammer but they can't provide a sufficient proof and create sock puppet to attack him. But you're different, good job for this accusation and sorry for the $350... let's see what @colires will respond on this accusations.
Just a hypothetical question in my mind : What if those proof you provided also faked?
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September 21, 2021, 04:35:21 AM |
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Just a hypothetical question in my mind : What if those proof you provided also faked?
I can't fake forum PM, anyone with permission could check them. I sent funds to the provided btc address, it's solid fact. Can @colires prove he sent me account? I am looking forward to it.
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I can't fake forum PM, anyone with permission could check them.
This might be the best option. You would have to let a trusted member of the forum have temporary access to your account. I would trust Jawhead999 to check your PMs, or I would volunteer to do it. It is up to you if you want to do it at all, it would provide absolute proof, which all other accusers have lacked. On a related note I saw this today: These are the people who have the most good reports over the last year: +-------------------------+--------------+ | User | Good reports | +-------------------------+--------------+ ... | colires | 435 | ... +-------------------------+--------------+ Colires has the 37th most good reports in the entire forum, over the last year. I didn't even make the list, its pretty competitive. PS: While I'm glad you could help nail two long-time scammers, getting scammed twice in 2 days isn't a good start and I recommend taking a bit of time off before your next trade.
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Colires has the 37th most good reports in the entire forum, over the last year. I didn't even make the list, its pretty competitive.
Making 435 good reports isn't that hard; it just takes time. You could probably hit that number in Bitcoin Discussion within a few days if you devoted several hours a day just looking for shitposts. If you just reported all the garbage in the altcoin ANN section, you could probably get that many good reports in a day. My point is that being the member with the 37th most good reports doesn't mean a goddamn thing in general and it certainly doesn't have anything to do with this scam accusation. As far as colires's reputation goes, it's really hard to discern whether he's a serial scammer based on those negs he has that have reference links (and most of them don't). There's this one, which seems to be just a rage-against-DT neg, while others do have evidence that he really did scam for money. I'm not inclined to believe untrusted feedback unless there's a valid reference link, but there are enough of colires's negative trusts that do have them that I'm thinking he is indeed a scammer. let's see what @colires will respond on this accusations.
I'm going to suspend judgement until he does. If he can't refute OP's claim, he's getting a neg.
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September 21, 2021, 07:58:18 AM |
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This might be the best option. You would have to let a trusted member of the forum have temporary access to your account. I would trust Jawhead999 to check your PMs, or I would volunteer to do it. It is up to you if you want to do it at all, it would provide absolute proof, which all other accusers have lacked.
You and Jawhead999 can access my PM. Do I need to send you my account password or you can use other method to check my PM?
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September 21, 2021, 08:54:45 AM Last edit: September 21, 2021, 12:53:49 PM by mprep |
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You are finally here, Oscar ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I am already said in the first post, after you send me account, you clear chat history instantly, that's true fact, I am still insist it. After you clear chat history, I am confusing, I am not sure it this your trade rule or you are just simply a scammer, since you already block my main TG account(Nyla Dalia), so I have to contact you with other TG account. First I use TG account 1 to asked you to send me account again, you keeping ignoring. After some hours passed, I use TG account 2 to contact you again, which is the last screenshot you post, you think that's threaten? I will called it warning, if you send me account again, I will acting like nothing is happen, if you keep ignoring, then see you in forum. He confirmed that everything is fine. After some time he started started to threaten and blackmail me. Saying that if I do not send his money back then he will report me in forum that I sold him AWS account and I will get banned. Most likely he saw a good opurtunity to get account and his money back. I told him to give me account details and if its unused I will refund money. He declined this offer. He started insulting me and in some point I told him thats enough and blocked him. He then deleted chat history and started to message me with 4-5 different telegram accounts and continued to threaten me.
Funny, these are all fake. You got any evidence to proof it? No, because I delete it? Haha, you are a old seller, you should know when things goes strange, the first thing you should do is to back up chat history, but you didn't. WHY NOT? The chat history hurt me or hurt you? https://i.ibb.co/ZGcb5rB/c4.png https://i.imgur.com/EDdAhJP.jpgHey Oscar Look at these images We can ignore hour since we live in diffrent timezone, just look at the minutes, it's continuous. Here's timeline: :04 You sent me account :05 or maybe :06 :07 You clear chat history :08 I am confused and want you to send it again, buy you never receive these, because you just block me, every message I sent got only 1 tick, check the last seen time, that's when you block me [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
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September 21, 2021, 09:57:20 AM |
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Since you are backing up your chat history why you are not posting these chats here?
Because it's not even exists, you claim it's exists, you said I insulting you, well, prove it. I have looked @colires's profile before, I know he is very suspicious, so I didn't actually delete PM, instead, I fake a screenshot and sent to him.
Yes, yes, I make a fake screenshot and sent to Oscar. But why I am doing this? Do I want so scam his money or account? Nope, just because his red Untrusted feedback is too much He want me to delete it, Why? Because it's dangerous to him? Then this might be a weapon when Oscar scam me. So I decide to fake a screenshot, just for self defense, and this is the only one, all others evidence just real. How many of the chats have you photoshopped here to make yourself to look more legit?
In fact, I am not fake any chat screenshot, everyone can try to export chat history from Telegram Client, it's the same, you won't find any unusual, just simply because it's real. https://i.ibb.co/5hVQnGV/p2.pngOMG Tell me, Oscar Why people should trust you?
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September 21, 2021, 10:27:00 AM |
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Even though you don't have any recourse legally-speaking, you could complain to Kraken that there is a scammer using them to cash out bitcoin through their exchange. This is the scammer's Kraken deposit address: 366PvEGTjf1UKWCjZGiPHPyqpFUuNJp9to Found him. He's vareole. Busted AF. -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I am vareole from bitcointalk.org and today is 20/07/2020 I want to stake my btc wallet address here 1JtnLnMfDio59QRvTgiUG1Ck5nDgukWLqw This is my AUTHENTIC ADDRESS and the FIRST ADDRESS I HAVE SIGNED IN THIS FORUM AND IN MY LIFE! -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1JtnLnMfDio59QRvTgiUG1Ck5nDgukWLqw IC+EDbNrD+oY5COJZpPPY640yV0pB06Vtgtl30DW/Pi/TKrrnpbqEshflo60BR5zxPiH3NyNbBPbtDka3XjGyO0= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- address: 1JtnLnMfDio59QRvTgiUG1Ck5nDgukWLqwThat address is part of this wallet and was used to send BTC to the same Kraken deposit address: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FZf4hCL0%2Fvareole1.png&t=665&c=tegSluz3zpnZlA) I had kind of suspected they were the same person for a while now, but he's getting better at covering his tracks. Unfortunately for him the blockchain is non-coverable. Somebody should really report him to Kraken, though. If I was one of his victims, I definitely would.
My point is that being the member with the 37th most good reports doesn't mean a goddamn thing in general and it certainly doesn't have anything to do with this scam accusation.
Perhaps not but since vareole is also on the top reporter list with 569 good reports, so he actually has 1004 good reports total. He's been a very busy beaver, and a very naughty boy.
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September 21, 2021, 10:54:24 AM |
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Here's timeline: :04 You sent me account :05 or maybe :06 :07 You clear chat history :08 I am confused and want you to send it again, buy you never receive these, because you just block me, every message I sent got only 1 tick, check the last seen time, that's when you block me
This looks convincing. He confirmed that everything is fine. After some time he started started to threaten and blackmail me. Saying that if I do not send his money back then he will report me in forum that I sold him AWS account and I will get banned. Most likely he saw a good opurtunity to get account and his money back. I told him to give me account details and if its unused I will refund money. He declined this offer. He started insulting me and in some point I told him thats enough and blocked him. He then deleted chat history and started to message me with 4-5 different telegram accounts and continued to threaten me.
I don't think only 3 seconds someone can check the AWS account and do long conversation as you said above (threaten, blackmail, asking to gave back the account and refund the money) it's almost impossible since both of you didn't very active, there's a gap based on the picture. You're an old seller in this forum with many accusations, you must already know proof is really important here and block an user is a red flag. You can't provide proof about your above statement isn't? I guess long time blatant scammer is lose here... I feel sorry for those victims got scammed from you.
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September 21, 2021, 11:03:18 AM |
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If I wanted to scam him why I offered to send and I did sent my BTC wallet in forum again? I could have kept all the business in telegram like all the scammers do.
Look at my screenshot posted above, I asked you to send a PM to me, that's why you can't keep everything on Telegram. Everything you say makes it clear that as soon as you saw a good oppurtunity to blackmail and try scam me you took a shot.
Don't just talking. Prove it. You are better then this. Oscar. If you can't, then shut up and let others judge.
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Its pretty much pointless to say anything here since DT members will believe a newbie and rely on his screenshots after he admitted that he faked some of them..
But you already said this: I am not denying those PM-s.
And in those PMs was this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FpQ3MnWh%2Fp1.png&t=665&c=7nSa0TXrKdqJKw) The address you posted sent the scammed BTC to a Kraken deposit address used by Vareole, as I proved in the post above. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F5xNv3kC%2Fvar2.png&t=665&c=TN6jN8z284KGzA) "So how do you account for that?" he asked, not sure how the cookie jar-handed, red-faced scammer would react next. Would he respond with some creative bullshittery? Try to dance his way through hoops of plausible deniability, like some sort of douchelord acrobat? Whatever it was, it would probably be entertaining, and perhaps even good for a laugh.
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You have to be stupid if you think that this wallet belongs to vareole.
It's a curious address to be sure. If its not owned by vareole, its owned by a network of scammers of which you and him are a part. I have no idea what you would be doing sharing the same Kraken deposit address, but seeing as how you're both involved in a lot of the same types of scam accusations, there's a high chance you're the same person. This is the address you provided in the non-disputed PM: 1JVHCH6r7gjHf8Bk17bLQWmCn84vzTYGXt This is Vareole's staked address: 1JtnLnMfDio59QRvTgiUG1Ck5nDgukWLqw This is the Kraken deposit address shared by you and Vareole: 366PvEGTjf1UKWCjZGiPHPyqpFUuNJp9to You've also received funds from scams using other accounts at that address. Good show for getting this far, got a lot of merits this time. Keep it up the good reports.
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September 22, 2021, 01:24:34 AM |
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You have to be stupid if you think that this wallet belongs to vareole.
That's a weird way of framing it. You sent bitcoins to the address, so who is the recipient? And if you're implying that the amount received by the address is large... it's not. It seems to have received up to $10-15k at a time, which could quickly add up hundreds of thousands simply by going around in circles.
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September 22, 2021, 02:20:50 AM |
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Its good to see that nutildah finally understood how stupid he sounds and put me on ignore.
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This wallet belongs to exchanger. If two people are using same exchanger then they are alts, because they both sent funds to exchanger wallet?
Seriously?
What do you mean by "put you on ignore", exactly? That's correct. The wallet belongs to Kraken. It's a deposit address that is assigned to one account holder and periodically emptied, along with other Kraken deposit addresses. Your address, on the other hand, thus far has no indication of not being controlled by you.
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Are you the nutjob that pestered me to provide escrow for a trade with colires a few days ago? It must have been you, I recognize you as the same entitled asshole who can't take no for an answer. I don't believe you that you got scammed by not saving the codes in time. Smacks of bullshit to me. Don't misinterpret this as me defending colires; he's dealing in digital property that's either stolen or hacked. How can you trust people who do that? Why do you think I refused?
I do believe nutildah, however. The blockchain doesn't lie. Good job making the connection.
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I am not talking about exchange. I am talking about exchanger.
Like a money launderer for scammers? Why would you send coins to someone else's deposit address if that's what you're implying?
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September 22, 2021, 03:41:04 AM |
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Are you the nutjob that pestered me to provide escrow for a trade with colires a few days ago? It must have been you, I recognize you as the same entitled asshole who can't take no for an answer.
You may not believe this, but that nutjob you are talking about is not me. I do want to escrow, but I realize many user won't escorw digital goods after I checked escrow thread, and the fee is too high, so I gave up, I didn't contact anyone for escrow. I mentioned that I gave up escrow in another scammer report thread. So that's not me, you can check our record, ip etc, that must be many difference since I am really really not the person you think I am. I don't believe you that you got scammed by not saving the codes in time. Smacks of bullshit to me.
That's fact, I am not saving account info in time. I am not only chatting to scammer, but also chatting to others seller. When scammer sent me account info, there is an popup in right-down area, I don't know he will clear chat history, so I think I can end chatting with current seller then switch to scammer's conversation and copy account info. But when I try to switch to scammer's conversation, I realize that conversation already gone, there is no scammer's conversation in left panel, I have to search his username to reopen conversation, but it's all empty since he clear chat history. https://i.ibb.co/6ZCrndq/o1.pngIf you still think this is all bullshit, check image above I was chatting to this seller, focus on time :04 scammer sent me account info :05 :06 I was chatting to this seller :05? :06? :07? scammer clear chat history
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After all this, i made my mind to not to deal with Colires! Thanks for bring this up Mate!!
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