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February 21, 2022, 07:01:20 AM
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Maybe they can settle this out of court so that Casimero can fight Butler as scheduled this April.
I hope it would happen that way but this is business, it's the interest of the business that should be followed, if Casimero broke a contract, then the MP promotion has the right to sue him as they also invested in him, besides, Casimero would not be popular if he did not sign with the MP promotion, unfortunately, Casimero is not contented with this popularity now.

Yes, hopefully it won't be that case. MP can sue and ruin his career in case that's the case.

Or, it's also possible that it's just another way to hype this fight and bring the attention, negative writeups still
a good way to advertise and have a discussion about him.

But in the serious note, I also hope that he will continue his success. Winning this fight will bring him up and
continue holding his belt..

Nah, I seriously don't think that this is a kind of publicity stunt to hype the fight and besides, this issue is too negative for Casimero if the goal is to bring an attention to his name and if indeed this issue were true then he will likely be sued by the MP Promotions if that's the case. They better settle it privately soon because Casimero's career will be endangered.

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Casimero is a champion, I think he can find a good gym to train. He is into a big fight so the team will certainly invest on that, besides, Casimero is the favorite, so most likely he will win the fight and would have a chance to fight Inoue if the monster will accept the challenge.
That's very likely. About the training, they won't just go to a place without the best gym to go to. It's all been planned and they have a game plan to follow.
We're just waiting for the day that Casimero will win against Butler. It could be hard as what the others are thinking and Butler will give him a good fight. But in the end, most of the speculations are into him favoring that he'll win this match.

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February 21, 2022, 10:10:28 AM
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Casimero is a champion, I think he can find a good gym to train. He is into a big fight so the team will certainly invest on that, besides, Casimero is the favorite, so most likely he will win the fight and would have a chance to fight Inoue if the monster will accept the challenge.
That's very likely. About the training, they won't just go to a place without the best gym to go to. It's all been planned and they have a game plan to follow.
We're just waiting for the day that Casimero will win against Butler. It could be hard as what the others are thinking and Butler will give him a good fight. But in the end, most of the speculations are into him favoring that he'll win this match.
I think the hardest thing here for Casimero is to get on the right weight, but about the fight, I guess he will dominate as usual. Butler is just an aggressive fighter, Casimero would not have a hard time using his timing to hurt with this counter punch, I can see that kind of scenario that's why I'm confident.

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Casimero is a champion, I think he can find a good gym to train. He is into a big fight so the team will certainly invest on that, besides, Casimero is the favorite, so most likely he will win the fight and would have a chance to fight Inoue if the monster will accept the challenge.
That's very likely. About the training, they won't just go to a place without the best gym to go to. It's all been planned and they have a game plan to follow.
We're just waiting for the day that Casimero will win against Butler. It could be hard as what the others are thinking and Butler will give him a good fight. But in the end, most of the speculations are into him favoring that he'll win this match.
I think the hardest thing here for Casimero is to get on the right weight, but about the fight, I guess he will dominate as usual. Butler is just an aggressive fighter, Casimero would not have a hard time using his timing to hurt with this counter punch, I can see that kind of scenario that's why I'm confident.
There's still enough time for him to get the right weight and I'm sure that his team is strict on it so that when the weigh day comes, there's no problem by that day.
About the possible outcome of the actual fight, we still don't know but what we're all thinking is that he's going to win the fight no matter what. And after that, maybe a few months after his fight and recovery, the next match is in.

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February 21, 2022, 11:34:00 AM
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Casimero is a champion, I think he can find a good gym to train. He is into a big fight so the team will certainly invest on that, besides, Casimero is the favorite, so most likely he will win the fight and would have a chance to fight Inoue if the monster will accept the challenge.
That's very likely. About the training, they won't just go to a place without the best gym to go to. It's all been planned and they have a game plan to follow.
We're just waiting for the day that Casimero will win against Butler. It could be hard as what the others are thinking and Butler will give him a good fight. But in the end, most of the speculations are into him favoring that he'll win this match.
I think the hardest thing here for Casimero is to get on the right weight, but about the fight, I guess he will dominate as usual. Butler is just an aggressive fighter, Casimero would not have a hard time using his timing to hurt with this counter punch, I can see that kind of scenario that's why I'm confident.
There's still enough time for him to get the right weight and I'm sure that his team is strict on it so that when the weigh day comes, there's no problem by that day.
About the possible outcome of the actual fight, we still don't know but what we're all thinking is that he's going to win the fight no matter what. And after that, maybe a few months after his fight and recovery, the next match is in.

I have trust in him but he has some weight issues as previously discussed in this thread, so he has to beat that problem first, and then his chance of winning will be the same or will even increase. You know what, Casimero is an exciting fighter but if he has a problem in conditioning, then we might see the unexpected to happen. Well, I hope it will not happen.

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February 21, 2022, 12:00:25 PM
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Casimero is a champion, I think he can find a good gym to train. He is into a big fight so the team will certainly invest on that, besides, Casimero is the favorite, so most likely he will win the fight and would have a chance to fight Inoue if the monster will accept the challenge.
That's very likely. About the training, they won't just go to a place without the best gym to go to. It's all been planned and they have a game plan to follow.
We're just waiting for the day that Casimero will win against Butler. It could be hard as what the others are thinking and Butler will give him a good fight. But in the end, most of the speculations are into him favoring that he'll win this match.
I think the hardest thing here for Casimero is to get on the right weight, but about the fight, I guess he will dominate as usual. Butler is just an aggressive fighter, Casimero would not have a hard time using his timing to hurt with this counter punch, I can see that kind of scenario that's why I'm confident.
There's still enough time for him to get the right weight and I'm sure that his team is strict on it so that when the weigh day comes, there's no problem by that day.
About the possible outcome of the actual fight, we still don't know but what we're all thinking is that he's going to win the fight no matter what. And after that, maybe a few months after his fight and recovery, the next match is in.
As long as there is some expert in this team, a dietitian to control his weight and what he eats then there will be no issues. The problem is, as stated above, is that he has some problem with the financial support. He still have some time in his side though, adjust his diet and make the weight cut and rehydrate after so that he can maintain his power.

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February 21, 2022, 12:03:35 PM
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Casimero is a champion, I think he can find a good gym to train. He is into a big fight so the team will certainly invest on that, besides, Casimero is the favorite, so most likely he will win the fight and would have a chance to fight Inoue if the monster will accept the challenge.
That's very likely. About the training, they won't just go to a place without the best gym to go to. It's all been planned and they have a game plan to follow.
We're just waiting for the day that Casimero will win against Butler. It could be hard as what the others are thinking and Butler will give him a good fight. But in the end, most of the speculations are into him favoring that he'll win this match.
I think the hardest thing here for Casimero is to get on the right weight, but about the fight, I guess he will dominate as usual. Butler is just an aggressive fighter, Casimero would not have a hard time using his timing to hurt with this counter punch, I can see that kind of scenario that's why I'm confident.
There's still enough time for him to get the right weight and I'm sure that his team is strict on it so that when the weigh day comes, there's no problem by that day.
About the possible outcome of the actual fight, we still don't know but what we're all thinking is that he's going to win the fight no matter what. And after that, maybe a few months after his fight and recovery, the next match is in.
As long as there is some expert in this team, a dietitian to control his weight and what he eats then there will be no issues. The problem is, as stated above, is that he has some problem with the financial support. He still have some time in his side though, adjust his diet and make the weight cut and rehydrate after so that he can maintain his power.
Who would support him? I think he already made money in the past and that for sure if he manages his funds properly, he will be able to prepare for this big fight. I understand that we are still in a pandemic now, but it's their responsibility to ensure that they are fully ready and therefore they have to prepare for it and do all the necessary things to achieve it.
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February 21, 2022, 12:44:34 PM
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Maybe they can settle this out of court so that Casimero can fight Butler as scheduled this April.
I hope it would happen that way but this is business, it's the interest of the business that should be followed, if Casimero broke a contract, then the MP promotion has the right to sue him as they also invested in him, besides, Casimero would not be popular if he did not sign with the MP promotion, unfortunately, Casimero is not contented with this popularity now.

Yes, hopefully it won't be that case. MP can sue and ruin his career in case that's the case.

Or, it's also possible that it's just another way to hype this fight and bring the attention, negative writeups still
a good way to advertise and have a discussion about him.

But in the serious note, I also hope that he will continue his success. Winning this fight will bring him up and
continue holding his belt..

Nah, I seriously don't think that this is a kind of publicity stunt to hype the fight and besides, this issue is too negative for Casimero if the goal is to bring an attention to his name and if indeed this issue were true then he will likely be sued by the MP Promotions if that's the case. They better settle it privately soon because Casimero's career will be endangered.
They should address this before the match to happen because this might be another reason to postpone the game and the consequences is, Casimero will lose the belt. This is a serious case I believe and not just a stunt, he's on a big trouble here if ever. His team can't help him aside from settlement, better to talk to the complainant now to cancel the case.

Casimero is a good boxer, though we all know him as a trash talker and this case is really possible to happen considering his attitude most probably they have a strong evidence against Casimero, better to act faster now. 
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February 21, 2022, 01:14:19 PM
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Casimero is a good boxer, though we all know him as a trash talker and this case is really possible to happen considering his attitude most probably they have a strong evidence against Casimero, better to act faster now. 
Bring the legal problem to the court, it's hard to speculate it here. Before I remember Pacman also have some lawsuit but the fight still happen, so it's hard to speculate because the court will do a due process if they decided to sue him.
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February 21, 2022, 02:30:02 PM
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I have trust in him but he has some weight issues as previously discussed in this thread, so he has to beat that problem first, and then his chance of winning will be the same or will even increase. You know what, Casimero is an exciting fighter but if he has a problem in conditioning, then we might see the unexpected to happen. Well, I hope it will not happen.

I think John Riel Casimero doesn't really have any problem at all in maintaining or increasing and decreasing his weight I really think that he can do it properly in the given schedule of the fight that is April 22, he surely has time to freshen up and take that weight off, and if you would look at his previous vlog, he is just playing a videogame of racing in the comfort of his home and chilling, he's a boxer and surely knows what he is doing.




Who would support him? I think he already made money in the past and that for sure if he manages his funds properly, he will be able to prepare for this big fight. I understand that we are still in a pandemic now, but it's their responsibility to ensure that they are fully ready and therefore they have to prepare for it and do all the necessary things to achieve it.

I really think he doesn't have any financial problems, and I really think that he has a team that keeps him on track of his body weight and what he would do when the fight is near, the only problem that I think he is facing right now was the case he is filing against him was the 'acts of lasciviousness' complaint from a minor, a complaint was filed against him by a 17-year-old minor that has happened on June 7, 2021, and accused the boxer of committing sexual abuse inside a room at the City Park Hotel along Bonifacio road around 11 o'clock in the evening, This was surely a serious case if proven guilty, here is the SITE


Bring the legal problem to the court, it's hard to speculate it here. Before I remember Pacman also have some lawsuit but the fight still happen, so it's hard to speculate because the court will do a due process if they decided to sue him.

If the case moves along then Casimero would not be let off out of the country until the case was closed, and likely a replacement boxer could fight Butler, let's say Jonas Sultan, I really don't know about the case until proven guilty but maybe the case is not true, because John Riel Casimero is just chilling in his home, or we likely not seeing him going to do something like this at all.
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February 21, 2022, 05:28:09 PM
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Casimero is a good boxer, though we all know him as a trash talker and this case is really possible to happen considering his attitude most probably they have a strong evidence against Casimero, better to act faster now. 
Bring the legal problem to the court, it's hard to speculate it here. Before I remember Pacman also have some lawsuit but the fight still happen, so it's hard to speculate because the court will do a due process if they decided to sue him.

For now, I think MP are busy with Pacman's campaign, if in case there's a problem between them

it's much better to settle it privately, both can be harm if they'll allow this issue being publicize and critics will fest from both
sides, It won't help Pacman campaign and it will only mess up with Casimero's career.

We don't know the real score, but in anyhow I'll be more interested in the fight it's been due after that postponement.
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February 21, 2022, 05:43:11 PM
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I think John Riel Casimero doesn't really have any problem at all in maintaining or increasing and decreasing his weight I really think that he can do it properly in the given schedule of the fight that is April 22, he surely has time to freshen up and take that weight off, and if you would look at his previous vlog, he is just playing a videogame of racing in the comfort of his home and chilling, he's a boxer and surely knows what he is doing.
Yeah, he's professional boxer and if it's just about weight. It's a major thing that he should take into account that he knows what he's doing and it's not a concern.
He can put himself into a certain training that will shape him up when it's about time for him to take up a match against Butler. There's a time for the training and he has ample time doing it. And he has a time to enjoy for things that he wants to do just like what's in the picture.


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February 21, 2022, 06:18:52 PM
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Casimero is a champion, I think he can find a good gym to train. He is into a big fight so the team will certainly invest on that, besides, Casimero is the favorite, so most likely he will win the fight and would have a chance to fight Inoue if the monster will accept the challenge.
That's very likely. About the training, they won't just go to a place without the best gym to go to. It's all been planned and they have a game plan to follow.
We're just waiting for the day that Casimero will win against Butler. It could be hard as what the others are thinking and Butler will give him a good fight. But in the end, most of the speculations are into him favoring that he'll win this match.
I think the hardest thing here for Casimero is to get on the right weight, but about the fight, I guess he will dominate as usual. Butler is just an aggressive fighter, Casimero would not have a hard time using his timing to hurt with this counter punch, I can see that kind of scenario that's why I'm confident.
This is also almost the same as a training problem I think, and of course Casimero and Tim must have planned this too.
There's still time and quite a lot of time they have at the moment I think he's a pretty disciplined boxer plus a professional team he can handle this kind of stuff.
regarding the fight i won't worry too much and still have faith in Casimero because as you said Butler is just an aggressive boxer and it just takes some strategy that is mature enough for Casimero to win

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February 21, 2022, 07:26:54 PM
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There's still enough time for him to get the right weight and I'm sure that his team is strict on it so that when the weigh day comes, there's no problem by that day.
About the possible outcome of the actual fight, we still don't know but what we're all thinking is that he's going to win the fight no matter what. And after that, maybe a few months after his fight and recovery, the next match is in.

I have trust in him but he has some weight issues as previously discussed in this thread, so he has to beat that problem first, and then his chance of winning will be the same or will even increase. You know what, Casimero is an exciting fighter but if he has a problem in conditioning, then we might see the unexpected to happen. Well, I hope it will not happen.
I think that they won't do the same problem or deal with that issue as they're close to the fight month. I'm sure that he and his team will get to beat that weighing issue that he had experienced before. I get the point that if it's about conditioning, he really has to make some changes and improve himself.

As long as there is some expert in this team, a dietitian to control his weight and what he eats then there will be no issues. The problem is, as stated above, is that he has some problem with the financial support. He still have some time in his side though, adjust his diet and make the weight cut and rehydrate after so that he can maintain his power.
They can manage to control it. They don't want to run into a problem that they've met before so that's going to be solved already with his team. Addressing it is important so they won't rush into things when they're close to the day of the fight.

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February 21, 2022, 07:30:36 PM
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I think John Riel Casimero doesn't really have any problem at all in maintaining or increasing and decreasing his weight I really think that he can do it properly in the given schedule of the fight that is April 22, he surely has time to freshen up and take that weight off, and if you would look at his previous vlog, he is just playing a videogame of racing in the comfort of his home and chilling, he's a boxer and surely knows what he is doing.
Yeah, he's professional boxer and if it's just about weight. It's a major thing that he should take into account that he knows what he's doing and it's not a concern.
He can put himself into a certain training that will shape him up when it's about time for him to take up a match against Butler. There's a time for the training and he has ample time doing it. And he has a time to enjoy for things that he wants to do just like what's in the picture.
They wouldn't let for everything to end up on being unprepared for this upcoming fight and for sure it is the same whenever Casimero does have upcoming fights even though this one might really be that

delayed but just like on what most people been saying that everything should be in shape and come prepared even though there might be some health issues but good thing that it wasn't really just too

serious and now this fight is coming in to happen then both camps would really set out those preparations.

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February 21, 2022, 09:51:54 PM
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For now, I think MP are busy with Pacman's campaign, if in case there's a problem between them

it's much better to settle it privately, both can be harm if they'll allow this issue being publicize and critics will fest from both
sides, It won't help Pacman campaign and it will only mess up with Casimero's career.

We don't know the real score, but in anyhow I'll be more interested in the fight it's been due after that postponement.

Yup, Manny is too busy with the presidential campaign and have time to settle this one with Casimero.

I also think that Sean Gibbons is calling the shots as he is the president of MP Promotions so with that alone i don't think that this will be settled as Team Casimero has a personal grudge against this guy.

I'm just hoping that they will reveal their new management team/promoter so we will not speculate anymore and Casimero can focus on his training.

Eight weeks to go, if Johnriel doesn't start early his rigid training then he might have difficulty again on making the required weight.

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February 21, 2022, 10:37:22 PM
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I have trust in him but he has some weight issues as previously discussed in this thread, so he has to beat that problem first, and then his chance of winning will be the same or will even increase. You know what, Casimero is an exciting fighter but if he has a problem in conditioning, then we might see the unexpected to happen. Well, I hope it will not happen.

I think John Riel Casimero doesn't really have any problem at all in maintaining or increasing and decreasing his weight I really think that he can do it properly in the given schedule of the fight that is April 22, he surely has time to freshen up and take that weight off, and if you would look at his previous vlog, he is just playing a videogame of racing in the comfort of his home and chilling, he's a boxer and surely knows what he is doing.

Both of you should understand that Casimero has had no weight problem at all since the beginning. It's about his viral condition that can happen anytime even as we speak. Before that happened, he is doing fine on his training, relaxing, chilling but still with a healthy lifestyle look at what happened. It means regardless of his proper training, that health issue is alarming.

His health depends on his conditioning coach from now on. Let's hope that he will be healthy all way long.

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February 21, 2022, 10:42:32 PM
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I hope that John Riel Casimero won't be distracted or affected by the current cases he is facing.

It happened way back in June last year and the case was filed last week. link

As per the primary response of his team, it was a fabricated case. His legal team should properly addressed it right away without giving distraction to Casimero as much as they can so he will just be focused on his conditioning. Following the progress of this news.

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February 21, 2022, 11:29:35 PM
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Yeah, he's professional boxer and if it's just about weight. It's a major thing that he should take into account that he knows what he's doing and it's not a concern.
He can put himself into a certain training that will shape him up when it's about time for him to take up a match against Butler. There's a time for the training and he has ample time doing it. And he has a time to enjoy for things that he wants to do just like what's in the picture.

Yup! he can properly take care of his body, I think he best knows himself very well, and right now there are 1 month left for preparing for this fight, how I really wish he would not be switched with another fighter with the Butler fight because that would be shame and the only problem he has right now is the case given to him, that his camp has said was just fabricated.


Both of you should understand that Casimero has had no weight problem at all since the beginning. It's about his viral condition that can happen anytime even as we speak. Before that happened, he is doing fine on his training, relaxing, chilling but still with a healthy lifestyle look at what happened. It means regardless of his proper training, that health issue is alarming.

His health depends on his conditioning coach from now on. Let's hope that he will be healthy all way long.

Definitely, he doesn't have any problem at all with changing his weight and the fight has still 1-month preparation so given that long period of time he can surely relax anytime he wants, and I am totally aware that he is a boxer so he doesn't really need any Dietary advice or anything, and yes his health is in top priority when it comes to anything and I agree that anytime that gastric problem that he has back then can surely attack anytime soon.

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February 21, 2022, 11:56:15 PM
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I think the hardest thing here for Casimero is to get on the right weight, but about the fight, I guess he will dominate as usual. Butler is just an aggressive fighter, Casimero would not have a hard time using his timing to hurt with this counter punch, I can see that kind of scenario that's why I'm confident.

Casimero is always on the right weight.

However, the concern about now is he has a medical issue at the same time that might put him in a hard maintaining of weight on the weigh-in. The adjustment will have a big impact on his usual training since there will be a change.

Let's not speculate things early though and trust that all people involved in maintaining his health will do their best.

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