[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[freedomgo]

The rumors towards their fight with Inoue what makes me follow his channel since I want to get update directly and to see how he can make this huge match became reality and if he cannot successfully arrange a match on Inoue's camp well maybe we can see a less hype for his fight since this is actually what people want to see these days.

I don't trust the information that coming from his mouth, he said before that last 2021 he will fight Inoue but it did not happen, so maybe he is just trying to make some hype, making an announcement even if it's not yet official. Casimero is desperate to have a big fight, hopefully, Inoue accept the challenge in a unification match.

[Jating]

The rumors towards their fight with Inoue what makes me follow his channel since I want to get update directly and to see how he can make this huge match became reality and if he cannot successfully arrange a match on Inoue's camp well maybe we can see a less hype for his fight since this is actually what people want to see these days.

I don't trust the information that coming from his mouth, he said before that last 2021 he will fight Inoue but it did not happen, so maybe he is just trying to make some hype, making an announcement even if it's not yet official. Casimero is desperate to have a big fight, hopefully, Inoue accept the challenge in a unification match.

Definitely, nothing is final specially if it's coming from the mouth of the fighter. I remember Ryan Garcia, in his official social media accounts, he give us a hint that he will be fighting Manny Pacquiao next, but it didn't materialized. So same here, we will only know if the fight with Inoue will happen if we see an official announcement from either camps promotional outfit. So we may have to wait a bit further. But definitely, this fight is doable.

[stadus]

The rumors towards their fight with Inoue what makes me follow his channel since I want to get update directly and to see how he can make this huge match became reality and if he cannot successfully arrange a match on Inoue's camp well maybe we can see a less hype for his fight since this is actually what people want to see these days.

I don't trust the information that coming from his mouth, he said before that last 2021 he will fight Inoue but it did not happen, so maybe he is just trying to make some hype, making an announcement even if it's not yet official. Casimero is desperate to have a big fight, hopefully, Inoue accept the challenge in a unification match.

Definitely, nothing is final specially if it's coming from the mouth of the fighter. I remember Ryan Garcia, in his official social media accounts, he give us a hint that he will be fighting Manny Pacquiao next, but it didn't materialized. So same here, we will only know if the fight with Inoue will happen if we see an official announcement from either camps promotional outfit. So we may have to wait a bit further. But definitely, this fight is doable.

Even Inoue actually confirms that he will have a fight with Casimero IIRC, but the same thing, nothing happens as in the end it still defends on the promoter if they are willing to invest in the fight, and knowing the Top Rank CEO, he will not easily risk Inoue's undefeated record on a fighter that has a capability of beating the beast.

[TimeTeller]

The rumors towards their fight with Inoue what makes me follow his channel since I want to get update directly and to see how he can make this huge match became reality and if he cannot successfully arrange a match on Inoue's camp well maybe we can see a less hype for his fight since this is actually what people want to see these days.

I don't trust the information that coming from his mouth, he said before that last 2021 he will fight Inoue but it did not happen, so maybe he is just trying to make some hype, making an announcement even if it's not yet official. Casimero is desperate to have a big fight, hopefully, Inoue accept the challenge in a unification match.

Definitely, nothing is final specially if it's coming from the mouth of the fighter. I remember Ryan Garcia, in his official social media accounts, he give us a hint that he will be fighting Manny Pacquiao next, but it didn't materialized. So same here, we will only know if the fight with Inoue will happen if we see an official announcement from either camps promotional outfit. So we may have to wait a bit further. But definitely, this fight is doable.

Even Inoue actually confirms that he will have a fight with Casimero IIRC, but the same thing, nothing happens as in the end it still defends on the promoter if they are willing to invest in the fight, and knowing the Top Rank CEO, he will not easily risk Inoue's undefeated record on a fighter that has a capability of beating the beast.

The fight with Inoue will only materialize if this fight with Butler will happen first and if Casimero will beat him.
So at the moment, we need to wait for this fight to happen. And if Butler will win, I don't think Inoue's fight will push thru.
People are looking forward for Casimero's next fight because that will possibly determine his next fight.
We can't rely on the wants of the boxers because at the end of the day, it depends on their respective promoters.

[izsara]

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Definitely, nothing is final specially if it's coming from the mouth of the fighter. I remember Ryan Garcia, in his official social media accounts, he give us a hint that he will be fighting Manny Pacquiao next, but it didn't materialized. So same here, we will only know if the fight with Inoue will happen if we see an official announcement from either camps promotional outfit. So we may have to wait a bit further. But definitely, this fight is doable.

But on the other hand isn't that Garcia's own wish if I'm not mistaken and indeed in this case it might be a little different because Inoue did this more than once which made some people start to not believe it.
I personally also more believe that this is one they made to push something new. This will inevitably happen but the time is that we are still confused about this.

[Ziskinberg]

Most viewers are speculating that he just wants to focus on vlogging for now and we can't blame him for that because we can't deny the fact that vlogging could also be a good source of income. He might have his own reasons but I sure that whatever it is, it's also for his own good but I hope that he could also consider grabbing the right opportunities for him.

I don't see it that way. His blogging is just more of a side trip while he's out of the practice.

Let's should not put weight on his blogging as that's more of the fun side and we have seen him more active in boxing compared to that.

Should be clear now.

It's called vlogging mate because it's a video.

Yes, we have the same opinion. Casimero may be recording him self or doing live but that doesn't mean that he is into vlogging as his main source of income because he was just doing it to update his fans daily basis or weekly rather than giving a statement to the mainstream media. Sure he gets paid on youtube platform too because of the views he gets but it's good for him because he's putting an effort.

[YuginKadoya]

The fight with Inoue will only materialize if this fight with Butler will happen first and if Casimero will beat him.
So at the moment, we need to wait for this fight to happen. And if Butler will win, I don't think Inoue's fight will push thru.
People are looking forward for Casimero's next fight because that will possibly determine his next fight.
We can't rely on the wants of the boxers because at the end of the day, it depends on their respective promoters.

In what may happen in the future, we may not know, and we can not say if Casimero or Butler will win, but that fight with Inoue is a long push through, and you are right if Casimero would win against Butler then he can surely fight whoever he wants but for me, I really want an Inoue VS Casimero fight, that Donaire VS Inoue was truly a great fight to watch but I believe that Casimero will do a great job when he fights Inoue, the power and speed, and the durability was in John Riel Casimero until his 35th of age right now Casimero is at 32 years of age I want to see him take on Inoue on his prime, to the 28 years old Naoya Inoue.

But on the other hand isn't that Garcia's own wish if I'm not mistaken and indeed in this case it might be a little different because Inoue did this more than once which made some people start to not believe it.
I personally also more believe that this is one they made to push something new. This will inevitably happen but the time is that we are still confused about this.

There is a lot of rumors that a Ryan Garcia VS Naoya Inoue will take place, but it is already in the news that a John Riel Casimero VS Naoya Inoue will also take place, I see there are a lot of boxers that are eyeing the young Naoya Inoue, I don't know why, but there are certain people that keep pushing it Ryan Garcia has 21 Fights and 21 Wins and Naoya Inoue has 22 Fights and 22 Wins, both are undefeated, this is also another exciting fight to watch, but I prefer to see a Casimero VS Inoue fight first.

It's called vlogging mate because it's a video.

Yes, we have the same opinion. Casimero may be recording him self or doing live but that doesn't mean that he is into vlogging as his main source of income because he was just doing it to update his fans daily basis or weekly rather than giving a statement to the mainstream media. Sure he gets paid on youtube platform too because of the views he gets but it's good for him because he's putting an effort.

I agree, 1st it is not a way of living for him, but it will surely help a little with his career, and income aswell, and 2nd is not active with his Vlogging most of the time the one that is making those videos were his brother Jayson Casimero and I think both of them have access on that account and both are sharing the profit that they are getting, so if one is busy with his fights the other is busy promoting or making Vlog.

[Viscore]

The rumors towards their fight with Inoue what makes me follow his channel since I want to get update directly and to see how he can make this huge match became reality and if he cannot successfully arrange a match on Inoue's camp well maybe we can see a less hype for his fight since this is actually what people want to see these days.

I don't trust the information that coming from his mouth, he said before that last 2021 he will fight Inoue but it did not happen, so maybe he is just trying to make some hype, making an announcement even if it's not yet official. Casimero is desperate to have a big fight, hopefully, Inoue accept the challenge in a unification match.

Aside from making false news to make some hype, his also making a scene and get the attention of Inoue's camp to fight him but because of that Inoue have lost interest to Casimero and Bob Arum probably have another plan on his mind that's why they aren't talking back at the issue that Casimero made.

Soon, this match will probably happen after Casimero defeats Butler. After then, Inoue and Bob Arum will likely to agree.

[molsewid]

Aside from making false news to make some hype, his also making a scene and get the attention of Inoue's camp to fight him but because of that Inoue have lost interest to Casimero and Bob Arum probably have another plan on his mind that's why they aren't talking back at the issue that Casimero made.

Soon, this match will probably happen after Casimero defeats Butler. After then, Inoue and Bob Arum will likely to agree.

So this might be his way to caught up the attention of Inoue's Team, I don't think this kind of moves will work out instead Casimero needs to focus on his fight against Butler and fortunately win the game so that he can have the chance to fight Inoue inside the ring. With all the issues being connected to Casimero I do hope it would not affect his career and his standing as a fighter. I am also rooting for him to win the fight against Butler but of course he need to make sure that this game will be pushed through.

[stadus]

The rumors towards their fight with Inoue what makes me follow his channel since I want to get update directly and to see how he can make this huge match became reality and if he cannot successfully arrange a match on Inoue's camp well maybe we can see a less hype for his fight since this is actually what people want to see these days.

I don't trust the information that coming from his mouth, he said before that last 2021 he will fight Inoue but it did not happen, so maybe he is just trying to make some hype, making an announcement even if it's not yet official. Casimero is desperate to have a big fight, hopefully, Inoue accept the challenge in a unification match.

Definitely, nothing is final specially if it's coming from the mouth of the fighter. I remember Ryan Garcia, in his official social media accounts, he give us a hint that he will be fighting Manny Pacquiao next, but it didn't materialized. So same here, we will only know if the fight with Inoue will happen if we see an official announcement from either camps promotional outfit. So we may have to wait a bit further. But definitely, this fight is doable.

Even Inoue actually confirms that he will have a fight with Casimero IIRC, but the same thing, nothing happens as in the end it still defends on the promoter if they are willing to invest in the fight, and knowing the Top Rank CEO, he will not easily risk Inoue's undefeated record on a fighter that has a capability of beating the beast.

The fight with Inoue will only materialize if this fight with Butler will happen first and if Casimero will beat him.
So at the moment, we need to wait for this fight to happen. And if Butler will win, I don't think Inoue's fight will push thru.
People are looking forward for Casimero's next fight because that will possibly determine his next fight.
We can't rely on the wants of the boxers because at the end of the day, it depends on their respective promoters.

Of course, Inoue would not fight Casimero if he can't successfully defend his title, it will be a unification fight once the big fight will happen to benefit Inoue. I am confident that Casimero will win but I'm not confident that Inoue will give him the fight easily, it still defends on Bob.

[crzy]

Of course, Inoue would not fight Casimero if he can't successfully defend his title, it will be a unification fight once the big fight will happen to benefit Inoue. I am confident that Casimero will win but I'm not confident that Inoue will give him the fight easily, it still defends on Bob.

That’s true, winning on this match doesn’t guarantee a way to fight Inoue, this will still depend on the management and if there’s a money here that will in favor to Inoue win or lose so most probably this will not be an easy deal to set up. Maybe Casimero should not think with Inoue for now, better to focus with Butler and just keep working until they reach the level of Inoue.

[Viscore]

Aside from making false news to make some hype, his also making a scene and get the attention of Inoue's camp to fight him but because of that Inoue have lost interest to Casimero and Bob Arum probably have another plan on his mind that's why they aren't talking back at the issue that Casimero made.

Soon, this match will probably happen after Casimero defeats Butler. After then, Inoue and Bob Arum will likely to agree.

So this might be his way to caught up the attention of Inoue's Team, I don't think this kind of moves will work out instead Casimero needs to focus on his fight against Butler and fortunately win the game so that he can have the chance to fight Inoue inside the ring. With all the issues being connected to Casimero I do hope it would not affect his career and his standing as a fighter. I am also rooting for him to win the fight against Butler but of course he need to make sure that this game will be pushed through.

Focus on the fight and try to make some hype to get the attention of the Inoue and the fans can be done at the same time. Casimero is known to be a good fighter, so we can expect that he will train hard to defend his belt, and after that, it will either be Inoue or he will move to a higher weight class.

[Mahanton]

Aside from making false news to make some hype, his also making a scene and get the attention of Inoue's camp to fight him but because of that Inoue have lost interest to Casimero and Bob Arum probably have another plan on his mind that's why they aren't talking back at the issue that Casimero made.

Soon, this match will probably happen after Casimero defeats Butler. After then, Inoue and Bob Arum will likely to agree.

So this might be his way to caught up the attention of Inoue's Team, I don't think this kind of moves will work out instead Casimero needs to focus on his fight against Butler and fortunately win the game so that he can have the chance to fight Inoue inside the ring. With all the issues being connected to Casimero I do hope it would not affect his career and his standing as a fighter. I am also rooting for him to win the fight against Butler but of course he need to make sure that this game will be pushed through.

Focus on the fight and try to make some hype to get the attention of the Inoue and the fans can be done at the same time. Casimero is known to be a good fighter, so we can expect that he will train hard to defend his belt, and after that, it will either be Inoue or he will move to a higher weight class.

Casimero is looking forward on beating up Inoue but Inoue doesnt really have any interest on fighting Casimero but it would still depend or vary if he would changed up his mind and its true that
hyping up everything and winning fights of Casimero might really result on some changing of minds on which this fight could possibly happen.For now Casimero should beat up on anyone
who would be thrown at him.People had been anticipating for it to happen but for the mean time things should be settled first.

[harizen]

Since they don't have a pretty face like Ryan Garcia, their record should be perfect and they need to beat every strong boxer throughout their career if they wanted to be known in the whole world like Manny Pacquiao.

WTF haha. Is this a counter compliment for them?

Seriously, that's always the goal, to continue winning and be consistent with it.

After Manny Pacquiao, we are always hoping that there's always someone who will step up and continue the legacy of the dominance of PH boxers. Hoping for another big title match that involves a PH boxer and the close one for that to happened is Casimero vs Inoue in the future.

[ultrloa]

The rumors towards their fight with Inoue what makes me follow his channel since I want to get update directly and to see how he can make this huge match became reality and if he cannot successfully arrange a match on Inoue's camp well maybe we can see a less hype for his fight since this is actually what people want to see these days.

I don't trust the information that coming from his mouth, he said before that last 2021 he will fight Inoue but it did not happen, so maybe he is just trying to make some hype, making an announcement even if it's not yet official. Casimero is desperate to have a big fight, hopefully, Inoue accept the challenge in a unification match.

Most provably there is a possible match up he heard from his camp at that time and he get a little information about the said date that's why he release that statement before but maybe there's part of negotiation failed that's why we did not see any fight happen between him and Inoue, its all matter on their promoters negotiation. Look what happen now the WBO choose another opponent and seems there is influential person stopping this fight to happen I don't know if this is for the hype or they want to protect their fighter and wait for Casimero to be out of his prime so that his opponent can defeat him.

We don't know the real score and the only thing we can do is to speculate.

[goinmerry]

I don't trust the information that coming from his mouth, he said before that last 2021 he will fight Inoue but it did not happen, so maybe he is just trying to make some hype, making an announcement even if it's not yet official. Casimero is desperate to have a big fight, hopefully, Inoue accept the challenge in a unification match.

That's the problem with him. Announcing something which is not formally organized. He just needs to stay on his trash talk side but don't interfere with the future plans for him. Big promoters can just easily forget him if he continues being like that. Good thing right now that he is now quiet. That prior arrogant talks are now changed.

I just don't know until when as Casimero is not like that.

[agustina2]

We all want him to watch on the ring. For avid fans, watching his vlog will get them some information that would add up to the speculations or if there's anything that he says towards the vlog. But let's forget about the vlog and get it on the match although there's some relation on it as he might be telling what he's up to for this upcoming match while filming it. And at the same time, if his channel is monetized then there's the other reason why he also grinds on documenting his daily life.

A blog is something like a daily hobby. It's good to have that especially if you have a big name since you will have surely lots of followers bit by bit. I don't know how it was started to discuss here but everyone should not think that Casimero is not doing his regular practice as he focuses on his blog. It's not what happening here as Casimero is always serious in training from the start.

Yes, but a little correction - it's vlog. Because blog is about writing while vlog is video content.
Well, it's just said that he's vlogging as it seems that he's got time for it. But people have forgotten that content creators or the vloggers have their own editors and videographers that will do the job for the actual person like Casimero. I'm sure that he's got those people that makes things easily for him and that's why he's kept on uploading.

Sorry and thanks for the clarification. But my message should be clear even with that error.

We just have to move on about that topic since it's not even a thing that can make Casimero distracted from what he is doing right now.

A blog, vlog, or something else, shouldn't be a threat for a boxer to stay on focus.

[carlisle1]

I don't trust the information that coming from his mouth, he said before that last 2021 he will fight Inoue but it did not happen, so maybe he is just trying to make some hype, making an announcement even if it's not yet official. Casimero is desperate to have a big fight, hopefully, Inoue accept the challenge in a unification match.

That's the problem with him. Announcing something which is not formally organized. He just needs to stay on his trash talk side but don't interfere with the future plans for him. Big promoters can just easily forget him if he continues being like that. Good thing right now that he is now quiet. That prior arrogant talks are now changed.

I just don't know until when as Casimero is not like that.

If he keeps doing that, promoters will be more disappointed and probably will not give him the chance. Promoters wanted to have more money

if Casimero will continue to talk about things that are not formally organized, the other side/camp will ask for more, just my opinion, if they are interested

to deal with someone they need to offer more to make the deal be close, that's what promoters are avoiding while still in talk with possible opponent.

[passwordnow]

We all have thought really that it's going to be Inoue and Casimero as it came from him personally and then, here goes the sudden announcement and order from WBO.
It's possible that it's his team that has told him to remain quiet and just focuses on training. And when the match is going to be near like 2 or 1 week before it starts, they'll do the marketing through him and will do the talks. Maybe not actual trash talks but some insults I guess.

I think casimero's approach already changed because from trash talker it seems like he already keep His silence for long now.
though this maybe another strategy and His mouth will start trashing again when the fight is near to happen.
but whatever he does? still the fight will be awaited as this will Lead Casimero to finally fight Inoue in which His dream fight for long now, after His fellow Filipino Boxer Fails winning against this Japanese monster fighter.

Yup, there's the issue that has started and still he's in silence but that's okay. There's a lot of meaning for silence and he really doesn't have to address that.
I think, this makes him better if he just focus on his training and no need for any trash talk or any kind of talk that will hype his match. Butler has to be finished first so he can proceed to his next matchup.

[blockman]

Yes, but a little correction - it's vlog. Because blog is about writing while vlog is video content.
Well, it's just said that he's vlogging as it seems that he's got time for it. But people have forgotten that content creators or the vloggers have their own editors and videographers that will do the job for the actual person like Casimero. I'm sure that he's got those people that makes things easily for him and that's why he's kept on uploading.

Sorry and thanks for the clarification. But my message should be clear even with that error.

We just have to move on about that topic since it's not even a thing that can make Casimero distracted from what he is doing right now.

A blog, vlog, or something else, shouldn't be a threat for a boxer to stay on focus.

We all agree with what you said. It's just like another activity that he can get into while or after training. Someone like Casimero and other professional boxers have a strict to follow schedules especially if they're on the training and they're near to the day of their match.

After Manny Pacquiao, we are always hoping that there's always someone who will step up and continue the legacy of the dominance of PH boxers. Hoping for another big title match that involves a PH boxer and the close one for that to happened is Casimero vs Inoue in the future.

The standard is a bit high with what Manny Pacquiao has achieved but yes, hopefully that we get to see this match after Butler's knockdown.