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The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.
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September 22, 2021, 08:39:12 AM |
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The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.
There's always a separation of power for church and state for most of all democratic country. Besides it was stated in the bible that people should honor the law so it means its not bad in terms of religion since Christ mention it on one of the Bible verses. It will be bad if there's a corruption involve bu the government in general is good because it was establish to properly manage the people's life. The corrupt politicians is the real evil.
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In my own opinion i do not think you need to force christians to participate in politics if it's against their will because they have their own beliefs and principles. Politics involves corruption and i know that they are real evil especially when they hold such power to control everything. They're liars.
That's why i understood why christians don't want to support such system.
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September 22, 2021, 02:27:32 PM |
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We can't can't blame people who their beliefs or religious practice are against corruption which chooses not to participate in politics because the foundation of politics was built on negative ambition before they could reach the position of power this is what changed people immediate they step into political journey even those who are also a Christian changed into a bad person cause that what they have to do if they don't want the big brother in their party to kill them, they have to submit to their decision.
Our leader is not the ruling us, it is their godfather.
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King David in the Old Testament is a good example. He was a Christian even thouth the term "Christian" wasn't around yet. How do we know? David said in Psalm 110:1: The LORD says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.” David's Lord was Jesus, being talked to by the Father. The point is that David became the leader of God's people. His fame spread throughout the known world. He was a prophet and the top political leader at the same time. Christians of today must maintain their Christianity. If they do, they have the right and duty to pick up their power. But ig they don't pick it up, they will be held guiltless by God, even if their position in Heaven isn't as great as it could have been. Where is the Christian's power? Matthew 7:7-12 Jesus said: 7“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
9“Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Guess who are doing this that Jesus spoke in politics? The crooks and criminals in politics, that's who. This speech is taken from the Sermon on the Mount, where Jesus is speaking to believers and unbeliever, although it is assumed that most of them are believers. But check verse 8. Jesus says "everyone," not only believers. So, when evil unbelievers ask, they will receive, just like evil believers. Check verse 11, Jesus calls them all evil, making no distinction between the believers and the unbelievers. All are evil. Saint Paul and others tell us that God is not a respecter of persons. God punishes the wicked for their wickedness, and rewards the believers for the good they do. But He gives to all what they ask for. You Christians. Get into politics and straighten the world out. If you don't, you will be punished for not doing the good you could have done. You have just as much power to ask and receive good things as the wicked unbelievers have to ask and receive bad things for the world. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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September 22, 2021, 03:53:57 PM |
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The world today is suffering because alot of Christians good people don't participate in Today politics
Some parts of the world suffer more because there's no freedom. As long as good people (not only Christians) cannot take part in the politics, say honest opinion about their government, have freedom of speech, etc., those countries won't develop and prosper. They're always good people and bad people in any religion.
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Christians in politics? No thank you...
We had chritians in politics in Europe in middleages and that was enough. You who promotes this crazy idea, what do you expect from it? Christians will just push their own religion and ideas by force to others, what is this good for?
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September 23, 2021, 01:57:38 PM |
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The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.
The Catholics are already in politics and we have a lot of them in Africa. What else? But how did you know that Abraham Lincoln conquered his enemies spiritually? Let us not argue the physical aspect first. I like to read about this spiritual part so I can learn more of what I do not know about Mr Lincoln.
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September 23, 2021, 02:18:16 PM |
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The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.
Is being Christian the real root of the reason why these people are not participating?, I don't think so. As people in this thread already stated that the Bible doesn't condemned people because of their participation in politics. I think the true nature of reason would be their lack of confidence that their vote would change a thing. That their single vote wouldn't matter amongst those millions of votes being tallied. That is the reason I'm thinking of.
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September 23, 2021, 03:07:12 PM |
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The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.
Politics is a dirty game I don't think Christian's should get involved in that. This involves lieing, killing, a lot more you should know better, all of this hinders one from moving swiftly in the way of the Lord, no sinner is a Christian just so you could know. I think you have other ideas and plans,you should be more plain please. Christian's involved in politics aren't doing well at the end of the day.
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeee ! they don't have the courage, honesty, duty, honor and integrity to lead, and specially kill. or they ain't christians. for example pedos love christians, as pedos can rape christian kids, and christian parents are too weak to ask for real justice : death, and even weaker to not being able to apply it themselves.
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When the people of the world will get that covid was intentionally released to frame china, steal the election from trump, assure massive bail outs and foster the forced vaccination agendas...they will forget, like 911, wmds in irak, uss liberty or pedogate.
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The holy bible says "“Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid. "Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
This is an instruction from Jesus, God's people are the light of the world, Christains are meant to be in power not under whims of the ungodly. Many Christains have forgotten their identity that's why the church in this age isn't powerful
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The holy bible says "“Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid. "Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
This is an instruction from Jesus, God's people are the light of the world, Christains are meant to be in power not under whims of the ungodly. Many Christains have forgotten their identity that's why the church in this age isn't powerful
Crap shit, true christians aren't from and of and for this world. It's just a temporary short term adventure. Nothing more. The problem is that true christians can't exercize power justly, they always get conned, scammed and trapped, and worst once even they realize they are, they are too weak to be able to remediate the situation. "the church" is just an illusion used by TBTP to condition you and make you accept their dominance and more importantly the dominance of those the captured "church" support. have you seen a single movement among so called christian american church regarding pedogate? 0. silence. if you want the fbi is the arm of the inversers, the "church" included msm is their voice. both need to die and perish. they are worthless. they are all just the hollowed shell left by those who have conquered them, because of their weaknesses, and used as decoy. be smarter. "your" god"s" don't need intermediation to be with you. the real question is it only possible to have a peaceful and happynessfull existence on life? but if you believe so, untold amount of killing, murder and extermination will be necessary to even attempt to have a chance at it. and that may be the trick... to defeat those enslaving mankind, a violence, beyond all beliefs is necessary, but is it worth it? some say yes, some say no, but to question of the necessity of violence is already a trap by the inversers/enslavers. for example what's more efficient to defeat those seeking to annihilate america? prayer groups? or strategic IEDs + assassination campaign targeting their children in the hamptons, beverly hills, nice part of chirak or manhattan? we all know the answer... or a total lone wolf / swarm against all fbi families? look at the talibans... how do they won? prayers, prayers, prayers and even more prayers, but backed by deeds... against the "infidels" or force of the "inversers"/occupants... or you can go pray before the minister of propaganda (cnn) or execute him... what do you think works? it's a bitcoin forum, don't forget it. PoW... not poc... (c=concept). and then traitors will tell you that assassinating "leana wen" for example, or don lemon will make martyr of them, pure lie. they will at first be replaced instantly and forgotten, however if the replacements are murdered too, there, the next ones, will start to doubt, until they decline even if forced. that's battlefield inversion. or you chose to live the adventure... non violently among the demons, remember they can only kill you (really kill you) once... that's it. 1 time. pfff, losers. and FYI the former minister of information and communication of occupied afghanistan was killed before his office, you can find cool pics on the uncensored (or original) internet... in the "green" zone, and that's where it starts to get interesting... "green" zone killing ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . infiltration.
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When the people of the world will get that covid was intentionally released to frame china, steal the election from trump, assure massive bail outs and foster the forced vaccination agendas...they will forget, like 911, wmds in irak, uss liberty or pedogate.
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September 24, 2021, 08:56:48 AM |
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The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.
There's always a separation of power for church and state for most of all democratic country. Besides it was stated in the bible that people should honor the law so it means its not bad in terms of religion since Christ mention it on one of the Bible verses. It will be bad if there's a corruption involve bu the government in general is good because it was establish to properly manage the people's life. The corrupt politicians is the real evil. This is what comes to my mind after reading the post, the separation of the church and the state. That is the advantage for the church so that the state could not interfere nor control the church. The sole purpose of the Christian church is to proclaim the gospel, teaching people moral values, denouncing evil in the society and working towards the common good. Let just leave it like that and pray that the officials in the government will do their job to take care of the people and the economy, peace and prosperity.
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September 24, 2021, 11:45:20 AM |
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Crap shit, true christians aren't from and of and for this world. It's just a temporary short term adventure. Nothing more.
Our time in earth should not be wasted we have a responsibility to be fruitful and productive. God created Man and put him in the earth to dominate and rule over this world. Christians believe on the last day we will be called to our celestial home.
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Worldwide Christianity people are more and also they rule most countries so if being a leader is a sin them all those leaders are sinners.
African countries has different religions and traditional so people from their place are ruling and there is no barrier for anyone to become the if they are capable of.
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damn, that sounds like a nightmare. I don't trust politicians and I don't trust religions(any type) and now you want a religious nut to join the national politics?
I agree with mu_enrico, not enough good people are joining the politics. no offense to you @OP but being a religious person doesn't make a person automatically good or automatically be a good politician.
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The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.
Not just Christian's alone..but I feel religious people are running away from politics thinking that it's for the unbelievers ( people who are non religious). But I believe if religious people who have the fear of God in them should be into politics. There will be little hope in good leadership
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for hundreds of years.. religion was government.. then some decided they needed something different. which is why politics came about
having 'god' as president where no one can question his motives nor question his messengers (the real leaders) made for a totalitarian and tyranical leadership. you cant de-throne 'god' because you cant even see where he sits to throw him off the seat
so people decided to get away from those countries and start new countries with new laws. not controlled by religion
government is suppose to be a different option than religion and only mention religion to pander to religious people to win them over to politics.
if government absorbs religion fully then it will cause more issues than benefits for people.
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September 24, 2021, 02:56:55 PM |
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The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.
Let's keep religion out of politics and out of government. Keep your preferred ancient myth to yourself and your psychiatrist. Nobody needs to hear about your delusion.
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