who lied to me ? Bitcointalk.org members or Coinbase employees

[i_am_viral]

https://www.blockchain.com/bch/address/pr994hajwtscfvgcprmak52czn95uyg6gu6kysfpcq

This is a 10.5 BCH transaction to Coinbases BTC wallet.

the transfer arrived
2019-02-24 19:20

 it can be seen the wallet was emptied less than 3 months later.

2019-05-15 21:53


The members here said that only Coinbase employees can access these Coins with private keys.

The Coinbase support insists that they cannot be recovered.

where did the coins go ? Who or what emptied the wallet less than 3 months later.

[Wind_FURY]

The members here said that only Coinbase employees can access these Coins with private keys.

The Coinbase support insists that they cannot be recovered.

Coinbase obviously lied to you. They, and only they, have access to the private key to that public key. The person from Coinbase’s support who talked to you probably, doesn’t know how anything technically works, or there’s a policy not to help users with that kind of problem.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Who or what emptied the wallet less than 3 months later.

Coinbase did.

The only people who can access Coinbase's private keys and Coinbase's addresses is Coinbase. They have swept coins sent to the wrong addresses in the past, despite claiming that they cant recover them, not told the users in question and just pocketed the difference. I would suggest you contact them with the proof of transaction (provided that address really does belong to them) and threaten legal action if they do not return your coins.

They don't care about their users. They care about profits, even if that means literally stealing.

[NotATether]

Or, you know, Coinbase employees or exchange software moved around the deposit to some other place in their exchange?

Coinbase doesn't give you a fixed BTC address which means it's possible for balances to move around.

[zanezane]

What kind of deplorable person would put you in this kind of situation? I am sure that it's not the users in this forum that's lying, if they're high enough in the company ladder, Coinbase employees can have access to your accounts, you check yourself out too, remember that you might've been a victim of a RAT that used your computer without your knowledge.

[nutildah]

The members here said that only Coinbase employees can access these Coins with private keys.

The Coinbase support insists that they cannot be recovered.

You were complaining about this 2.5 years ago, and somebody answered you back then.

The same address received some BTC. https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3L8yHKLYoFJYSjj6XVwYpDJ5upHV8giwnp

Does this address belong to your Coinbase account? If it does, then it proves you accidentally sent your BCH to a BTC address and Coinbase doesn't have an obligation to return it.

You sent your BCH to your BTC address instead of the BCH address assigned to your account.

It appears Coinbase did manage to move it, and that was after you contacted them. You might want to try again.

[davis196]

Those transactions happened in 2019.Why are you asking this question now?
Did you forgot about this Coinbase wallet for the last two years?
Was this Coinbase account hacked by someone?
If not,then only someone working in Coinbase would be able to move the coins.
Why would Bitcointalk forum members lie to you?This doesn't make any sense.
You probably know the saying:"Not you keys,not your coins..."

[suzanne5223]

Assuming the member of this forum that answered your question when the issue happen lied.
But ask yourself, why would she lie?
Who is going to benefit from the issue after everything dies down?
Having said that, if the receiver wallet address provided by Coinbase is intact with the wallet address you sent the BCH, the only person that can empty the wallet is the holder of the wallet's private key (which is Coinbase).

[joniboini]

Why are you even bothered by this anyway. Just think about it on your own, if Coinbase (regardless of whether it's employee A or B, or a team of high-level management) doesn't have access to the wallets then how on earth they can manage their business. Sure, maybe not everyone can access it but I'm pretty sure the Bitcointalk member you mentioned doesn't really mean it this way. It would be a disaster if an intern has access to all of their cold and hot wallets keys.

[TribalBob]

https://www.blockchain.com/bch/address/pr994hajwtscfvgcprmak52czn95uyg6gu6kysfpcq

This is a 10.5 BCH transaction to Coinbases BTC wallet.

the transfer arrived
2019-02-24 19:20

 it can be seen the wallet was emptied less than 3 months later.

2019-05-15 21:53


The members here said that only Coinbase employees can access these Coins with private keys.

The Coinbase support insists that they cannot be recovered.

where did the coins go ? Who or what emptied the wallet less than 3 months later.

Coinbase is lying because they can access all the accounts registered in their wallet, can't understand why a class of Coinbase can do this, with the issue of a hack happening, even though they did it themselves
just my opinion sorry if i said wrong

[i_am_viral]

many replies thanks, looks like they trying to brainwash me, ive been insulting them for a long time and know over a hundred employees.

Will kick them off social media when can do so.

[o_e_l_e_o]

ive been insulting them for a long time and know over a hundred employees.

Insulting individual employees isn't exactly the best way to get them to help you recover your funds. Most employees at a customer support level are just doing their jobs and are feeding you the only lines they are allowed to. It's not their fault Coinbase as a company is completely amoral, and their customer support employees certainly don't have access to the necessary private keys to refund your coins.

Usually what happens is that they say they can't recover individual coins sent to the wrong address, usually because it will cost them more to do than your future business is worth if they lose you as a customer over such an issue, and it does bring security risks to use private keys to make transactions on chains they weren't meant for. So they blow off anyone who contacts them with such an issue with the standard "We cannot be held responsible for your mistakes" type email. Then, at some point down the line, the higher-ups in Coinbase sweep en masse all the funds which various users and sent to the wrong address, as can be seen by the 50-input transaction which swept yours. Most users have long forgotten about their lost coins, and so Coinbase just keeps them for themselves. You'll need to ask a customer support employee nicely to escalate it up the chain to someone who can help. Insulting them will likely just earn you more canned responses.

[i_am_viral]

ive been insulting them for a long time and know over a hundred employees.

Insulting individual employees isn't exactly the best way to get them to help you recover your funds. Most employees at a customer support level are just doing their jobs and are feeding you the only lines they are allowed to. It's not their fault Coinbase as a company is completely amoral, and their customer support employees certainly don't have access to the necessary private keys to refund your coins.

Usually what happens is that they say they can't recover individual coins sent to the wrong address, usually because it will cost them more to do than your future business is worth if they lose you as a customer over such an issue, and it does bring security risks to use private keys to make transactions on chains they weren't meant for. So they blow off anyone who contacts them with such an issue with the standard "We cannot be held responsible for your mistakes" type email. Then, at some point down the line, the higher-ups in Coinbase sweep en masse all the funds which various users and sent to the wrong address, as can be seen by the 50-input transaction which swept yours. Most users have long forgotten about their lost coins, and so Coinbase just keeps them for themselves. You'll need to ask a customer support employee nicely to escalate it up the chain to someone who can help. Insulting them will likely just earn you more canned responses.

So it was not a good idea to call the support email clerk a dumb squeeling rat ?

Ive been doing that on Twitter, many of them are angry that i exposed Facebook as a scam where as the Board members and executives get most of their self esteem and idendity from having a lot of money.

[hd49728]

https://www.blockchain.com/bch/address/pr994hajwtscfvgcprmak52czn95uyg6gu6kysfpcq

This is a 10.5 BCH transaction to Coinbases BTC wallet.

where did the coins go ? Who or what emptied the wallet less than 3 months later.

Coinbase did that transaction because it is their platform and only they have private keys of wallets.

Your lost, so far, is an example that why people should not store their cryptocurrency on centralized platforms. Coinbase is centralized and they are too dutiful to obey regulations from governments too.

It is a lie that they say coins on their exchanges were moved, and they are unknown about it, are not responsible for it.

[BlackHatCoiner]

A company interested in their clients could take part in discussions made in these forums to help them face their problem. It'd be very pleasant for the forum users and they could also attract more people too. A perfect marketing move for a newly appeared company. I don't fault if they're as big as Coinbase; bitcointalk.org doesn't have the appropriate audience for them.

The members here said that only Coinbase employees can access these Coins with private keys.

I doubt the employees are able of such thing. Only the administrators, the ones who own Coinbase, can access everyone's keys. An employee could steal them really easily otherwise.

[Anonylz]

I don't see why members of this forum should be brought up in your issue or think they lied to you since they won't benefit anything by lying, it is very clear as day who is lying to you here, coinbase are the only people/person who can access your wallet and keys, they are in control and no one else, they should be able to access and trace what happened.

[i_am_viral]

In this situation, it appears that BCH funds were sent to a segwit BTC address. These are not funds that Coinbase has the ability to recover. However, the BCH protocol allows miners to sweep these funds in certain scenarios. This is what most likely occurred here. You can review this yourself by viewing the most recent transaction associated with the address these funds were sent to originally: https://www.blockchain.com/bch/address/pr994hajwtscfvgcprmak52czn95uyg6gu6kysfpcq

BCH addresses that begin with "p" denote that this is actually the cash address format for a segwit BTC address. You will notice that all the inputs are "p" addresses. This indicates that a BCH miner swept all the BCH funds from those transactions that were sent to segwit BTC addresses.

Kind regards,
Coinbase Support




how does a miner sweep all 10.5 butcoin cash in one transaction ? is he bullshitting me ?

have you people any idea what kind of an extreame damage the misinformation provided by the forum members here have caused me ?

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

Isn't it your fault that you're listening to people online in regards to deciding what you should do when it comes to your own money and your investments, to humor you though, I think that it's the employees that's making you look stupid.

[DannyHamilton]

In this situation, it appears that BCH funds were sent
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have you people any idea what kind of an extreame damage the misinformation provided by the forum members here have caused me ?

This is a Bitcoin forum.  You are asking a question about a scam-coin known as "Bitcoin Cash".  If Bitcoin Cash implemented a system by which a miner can steal funds from someone that accidentally creates a transaction using a public key and output script from a Bitcoin Segwit address, then that's new news to me (but not surprising at all).

I suggest you take this up with the creators and maintainers of Bitcoin Cash.

Honestly, though, it seems to me that you are grossly misunderstanding what has happened and therefore misrepresenting it in your questions. This misrepresentation has led a bunch of newbies, clout-chasers, and signature-advertisement spammers to regurgitate things they've seen written in the past that they think might be related to what you've asked, regardless of how accurate or helpful it actually is.  You shouldn't trust every bit of nonsense that you see written by random strangers on the internet. In this forum, you'll get some very good information from some experts, and a whole lot of crap from a lot of people that just like to see their own words in written form.  It's up to you to sift through the information and use critical thinking to determine what makes sense and what is nonsense.  It is not the fault of "us people" if you have:

1) Decided to use a scam-coin.
2) Created a bad transaction in that scam-coin.
3) Used something you've seen written by a random unknowledgeable person in a way that has caused "extreme damage to you".

[Hasan905]

They always warn users to use the correct address for any type of transaction and you are responsible if you make a transaction at the wrong address.  Only if you send your funds to Coinbase to an unregistered Gmail address, they can return it after a certain period (they did it before, I got my funds back, they sent me back the right amount).  But for any type of wallet address created for the right assets from Coinbase, they don’t have access to funding recovery.  If there is any possibility of accessing that address by a private key, it should be reserved only to higher authorities.  Otherwise, there will always be a risk of being compromised.
So if your problem is still not solved, I would recommend that you try to contact the authorities in any way and they can solve it for you.