User @colires scammer

[suchmoon]

OK so you received BTC, sent Paysera, is that correct? I thought this was for an account sale, what would Paysera have to do with any of this?

Regardless, you just happened to use the same "exchanger" used by other scammer accounts on the forum - an exchanger who apparently never changes his deposit address - is that what you expect us to believe?

That's a tall shitshake you want us to swallow bud.

Seems to be taking a 20% haircut ($350 -> $275) in the process, if we were to believe that whiteout screenshot, which reminds me of the "goat in 5G" ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jlTAhOFlXc

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[FatFork]

To continue on nutildah's research, here's another address linked to the specified deposit address from Kraken:
1KR7r2AYuaBZuqzdryX4Vay52sS9qeDPyh

Txid#1, Txid#2, Txid#3

It appears to be the address of a user named: jurkan

Address: I’m jurkan, it's 16/06/2021 and I can sign a message.
Message: 1KR7r2AYuaBZuqzdryX4Vay52sS9qeDPyh
Signature: IDj+thJd4/AsPfp9qm2eHlVAR2k9/4dMtq47jU5S2tOfKkYxWZxDgHoPKrKMU+R/hZ5LkEMxM5x/0YkrjB/FywI=

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That account was used by @colires to bump his sales topic and to post fake positive testimonials.

Made a purchase two days ago. Everything is good so far. Will buy again later today.

[Jawhead999]

Using same provider "Telia" and same phone (phone icon, gradient colour profile)

colires

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valeore



Often using "red circle" to cover some sensitive informations.

colires

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valeore



Using "white square" to cover sensitive informations in Telegram, right of the picture there is a blank white area

colires

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The 2 pictures of valeore above I took from his telegram channel @valeoreChannel

My Channel https://t.me/vareoleChannel

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Does those similarities between both of them only happen by chance?

[suchmoon]

Where did you get this picture from? Do you have a higher resolution version?

[Jawhead999]

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Where did you get this picture from? Do you have a higher resolution version?

In valeore's telegram https://t.me/vareoleChannel
No, the size only 21.7KB but can be read, it's blur when I upload to image hosting.

[suchmoon]

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Where did you get this picture from? Do you have a higher resolution version?

In valeore's telegram https://t.me/vareoleChannel
No, the size only 21.7KB but can be read, it's blur when I upload to image hosting.

Ok, so vareole seems to be Estonian, based on the date in that screenshot, as well as other details in the channel (e.g. SEB Pank is an Estonian bank). That's about 0.02% of world population... would be a fairly big coincidence on top of all the other coincidences if the language colires tried to scrub out of the screenshots earlier in this thread was also Estonian.

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(see the URL in the browser and the language switch in the bottom right corner; "et" stands for Estonian).

[Kittygalore]

I don't know how you've fallen for this guy since he already has 3 standing red trust to prevent others from getting scammed in the future. He doesn't have an imposter in Telegram, he just wants you to think that way so he can scam more people.

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Ok, so vareole seems to be Estonian, based on the date in that screenshot, as well as other details in the channel (e.g. SEB Pank is an Estonian bank). That's about 0.02% of world population... would be a fairly big coincidence on top of all the other coincidences if the language colires tried to scrub out of the screenshots earlier in this thread was also Estonian.

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(see the URL in the browser and the language switch in the bottom right corner; "et" stands for Estonian).

Yes, that's just what I wanted to show. There are many screenshots of his desktop. He uses an Estonian keyboard layout on Windows.


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[Jawhead999]

You should google about this provider. Its market leader in the place where I come from.
I am using iphone, this phone is not common at all?

Really? You want me to spend hours on it and find how many people are using these?

It looks common but combining all those characteristic it may look uncommon IMO, see above picture both of you also come from Estonia too.

Sure, bring here an another user with these criteria (come from Estonia, using red circle, Telia provider, Iphone and white square in Telegram.)

I don't know how you've fallen for this guy since he already has 3 standing red trust to prevent others from getting scammed in the future. He doesn't have an imposter in Telegram, he just wants you to think that way so he can scam more people.

The thing is, the scammer didn't get red tagged before OP trade with him.

[DireWolfM14]

Don't misinterpret this as me defending colires; he's dealing in digital property that's either stolen or hacked.  How can you trust people who do that?  Why do you think I refused?

Not a single one of my accounts are either stolen or hacked.

Okay, maybe the more accurate way to describing it is to say that you're selling accounts that were made using stolen, forged, or coerced identification documents.  I wonder how many of those accounts were made using the IDs of Nigerians who've never owned a computer in their life...

So now is the problem that exchanger does not change his deposit address?

That's pretty weird, actually.  If he has multiple exchanges going on at the same time, it would make it difficult to keep track of who's money is who's.  When I first saw the screen shot I thought that maybe it was some automated Telegram bot doing the exchanges, which would make it even weirder that only one address is used.  I'm not doubting your story, just commenting that it's a weird way of doing business.

Whether the address belongs to you or not has become somewhat irrelevant.  It does seem overwhelmingly coincidental that you and vereol have the same phone, use the same wireless network, use the same "exchanger," speak the same language, live in the same country, and redact images the same way.  Far too many coincidences to ignore, in my opinion.

[suchmoon]

I am not denying that it seems odd and people can think we are same person, but we are not.

I have known vareole for a while, we are both from Estonia. We met in other forum, outside of bitcointalk. He was the one who introduced me this forum.
Long time ago we worked together, I provided him bank accounts to cash out paypal funds. Everything was good until he lost his supplier and seems that was when he started scamming.
After that I started to sell my accounts here.

Yes, it seems that we both use Telia, they are market leaders here.
Yes we both use iphone.
Yes we both use same exchanger, because he was the one who introduced me to him and it has been working well for me.
Yes we are both from Estonia. Estonian population is 1,325 mln. There are way more people in bitcointalk from Estonia than only two of us.
Yes we both use common style of hiding sensitive data. We worked together every day and seems that stick to us.

While this is a lot of similar things we are still different people.

Everyone can have their own opinion and if someone think that I am vareole so be it. I have provided evidence for everything I have said previously. I have wasted a lot of more time here than I would like to. This is my last post here and after this I will put this section on ignore.

Meh, a "mentor" story. I was hoping for a "brother" or maybe a salacious "ex-girlfriend" drama. You should have asked nutildah to write you a better one, he has a way with words.

Trouble is, on page 3 after a slow drip of evidence and contradictory denials it's impossible to tell you apart from a cornered scammer who would say anything after getting caught.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I'm not doubting your story, just commenting that it's a weird way of doing business.
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Far too many coincidences to ignore, in my opinion.

Eh?  So which is it, my man?

I am not denying that it seems odd and people can think we are same person, but we are not.

You are lying.  There is too much evidence to the contrary for you to deny it, so consider yourself busted.  Busted.

Everyone can have their own opinion and if someone think that I am vareole so be it. I have provided evidence for everything I have said previously. I have wasted a lot of more time here than I would like to. This is my last post here and after this I will put this section on ignore.

Ah, this is the old "I don't have time to argue against these allegations" cop-out, which I've seen many scammers and assorted idiots use on bitcointalk when they get called out on some shenanigans and they can't refute the evidence.  That's almost as good as an admission of guilt.

I provided him bank accounts to cash out paypal funds. Everything was good until he lost his supplier and seems that was when he started scamming.

I don't know how people do business in Estonia, but providing someone else with "bank accounts to cash out paypal funds" seems very strange to me, and I don't know if I'd do that for anyone, even if they were a friend--and by your account vareole was someone you met on a forum and worked together doing who knows what.  If you really are two different people (and you're not), I have no doubt you'd be aware that he's a scammer.

[suchmoon]

I don't know how people do business in Estonia, but providing someone else with "bank accounts to cash out paypal funds" seems very strange to me, and I don't know if I'd do that for anyone, even if they were a friend--and by your account vareole was someone you met on a forum and worked together doing who knows what.  If you really are two different people (and you're not), I have no doubt you'd be aware that he's a scammer.

Could be hacked or otherwise illegitimately obtained PayPal accounts or funds of questionable legality. Probably wouldn't want to use their own bank account with something like that.

Keep in mind that colires is doing "business" here (selling AWS, PayPal, exchange accounts etc) in a way that you can't really do with your real identity.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Could be hacked or otherwise illegitimately obtained PayPal accounts or funds of questionable legality. Probably wouldn't want to use their own bank account with something like that.

That's kind of what I was assuming, that the business they were doing together wasn't strictly legitimate--and that's being kind as to my thoughts on that, assuming I were to give colires the benefit of the doubt.  I don't believe for a moment that the two accounts represent two different individuals.

Keep in mind that colires is doing "business" here (selling AWS, PayPal, exchange accounts etc) in a way that you can't really do with your real identity.

Indeed. 

[DireWolfM14]

I'm not doubting your story, just commenting that it's a weird way of doing business.
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Far too many coincidences to ignore, in my opinion.

Eh?  So which is it, my man?

I don't doubt that the address in question (366PvEGTjf1UKWCjZGiPHPyqpFUuNJp9to) belongs to someone other than colires/vereole.  I am, however doubting the excuses and claims that they are not the same person.  Too many consciences to disregard, including the fact that they used the same "exchanger" who allegedly owns that address.

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Keep in mind that colires is doing "business" here (selling AWS, PayPal, exchange accounts etc) in a way that you can't really do with your real identity.

Indeed. 

On vereole's Telegram group he listed an offer to sell "PayPal funds at %50 off."  This was right after a series of posts complaining about PayPal freezing his funds.  My suspicion is that he's selling the actual account with the locked funds, so that the buyer has the burden of unlocking the funds.  He's also been known to sell PayPal accounts here on the forum.  

There's no way to produce multiple paypal accounts using the same identification (unless it's a legitimate, documented business account) so there's obviously something nefarious going on.  If nothing else the TOS of paypal are being violated by opening multiple accounts, and I highly doubt it's that innocuous.  The accounts are most likely hacked, or created using stolen identification.  Best case scenario; some scammer in Nigeria is creating these accounts with Nigerian identification documents purchased from his neighbors for a nickel.  

The same goes for AWS accounts, Revolute Banking accounts, and almost any other account that these shysters are slinging.    

[nutildah]

Meh, a "mentor" story. I was hoping for a "brother" or maybe a salacious "ex-girlfriend" drama. You should have asked nutildah to write you a better one, he has a way with words.

OK here's the story: They don't actually just know each other. They're brothers. But they're not actually just brothers. They're twins. But they're not actually just twins. They're siamese twins. But they're not actually just siamese twins, they share all of the same body and brain.

That's pretty good, right?

I don't doubt that the address in question (366PvEGTjf1UKWCjZGiPHPyqpFUuNJp9to) belongs to someone other than colires/vereole.

I do. Everything this colires guy says is a lie. This is like the 7th time he's been accused of scamming somebody on the forum under that account. Why wouldn't his new story also be a lie?

Regardless, there's little doubt that colires poses a trading risk by this point.

Here's the exact same scenario back in April.

Welp, I fell for this guy's scam.

Attaching all the proof I have. Please ban the user if possible.

https://imgur.com/AMNEjNo
https://imgur.com/4OQDD15
https://imgur.com/zDGCnj9
https://imgur.com/UDMXWlu
https://imgur.com/ocPMZ2b

BTC Transactions:
https://imgur.com/axPMToE
https://imgur.com/gFW00Sr

Of course he blocked/deleted the telegram conversation. I DM'd a senior member here to help with escrow yesterday, took too long and I got impatient and paid the price.

Posting this so others don't get scammed.

This address also made deposits to the "exchanger" address.

So regardless of whether or not colires and vareole are the same person, they engage in the same scams and send dirty money to the same idiot exchanger.

Case closed.

[DireWolfM14]

I don't doubt that the address in question (366PvEGTjf1UKWCjZGiPHPyqpFUuNJp9to) belongs to someone other than colires/vereole.

I do. Everything this colires guy says is a lie. This is like the 7th time he's been accused of scamming somebody on the forum under that account. Why wouldn't his new story also be a lie?

Maybe I just can't (or don't want to) believe that he scammed 19 bitcoins in the last ten months.  

Regardless, there's little doubt that colires poses a trading risk by this point.

Can't argue with that.  There have been far too many scam accusations against him to brush them all off as retaliation as he's often claimed.  The trouble for me has always been that his accusers haven't elicited much of my sympathy.  This particular segment of this market is full of fraudsters, spammers, and scammers on both sides of the transactions.

Case closed.

Until he shows up with the next alt account.

[nutildah]

Maybe I just can't (or don't want to) believe that he scammed 19 bitcoins in the last ten months.  

A lot of those are transactions sent directly from other exchanges. Maybe some of it is legitimate transacting, and there could be fiat payouts happening somewhere, so its not all profit.

Until he shows up with the next alt account.

That's true. But there isn't a whole lot of space here for multiple scammers. Competition is pretty fierce, which is why colires and vareole have a combined 1000+ good reports.

Banning the sales of personal accounts would go a long way in disenfranchising him and Rambotnic.

[suchmoon]

Maybe I just can't (or don't want to) believe that he scammed 19 bitcoins in the last ten months.  

Not necessarily. As I mentioned earlier, the largest incoming TX is like 0.36 BTC / $15k, so he had at least that much at one point but it could be going in circles to make up the 19 BTC total. The whole shtick about a mysterious "exchanger" sounds about as contrived as the rest of the "mentor" story. If he was supposedly trading bank accounts, PayPal accounts etc it doesn't make much sense that he wouldn't be able to cash out his own bitcoins.

[LoyceV]

~ I didn't actually delete PM, instead, I fake a screenshot and sent to him.

Thanks for confessing to lying and doctoring evidence. That makes me doubt anything else you say and show.

because aws account trade is not allowed in forum.

This is correct, see Banned services. This is banned for a reason, now you know why.

He confirmed that everything is fine. After some time he started started to threaten and blackmail me. Saying that if I do not send his money back then he will report me in forum that I sold him AWS account and I will get banned. Most likely he saw a good opurtunity to get account and his money back.

This scenario would explain why kuznetsov.damir635 willingly breaks forum rules on a risky trade. He made another scam accusation 2 days before this one. I was wondering already if he's really stupid enough to get scammed twice within 2 days.

but then he clear chat history instantly

He then deleted chat history

This is great
Two users both accusing the other of doing the same very common thing on scammer's paradise Telegram.

So I decide to fake a screenshot, just for self defense, and this is the only one, all others evidence just real.

You cannot just lie when convenient and expect people to believe you later on.

That address is part of this wallet and was used to send BTC to the same Kraken deposit address:

Maybe I missed it, but isn't it possible 1JtnLnMfDio59QRvTgiUG1Ck5nDgukWLqw paid someone (for whatever reason) to address 366PvEGTjf1UKWCjZGiPHPyqpFUuNJp9to instead of owning the Kraken account associated with it?

Not a single one of my accounts are either stolen or hacked.

How do you create an AWS account with $5000 funding? I'm curious: do you use stolen credit cards or something? Bezos didn't become the richest guy by giving away money in bulk.

I received BTC for account
I sent BTC to exchanger and received paysera funds for it

He is a well known exhanger in EU who exchanges crypto to fiat with instant SEPA transfers.

This sounds plausible to me. I've paid people directly to their exchange account too, and vice versa (for low amounts, in case you're wondering).

I can let neutral person like LoyceV verify these with anydesk.

I'm only willing to verify things that work through Tor browser, and don't require me to install anything.

Long time ago we worked together, I provided him bank accounts to cash out paypal funds.

This sounds illegal. Words that come to mind are "criminal", "money mule" and "money laundering". Take your pick!

I know one thing for sure: I wouldn't trust kuznetsov.damir635 or colires at all. But in this case I'm not convinced colires scammed OP.

@nutildah: I've also seen an instant exchanger that reuses the same deposit address many times. I know Kraken doesn't do that, but what it does mean is that depositing to a certain address doesn't necessarily mean all transactions are connected. I've seen address reuse happen on Bitpay too.