[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight.

[Russlenat]

Does he really changed up his behavior? Maybe.. its true that i havent recently seeing that he do make out some trashtalks to provoke whether on his upcoming opponent or neither Inoue.

We can assume that he was just told not to do so or might be, he thinks that if only he's not like that, there will be no problem that happened last December where he failed to show up in the weigh-in because of his viral condition.

Anyhow, trash talk or hitting the opponent with some offensive words is not really necessary.

They can do the talking on the ring, not in exchange of words in the public.

Yeah, maybe someone is the background is advising Casimero to tone down a bit because it doesn't make sense at all to trash talk the likes of Inoue and Donaire. The fight will happen sooner or later. And he should learn from his fellow Filipino, the legendary Manny Pacquiao, who chooses to do the talking inside the ring and not being so arrogant outside and talking trash to his opponent.

I think Casimero has been always like that and people do know him that he always talk a lot even it is already nonsense at all. But we don't know about that now because maybe this time he figured out that it's time to wisen up and speak less and let his actions do the talking, or if that's not the case then his team has told him to be quiet for now and concentrate more about the preparations.

[carlisle1]

I think Casimero has been always like that and people do know him that he always talk a lot even it is already nonsense at all. But we don't know about that now because maybe this time he figured out that it's time to wisen up and speak less and let his actions do the talking, or if that's not the case then his team has told him to be quiet for now and concentrate more about the preparations.

Maturing? I hope that's the thing that developing now inside Casimero, the more he keeps his mouth, the more the fans will chase him,

and not only the fans but those critics. It's wise to let this issue to pass and just be focused with his preparation for his upcoming fight, then surprise

with how he will take Butler, hopefully it will be in the next level something that will create a big noise for his name inside this sport.

Let's wait and see if what kind of adjustment Casimero will do for this fight..

[Yaunfitda]

Does he really changed up his behavior? Maybe.. its true that i havent recently seeing that he do make out some trashtalks to provoke whether on his upcoming opponent or neither Inoue.

We can assume that he was just told not to do so or might be, he thinks that if only he's not like that, there will be no problem that happened last December where he failed to show up in the weigh-in because of his viral condition.

Anyhow, trash talk or hitting the opponent with some offensive words is not really necessary.

They can do the talking on the ring, not in exchange of words in the public.

Yeah, maybe someone is the background is advising Casimero to tone down a bit because it doesn't make sense at all to trash talk the likes of Inoue and Donaire. The fight will happen sooner or later. And he should learn from his fellow Filipino, the legendary Manny Pacquiao, who chooses to do the talking inside the ring and not being so arrogant outside and talking trash to his opponent.

I think Casimero has been always like that and people do know him that he always talk a lot even it is already nonsense at all. But we don't know about that now because maybe this time he figured out that it's time to wisen up and speak less and let his actions do the talking, or if that's not the case then his team has told him to be quiet for now and concentrate more about the preparations.

It's not that really effective for him, this kind of trash talking is good for American boxers because that is their native tongue. But if English is not Casimero's first language, every time he opens his mouth, it doesn't sounds right. And that's why he better stop doing it as it is out of context for a Filipino fighter. As you have said, less his boxing skills do the talking.

[Natalim]

Does he really changed up his behavior? Maybe.. its true that i havent recently seeing that he do make out some trashtalks to provoke whether on his upcoming opponent or neither Inoue.

We can assume that he was just told not to do so or might be, he thinks that if only he's not like that, there will be no problem that happened last December where he failed to show up in the weigh-in because of his viral condition.

Anyhow, trash talk or hitting the opponent with some offensive words is not really necessary.

They can do the talking on the ring, not in exchange of words in the public.

Yeah, maybe someone is the background is advising Casimero to tone down a bit because it doesn't make sense at all to trash talk the likes of Inoue and Donaire. The fight will happen sooner or later. And he should learn from his fellow Filipino, the legendary Manny Pacquiao, who chooses to do the talking inside the ring and not being so arrogant outside and talking trash to his opponent.

I think Casimero has been always like that and people do know him that he always talk a lot even it is already nonsense at all. But we don't know about that now because maybe this time he figured out that it's time to wisen up and speak less and let his actions do the talking, or if that's not the case then his team has told him to be quiet for now and concentrate more about the preparations.

It's not that really effective for him, this kind of trash talking is good for American boxers because that is their native tongue. But if English is not Casimero's first language, every time he opens his mouth, it doesn't sounds right. And that's why he better stop doing it as it is out of context for a Filipino fighter. As you have said, less his boxing skills do the talking.

I think he already stopped, I have not heard in his new interviews that he is trash talking a boxer, Rigo was the last time he trash-talked and now he is focused on training to defend his title. But actually, even if he does trash talk again, I will not change my support for him, I still like him inside the ring and that's what matters most for me.

[pinggoki]

What's the status of this fight? Didn't seem to have any news about it so I was checking but it seems that this will just be all talk and no walk. Shouldn't WBO force it now by hook or by crook because they're the one that have started it. I was anticipating this bout and all but now I'm disappointed about this, hope that things will get smoothed out eventually.

[erep]

What's the status of this fight?

I quote from the latest news in February that the match status will be rescheduled to next April 22, we may not get daily news updates about boxers and in mid March it will be a popular topic about boxing matches, I really hope PPV matches will be held without any changes schedule and should not accept the intervention of both boxers as was the case before except for unavoidable circumstances.

[mirakal]

What's the status of this fight? Didn't seem to have any news about it so I was checking but it seems that this will just be all talk and no walk. Shouldn't WBO force it now by hook or by crook because they're the one that have started it. I was anticipating this bout and all but now I'm disappointed about this, hope that things will get smoothed out eventually.

What do you mean? I'm not sure if you follow but this fight has been rescheduled since the last week of January because Casimero was hospitalized in Dubai for viral gastritis just few hours from the weigh-in schedule. Now, the fight have a new schedule and Casimero is set to face Butler in a mandatory defense on April 22, in Liverpool, UK.

Didn't seem to have any news about it so I was checking but it seems that this will just be all talk and no walk.

Don't worry the boxers are just busy taking their time to prepare for the fight. This fight will surely happen on schedule this time.

[izsara]

But on the other hand isn't that Garcia's own wish if I'm not mistaken and indeed in this case it might be a little different because Inoue did this more than once which made some people start to not believe it.
I personally also more believe that this is one they made to push something new. This will inevitably happen but the time is that we are still confused about this.

There is a lot of rumors that a Ryan Garcia VS Naoya Inoue will take place, but it is already in the news that a John Riel Casimero VS Naoya Inoue will also take place, I see there are a lot of boxers that are eyeing the young Naoya Inoue, I don't know why, but there are certain people that keep pushing it Ryan Garcia has 21 Fights and 21 Wins and Naoya Inoue has 22 Fights and 22 Wins, both are undefeated, this is also another exciting fight to watch, but I prefer to see a Casimero VS Inoue fight first.

Isn't Ryan Garcia going to fight Tagoe now and when this happens then indeed to fight Inoue even if it can happen but now it still takes time for that.
On the other hand, I personally see that this is not just age because they are currently still undefeated which makes them always have to be fought in addition to their profits (promoters and gambling houses) this will actually be quite good for the fighters themselves even though the impact is indeed risk of defeat and the opponent is getting stronger.
Well this seems to be the final round depending on whether Inoue will accept or dodge back

I'm curious here too as I don't see any rumors circulating that Naoya Inoue and Ryan Garcia will clash.

It's not with the records but it's a risky move for Inoue to step up on his current weight class then meet Ryan Garcia right away. Not time yet for them to faced each other. Ryan Garcia already used on fighting at LightWeight division and Naoya is just starting yet to feel the LightWeight once he moves up.

I also don't see in a news that there will be Casimero vs Inoue soon. Let's wait for the result of this fight first.

Inoue when he will be faced with Casimero still avoids how he will be faced with Garcia of course Arum will really dislike this lol.
At this time Garcia even though he is young but can be said to be a great boxer killer in my opinion and Inoue is still not the time to fight Garcia.
But I actually really expected Casimero first to appear with Inoue but as you said there is still no clarity about this

[Questat]

But on the other hand isn't that Garcia's own wish if I'm not mistaken and indeed in this case it might be a little different because Inoue did this more than once which made some people start to not believe it.
I personally also more believe that this is one they made to push something new. This will inevitably happen but the time is that we are still confused about this.

There is a lot of rumors that a Ryan Garcia VS Naoya Inoue will take place, but it is already in the news that a John Riel Casimero VS Naoya Inoue will also take place, I see there are a lot of boxers that are eyeing the young Naoya Inoue, I don't know why, but there are certain people that keep pushing it Ryan Garcia has 21 Fights and 21 Wins and Naoya Inoue has 22 Fights and 22 Wins, both are undefeated, this is also another exciting fight to watch, but I prefer to see a Casimero VS Inoue fight first.

Isn't Ryan Garcia going to fight Tagoe now and when this happens then indeed to fight Inoue even if it can happen but now it still takes time for that.
On the other hand, I personally see that this is not just age because they are currently still undefeated which makes them always have to be fought in addition to their profits (promoters and gambling houses) this will actually be quite good for the fighters themselves even though the impact is indeed risk of defeat and the opponent is getting stronger.
Well this seems to be the final round depending on whether Inoue will accept or dodge back

I'm curious here too as I don't see any rumors circulating that Naoya Inoue and Ryan Garcia will clash.

It's not with the records but it's a risky move for Inoue to step up on his current weight class then meet Ryan Garcia right away. Not time yet for them to faced each other. Ryan Garcia already used on fighting at LightWeight division and Naoya is just starting yet to feel the LightWeight once he moves up.

I also don't see in a news that there will be Casimero vs Inoue soon. Let's wait for the result of this fight first.

Inoue when he will be faced with Casimero still avoids how he will be faced with Garcia of course Arum will really dislike this lol.
At this time Garcia even though he is young but can be said to be a great boxer killer in my opinion and Inoue is still not the time to fight Garcia.
But I actually really expected Casimero first to appear with Inoue but as you said there is still no clarity about this

I don't think it would happen soon, Inoue is still enjoying his division and we might see him to have another fight with Donaire for a unification fight rather than with Casimero. If he wins, then maybe he will think of moving on, and it's a risky move but he has the power and speed like Pacman so he can possibly be champion in a higher weight class.

[Maslate]

I don't think it would happen soon, Inoue is still enjoying his division and we might see him to have another fight with Donaire for a unification fight rather than with Casimero.

Not good for his legacy, people will remember that he is dodging Casimero.
Inoue can choose to be an undisputed boxer in his division now and he has to fight Casimero and Donaire and beat them before he will move up.
For me, that's a real warrior and that's what will make boxing more entertaining for the fans.

If he wins, then maybe he will think of moving on, and it's a risky move but he has the power and speed like Pacman so he can possibly be champion in a higher weight class.

That's something he has to prove, Pacman never dodge an opponent, but Inoue seemed to be dodging a fighter.

[chaser15]

I don't think it would happen soon, Inoue is still enjoying his division and we might see him to have another fight with Donaire for a unification fight rather than with Casimero. If he wins, then maybe he will think of moving on, and it's a risky move but he has the power and speed like Pacman so he can possibly be champion in a higher weight class.

The distance between Naoya Inoue and Ryan Garcia does have a long gap.

I don't see them facing each other unless one of them will risk gaining or losing weight to catch up on their required weight class. Let's erase that speculation for now. It's more likely that Inoue will face Donaire. They are both available and no upcoming fight.

I like to see a rematch too before Casimero vs Inoue or before the Japanese monster will go up on another weight class.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I speculate that this very bad incident for Casimero will certainly lower his chance to get a contract to fight Naoye Inoue unless he wins all the other championships in their weight division. It will be very hard to promote and market Inoue vs. Casimero to the public after this alleged sexual misconduct. How many championships does Inoue do not presently hold?

He is not yet guilty, and there's still no warrant the thing is still under investigation, Casimero will need to answer the accusation and if there's probable cause then there will be a case, he can hire a very good lawyer to defend him and since this is not a rape case and bailable he can still fight Inoue, we all know he is still innocent until proven guilty.

This is very right, we cannot judge him, just because there's negative news about him, we easily make a conclusion that he is guilty. you know, Casimero is a celebrity already, he has the money and maybe some sees it as an opportunity to get money from him.

We should need to look at both sides. If there's proof that Casimero is liable in that case, even we idolize him, we should accept the fact that he is not a good example. However, it seems that the case is running slowly. Not saying there is someone controlling it but Casimero's camp can just easily show proof to remove every person's doubt.

A case like this should not be a distraction for him.

I agree with you, also from what is seen in the case I think that this is going much longer in the long term, since he is a person who attracts a lot of attention and the fans do not believe that he is guilty (me neither) being like that, As you say, I would like to see him in action with Inoue, and maybe before this possible fight, if it affects him a little, because even though he is a human being, psychologically he can see himself as singled out by others and can be affected in his fight, I hope not, but it can affect, at least emotionally.

I think that the fight that everyone wants is Casimero vs. Inoue, but we have seen that all this is based on the business model before sport, although Inoue has another commitment, I do not see that perhaps with all the events this will speed up possible meeting, also everything depends on the acceptance that Inoue has, one thing is what we want, and another very different is what they plan for more money.

[acroman08]

I agree with you, also from what is seen in the case I think that this is going much longer in the long term, since he is a person who attracts a lot of attention and the fans do not believe that he is guilty (me neither) being like that, As you say, I would like to see him in action with Inoue, and maybe before this possible fight, if it affects him a little, because even though he is a human being, psychologically he can see himself as singled out by others and can be affected in his fight, I hope not, but it can affect, at least emotionally

I hope not too. I am not trying to discredit the accuser of the sexual assault but it is not the first time an athlete has been accused of sexual misconduct in order to get money from the athlete.

I got curious about the case and looked for an update regarding it but it seems that there hasn't been any update on it yet.

[aioc]

Outside boxing, Casimero is said to be a good person in real life. And you can also see that based on his vlogs. But maybe, as you said, it maybe his strategy to attract interest from the boxing community as he is making name in boxing. Got curious also on him because of the trash talks like the one when he threw some words to Inoue. So yeah, his strategy is working but hopefully, we will see that inside the ring when he fight with Butler.

He's not really that bad he has an alter ego as a boxer he wants challenges and difficulties he is a real journeyman fighting in a place where he is not the favorite and hostile to him just like the one he had in Argentia and he believes that huge fight with Inoue will bring his career to new height and build his legacy, he just doesn't want to be a regular guy and wants to be his own man, he is not Pacquiao he is Casimero.

[Russlenat]

I think Casimero has been always like that and people do know him that he always talk a lot even it is already nonsense at all. But we don't know about that now because maybe this time he figured out that it's time to wisen up and speak less and let his actions do the talking, or if that's not the case then his team has told him to be quiet for now and concentrate more about the preparations.

Maturing? I hope that's the thing that developing now inside Casimero, the more he keeps his mouth, the more the fans will chase him,

and not only the fans but those critics. It's wise to let this issue to pass and just be focused with his preparation for his upcoming fight, then surprise

with how he will take Butler, hopefully it will be in the next level something that will create a big noise for his name inside this sport.

Let's wait and see if what kind of adjustment Casimero will do for this fight..

I sure hope so that he matured even for just a little bit and not that he was told by his team, it would really help him if he process everything in his environment first before he starts to open his mouth so that his critics won't chase him always and make fun of him. Either way, he really needs to be silent these days until the fight happen so that he can focus more on his diet and training.

It would be so epic if he decides to surprise the industry about his changes, let the actions speak for him.

[Rufsilf]

I agree with you, also from what is seen in the case I think that this is going much longer in the long term, since he is a person who attracts a lot of attention and the fans do not believe that he is guilty (me neither) being like that, As you say, I would like to see him in action with Inoue, and maybe before this possible fight, if it affects him a little, because even though he is a human being, psychologically he can see himself as singled out by others and can be affected in his fight, I hope not, but it can affect, at least emotionally

I hope not too. I am not trying to discredit the accuser of the sexual assault but it is not the first time an athlete has been accused of sexual misconduct in order to get money from the athlete.

I got curious about the case and looked for an update regarding it but it seems that there hasn't been any update on it yet.

I think there's nothing to worry about Casimero's case because he is not that concerned and affected too. I bet he was just a victim because he was more famous now and maybe the alleged victim was so updated about his life that's why she has targeted Casimero. But yes, this case will likely be dismissed anyway even if it would take long, and as long as Casimero's team can clear his name.

Same here, I guess the issue isn't that too important than his upcoming fight. Or maybe, the case have been dismissed due to lack of evidence

[Russlenat]

Does he really changed up his behavior? Maybe.. its true that i havent recently seeing that he do make out some trashtalks to provoke whether on his upcoming opponent or neither Inoue.

We can assume that he was just told not to do so or might be, he thinks that if only he's not like that, there will be no problem that happened last December where he failed to show up in the weigh-in because of his viral condition.

Anyhow, trash talk or hitting the opponent with some offensive words is not really necessary.

They can do the talking on the ring, not in exchange of words in the public.

Yeah, maybe someone is the background is advising Casimero to tone down a bit because it doesn't make sense at all to trash talk the likes of Inoue and Donaire. The fight will happen sooner or later. And he should learn from his fellow Filipino, the legendary Manny Pacquiao, who chooses to do the talking inside the ring and not being so arrogant outside and talking trash to his opponent.

I think Casimero has been always like that and people do know him that he always talk a lot even it is already nonsense at all. But we don't know about that now because maybe this time he figured out that it's time to wisen up and speak less and let his actions do the talking, or if that's not the case then his team has told him to be quiet for now and concentrate more about the preparations.

It's not that really effective for him, this kind of trash talking is good for American boxers because that is their native tongue. But if English is not Casimero's first language, every time he opens his mouth, it doesn't sounds right. And that's why he better stop doing it as it is out of context for a Filipino fighter. As you have said, less his boxing skills do the talking.

That is why he needs to wisen-up because lately he was always blabbing his mouth and it is not that effective anymore, Inoue is a Japanese boxer so Japanese is his first language and he won't definitely affected even if Casimero trashtalks him in pure straight english.

If Casimero really wants to be follow Pacman's footsteps or achieve more greater than him then I don't think his mouth can surely help him with that ambition. I mean, look at Pacquiao and Donaire.

[TravelMug]

I agree with you, also from what is seen in the case I think that this is going much longer in the long term, since he is a person who attracts a lot of attention and the fans do not believe that he is guilty (me neither) being like that, As you say, I would like to see him in action with Inoue, and maybe before this possible fight, if it affects him a little, because even though he is a human being, psychologically he can see himself as singled out by others and can be affected in his fight, I hope not, but it can affect, at least emotionally

I hope not too. I am not trying to discredit the accuser of the sexual assault but it is not the first time an athlete has been accused of sexual misconduct in order to get money from the athlete.

I got curious about the case and looked for an update regarding it but it seems that there hasn't been any update on it yet.

I think there's nothing to worry about Casimero's case because he is not that concerned and affected too. I bet he was just a victim because he was more famous now and maybe the alleged victim was so updated about his life that's why she has targeted Casimero. But yes, this case will likely be dismissed anyway even if it would take long, and as long as Casimero's team can clear his name.

Same here, I guess the issue isn't that too important than his upcoming fight. Or maybe, the case have been dismissed due to lack of evidence

Hopefully this is just the case, that he is a victim because he has made a name for himself and the accuser just wanted money in return. But it will take some time before we will hear the final judgement as justice takes too long in the Philippines.

Going back to the fight, everything seems to be back on track now and we just have a couple of weeks. Perhaps in the last 2 weeks, he will travel to UK to get himself acclimatized before the big fight.

[Finestream]

But on the other hand isn't that Garcia's own wish if I'm not mistaken and indeed in this case it might be a little different because Inoue did this more than once which made some people start to not believe it.
I personally also more believe that this is one they made to push something new. This will inevitably happen but the time is that we are still confused about this.

There is a lot of rumors that a Ryan Garcia VS Naoya Inoue will take place, but it is already in the news that a John Riel Casimero VS Naoya Inoue will also take place, I see there are a lot of boxers that are eyeing the young Naoya Inoue, I don't know why, but there are certain people that keep pushing it Ryan Garcia has 21 Fights and 21 Wins and Naoya Inoue has 22 Fights and 22 Wins, both are undefeated, this is also another exciting fight to watch, but I prefer to see a Casimero VS Inoue fight first.

Isn't Ryan Garcia going to fight Tagoe now and when this happens then indeed to fight Inoue even if it can happen but now it still takes time for that.
On the other hand, I personally see that this is not just age because they are currently still undefeated which makes them always have to be fought in addition to their profits (promoters and gambling houses) this will actually be quite good for the fighters themselves even though the impact is indeed risk of defeat and the opponent is getting stronger.
Well this seems to be the final round depending on whether Inoue will accept or dodge back

I'm curious here too as I don't see any rumors circulating that Naoya Inoue and Ryan Garcia will clash.

It's not with the records but it's a risky move for Inoue to step up on his current weight class then meet Ryan Garcia right away. Not time yet for them to faced each other. Ryan Garcia already used on fighting at LightWeight division and Naoya is just starting yet to feel the LightWeight once he moves up.

I also don't see in a news that there will be Casimero vs Inoue soon. Let's wait for the result of this fight first.

Inoue when he will be faced with Casimero still avoids how he will be faced with Garcia of course Arum will really dislike this lol.
At this time Garcia even though he is young but can be said to be a great boxer killer in my opinion and Inoue is still not the time to fight Garcia.
But I actually really expected Casimero first to appear with Inoue but as you said there is still no clarity about this

I don't think it would happen soon, Inoue is still enjoying his division and we might see him to have another fight with Donaire for a unification fight rather than with Casimero. If he wins, then maybe he will think of moving on, and it's a risky move but he has the power and speed like Pacman so he can possibly be champion in a higher weight class.

That might be the case that Inoue will fight Donaire first for a unification fight before Casimero. Aside from that, I also heard that Donaire is also rumored to face Keith Thurman soon this year or next year after he successfully defeat Barrios after a long lay-off since he faced Pacquiao. Nonetheless, we cannot really tell who is going to face who except if it is agreed both camps.
But the very popular rumor is that Casimero will fight against Inoue if ever he can defeat Butler this April.

[Kasabus]

What's the status of this fight?

I quote from the latest news in February that the match status will be rescheduled to next April 22, we may not get daily news updates about boxers and in mid March it will be a popular topic about boxing matches, I really hope PPV matches will be held without any changes schedule and should not accept the intervention of both boxers as was the case before except for unavoidable circumstances.

Yes the fight schedule is still the same and it will happen this April 22 in Liverpool after it was rescheduled last January, correct me if I'm wrong. These coming days and weeks are very crucial to them so it's natural that we won't be getting any news or update about them because they are really busy preparing for this fight. Like Casimero now, we know him for being a talkative boxer but now we can't get any updates about him as they've gone in silence.